Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Keyboard is dead after emerge-update

2016-08-05 Thread R0b0t1
On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 3:56 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 05:37:09 PM R0b0t1 wrote: >> Err, pretend I quoted the person talking about Nvidia drivers not being too >> bugguly. They ok, but people remember the bad times. > > If they don't load properly,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Keyboard is dead after emerge-update

2016-03-25 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 05:37:09 PM R0b0t1 wrote: > Err, pretend I quoted the person talking about Nvidia drivers not being too > bugguly. They ok, but people remember the bad times. If they don't load properly, X will fail to start and I get thrown into a text-console login. No need to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Keyboard is dead after emerge-update

2016-03-23 Thread R0b0t1
Err, pretend I quoted the person talking about Nvidia drivers not being too bugguly. They ok, but people remember the bad times. Also: people use lower resolution than max because most everything doesn't support proper dpi scaling

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Keyboard is dead after emerge-update

2016-03-23 Thread R0b0t1
Slightly buggy. Boot using Intel igpu, use laptop power switching.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Keyboard is dead after emerge-update

2016-03-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 23/03/2016 16:39, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2016-03-23, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> Most users in this day and age would probably reply "why do I need to >> start with different resolutions and colour depth?" > > When using different display hardware: LCD projector,

[gentoo-user] Re: Keyboard is dead after emerge-update

2016-03-23 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2016-03-23, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2016-03-23, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> Most users in this day and age would probably reply "why do I need to >> start with different resolutions and colour depth?" > > When using different display

[gentoo-user] Re: Keyboard is dead after emerge-update

2016-03-23 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2016-03-23, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Most users in this day and age would probably reply "why do I need to > start with different resolutions and colour depth?" When using different display hardware: LCD projector, TV, etc. > It's been many years since I myself

[gentoo-user] Re: Keyboard is dead after emerge-update

2016-03-23 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2016-03-23, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 04:51:52 PM Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2016-03-22, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> > On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 13:42:26 +, Ian Bloss wrote: >> >> Don't know if anyone has mentioned this but you can

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Keyboard is dead after emerge-update

2016-03-23 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 12:57:02 PM Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 23/03/2016 12:53, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 07:46:09AM +0100, J. Roeleveld wrote > > > >> On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 04:51:52 PM Grant Edwards wrote: > >>> You're probably right, the magick sysrq

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Keyboard is dead after emerge-update

2016-03-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 23/03/2016 12:53, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: > On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 07:46:09AM +0100, J. Roeleveld wrote >> On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 04:51:52 PM Grant Edwards wrote: >> >>> You're probably right, the magick sysrq feature pretty much obviates >>> the need to boot to console to protect

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Keyboard is dead after emerge-update

2016-03-23 Thread waltdnes
On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 07:46:09AM +0100, J. Roeleveld wrote > On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 04:51:52 PM Grant Edwards wrote: > > > You're probably right, the magick sysrq feature pretty much obviates > > the need to boot to console to protect against buggy X11 servers. But, > > it's fairly recent

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Keyboard is dead after emerge-update

2016-03-23 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 04:51:52 PM Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2016-03-22, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 13:42:26 +, Ian Bloss wrote: > >> Don't know if anyone has mentioned this but you can always use the > >> magic sysrsc key to get control of input back

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Keyboard is dead after emerge-update

2016-03-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 12:47:39 -0500, Dale wrote: > >> The last time I had X to fail when booting was when I tried hal. > > How could we ever forget... > I doubt I ever will. I have to give the guy behind it credit tho. When > it was pretty clear that it wasn't going as was planned, And no

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Keyboard is dead after emerge-update

2016-03-22 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 19:37:16 -0500, Dale wrote: > >> The last time I had X to fail when booting was when I tried hal. > How could we ever forget... > > I doubt I ever will. I have to give the guy behind it credit tho. When it was pretty clear that it wasn't going as was

[gentoo-user] Re: Keyboard is dead after emerge-update

2016-03-22 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2016-03-22, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 13:42:26 +, Ian Bloss wrote: > >> Don't know if anyone has mentioned this but you can always use the >> magic sysrsc key to get control of input back from X > > Yes, I mentioned Alt-SysReq-R several posts ago.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Keyboard is dead after emerge-update

2016-03-22 Thread Alan Grimes
Grant Edwards wrote: > Except X failing to load and falling back toa console never seems to > the failure mode I'd run into. It's more like X starts up and the > keyboard and mouse don't work, so I've got to go dig out my laptop > (which was hopefully not left at the office) boot it up and then

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Keyboard is dead after emerge-update

2016-03-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 19:37:16 -0500, Dale wrote: > The last time I had X to fail when booting was when I tried hal. How could we ever forget... -- Neil Bothwick What do you call a dead bee? - A was. pgpnjRHG7gpL1.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Keyboard is dead after emerge-update

2016-03-21 Thread J. Roeleveld
On March 22, 2016 1:37:16 AM GMT+01:00, Dale wrote: >Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 00:10:12 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: >> > Anyone who boots directly to X'doze without first going through a > safe console login is a raging mad lunatic who needs

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Keyboard is dead after emerge-update

2016-03-21 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 00:10:12 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > Anyone who boots directly to X'doze without first going through a safe console login is a raging mad lunatic who needs his head examined. >>> After all, it's not as though it falls back to a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Keyboard is dead after emerge-update

2016-03-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 00:10:12 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > >> Anyone who boots directly to X'doze without first going through a > >> safe console login is a raging mad lunatic who needs his head > >> examined. > > > After all, it's not as though it falls back to a console if X fails to >

[gentoo-user] Re: Keyboard is dead after emerge-update

2016-03-21 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2016-03-21, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 10:52:26 -0400, Alan Grimes wrote: > >> Anyone who boots directly to X'doze without first going through a safe >> console login is a raging mad lunatic who needs his head examined. > After all, it's not as though it

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Keyboard is dead after emerge-update

2016-03-21 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Monday, March 21, 2016 12:30:43 PM »Q« wrote: > On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 17:43:38 +0200 > > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Danger, Will Robinson, danger! > > > > The power of the troll is strong with this one. > > Well, Gentoo *is* a bad system once you've set up automatic >

[gentoo-user] Re: Keyboard is dead after emerge-update

2016-03-21 Thread »Q«
On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 17:43:38 +0200 Alan McKinnon wrote: > Danger, Will Robinson, danger! > > The power of the troll is strong with this one. Well, Gentoo *is* a bad system once you've set up automatic footguns aimed at you from every possible angle. The outrage every

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Keyboard is dead after emerge-update

2016-03-21 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Monday, March 21, 2016 03:02:49 PM Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2016-03-21, Alan Grimes wrote: > > Anyone who boots directly to X'doze without first going through a safe > > console login is a raging mad lunatic who needs his head examined. [...] > > A bit hyperbolic

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Keyboard is dead after emerge-update

2016-03-21 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Monday, March 21, 2016 12:43:36 PM Francisco Ares wrote: > 2016-03-21 11:25 GMT-03:00 Nikos Chantziaras : > > On 21/03/16 13:52, Bertram Scharpf wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> since an emerge-update-world on my notebook the keyboard > >> does no longer respond in X. This is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Keyboard is dead after emerge-update

2016-03-21 Thread Francisco Ares
2016-03-21 11:25 GMT-03:00 Nikos Chantziaras : > On 21/03/16 13:52, Bertram Scharpf wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> since an emerge-update-world on my notebook the keyboard >> does no longer respond in X. This is extremely annoying >> because when I have xdm in rc-update, X is started

[gentoo-user] Re: Keyboard is dead after emerge-update

2016-03-21 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2016-03-21, Alan Grimes wrote: > Anyone who boots directly to X'doze without first going through a safe > console login is a raging mad lunatic who needs his head examined. [...] A bit hyperbolic perhaps, but I've always been a firm believer in the "boot to console and

[gentoo-user] Re: Keyboard is dead after emerge-update

2016-03-21 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 21/03/16 13:52, Bertram Scharpf wrote: Hi, since an emerge-update-world on my notebook the keyboard does no longer respond in X. This is extremely annoying because when I have xdm in rc-update, X is started right at boot. I have no chance to get back to the console using Ctrl-Alt-F1, and the