Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-11-01 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Montag 31 Oktober 2011, 17:21:23 schrieb Alex Schuster: Michael Mol writes: My point is that the numbers aren't what mattered here. My point is that SAMSUNG sold me a shoddy product, replaced it with another instance of the the same shoddy product, wouldn't replace it again, and never

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-31 Thread Alex Schuster
Michael Mol writes: My point is that the numbers aren't what mattered here. My point is that SAMSUNG sold me a shoddy product, replaced it with another instance of the the same shoddy product, wouldn't replace it again, and never addressed a detailed technical report of a systemic problem in

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-31 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote: Michael Mol writes: My point is that the numbers aren't what mattered here. My point is that SAMSUNG sold me a shoddy product, replaced it with another instance of the the same shoddy product, wouldn't replace it

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-29 Thread daid kahl
Lots of HDD RPMs and company suggestions, but to the point... My two cents are: ESATA. I have multi TB external disks which I have physics data stored on and needs to be analyzed. USB might be as fast (in the best case), but it uses processor overhead. Not that a lot of machines support that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-28 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Florian Philipp wrote: Am 27.10.2011 19:30, schrieb Dale: I just wonder how much data they will be able to pack into a 3.5 drive tho.  Hm.  Surely they will run out of room at some point.  I mean, the heads have got to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-28 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Florian Philipp wrote: Am 27.10.2011 19:30, schrieb Dale: I just wonder how much data they will be able to pack into a 3.5 drive tho. Hm. Surely they will run out of room at some point. I mean, the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-28 Thread Michael Mol
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: I have to say this.  I worked at a computer place in the late 80's.  Back then a 25Mhz CPU was fast as lightening.  Hard drives were maybe 100MBs.  Memory, lucky if you have a 1 or 2Mbs.  Now look where we

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-28 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 6:15 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: Amazon streams now but I haven't tried them yet. (Watch out for 'One Touch' and accidentally spending money...) Amazon streaming works fine in Linux (I've tried it), it just uses the plain old Adobe Flash plug-in.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-28 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Donnerstag 27 Oktober 2011, 16:00:09 schrieb Michael Mol: On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Donnerstag 27 Oktober 2011, 15:17:45 schrieb Michael Mol: On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-28 Thread Michael Mol
(oi, it's getting harder and harder to snip this thing properly) On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Donnerstag 27 Oktober 2011, 16:00:09 schrieb Michael Mol: On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-28 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 7:18 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 6:15 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: Amazon streams now but I haven't tried them yet. (Watch out for 'One Touch' and accidentally spending money...) Amazon streaming works

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-28 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Freitag 28 Oktober 2011, 08:53:40 schrieb Mark Knecht: On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 7:18 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 6:15 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: Amazon streams now but I haven't tried them yet. (Watch out for 'One

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-28 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Freitag 28 Oktober 2011, 11:19:37 schrieb Michael Mol: (oi, it's getting harder and harder to snip this thing properly) On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Donnerstag 27 Oktober 2011, 16:00:09 schrieb Michael Mol: On Thu, Oct

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-28 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Freitag 28 Oktober 2011, 08:53:40 schrieb Mark Knecht: On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 7:18 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 6:15 AM, Mark Knecht

[gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-27 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 10/27/2011 11:15 AM, Dale wrote: Howdy, I'm wanting to get a hard drive that is pretty good size. I'm looking for about 1 to 2TBs or so. Thing is, a lot of them seem to be 5900 or even 5400 rpm drives. I realize that the data on there is packed pretty tight so I want to ask a few people that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-27 Thread Michael Mol
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 6:09 AM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote: Oh, and one other thing; hdparm is only meant to get you the continuous I/O transfer rate.  It's an awful benchmark for anything else, like what happens if a file is fragmented or how fast it can copy/write data spread

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-27 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Donnerstag 27 Oktober 2011, 13:09:17 schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: On 10/27/2011 11:15 AM, Dale wrote: Howdy, I'm wanting to get a hard drive that is pretty good size. I'm looking for about 1 to 2TBs or so. Thing is, a lot of them seem to be 5900 or even 5400 rpm drives. I realize that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-27 Thread Dale
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Donnerstag 27 Oktober 2011, 13:09:17 schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: On 10/27/2011 11:15 AM, Dale wrote: Howdy, I'm wanting to get a hard drive that is pretty good size. I'm looking for about 1 to 2TBs or so. Thing is, a lot of them seem to be 5900 or even 5400 rpm

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-27 Thread Michael Mol
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like some good info.  I just need a GOOD sale and some extra money to spend.  Maybe in a couple weeks or so.  Hopefully. ;-) As for heat in my case, I have a Cooler Master HAF-932 case.  It has those huge 230mm fans.  

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-27 Thread Dale
Michael Mol wrote: On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like some good info. I just need a GOOD sale and some extra money to spend. Maybe in a couple weeks or so. Hopefully. ;-) As for heat in my case, I have a Cooler Master HAF-932 case. It has those

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-27 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 27.10.2011 19:30, schrieb Dale: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Donnerstag 27 Oktober 2011, 13:09:17 schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: On 10/27/2011 11:15 AM, Dale wrote: Howdy, I'm wanting to get a hard drive that is pretty good size. I'm looking for about 1 to 2TBs or so. Thing is, a lot of

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-27 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Donnerstag 27 Oktober 2011, 13:51:47 schrieb Michael Mol: On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like some good info. I just need a GOOD sale and some extra money to spend. Maybe in a couple weeks or so. Hopefully. ;-) As for heat in my case, I have

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-27 Thread Michael Mol
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Donnerstag 27 Oktober 2011, 13:51:47 schrieb Michael Mol: Just don't buy a SAMSUNG drive. I know, I know, everyone has their pet Don't Buy Hard Drives Made By $x experience. Here's mine. I bought a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-27 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Donnerstag 27 Oktober 2011, 15:17:45 schrieb Michael Mol: On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Donnerstag 27 Oktober 2011, 13:51:47 schrieb Michael Mol: Just don't buy a SAMSUNG drive. I know, I know, everyone has their pet Don't

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-27 Thread Michael Mol
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Donnerstag 27 Oktober 2011, 15:17:45 schrieb Michael Mol: On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Donnerstag 27 Oktober 2011, 13:51:47 schrieb Michael

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-27 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: Just don't buy a SAMSUNG drive. I know, I know, everyone has their pet Don't Buy Hard Drives Made By $x experience. On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: I seem to have good luck with WD and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-27 Thread Bill Longman
On 10/27/2011 12:41 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: and I had 5 death stars failing on me. Darth Vader's death star failed, too.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drive RPMs and data speed.

2011-10-27 Thread Dale
Florian Philipp wrote: Am 27.10.2011 19:30, schrieb Dale: I just wonder how much data they will be able to pack into a 3.5 drive tho. Hm. Surely they will run out of room at some point. I mean, the heads have got to have a little room to work with. Dale :-) :-) Well, then this story