On Samstag 22 Mai 2010, Barry Jibb wrote:
On 22/05/10 21:26, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de
wrote: [snip]
I don't do professional audio. I have a normal PC. And just like I
sometimes use a synth in Windows (I'm just a
On 05/21/2010 10:38 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Freitag 21 Mai 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
You don't mind the lag (there is lag, no way around it, you just don't
mind because you're not using software that needs good latency, like
software synthesizers) but I do. So stop trying to
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote:
[...]
because you're not using software that needs good latency, like software
synthesizers) but I do.
Then you're doing it wrong. If you are doing professional audio (a
little fact, that, by the way, you *NEVER*
On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 1:21 AM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote:
Latency is the delay between giving the order to play a sound and the sound
actually being played. It's usually around 30ms here with ALSA/dmix, and
around 10ms with OSS/vmix. It's not funny trying to play something in
On Samstag 22 Mai 2010, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote:
[...]
because you're not using software that needs good latency, like software
synthesizers) but I do.
Then you're doing it wrong. If you are doing professional
On 05/22/2010 07:59 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 1:21 AM, Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de wrote:
Latency is the delay between giving the order to play a sound and the sound
actually being played. It's usually around 30ms here with ALSA/dmix, and
around 10ms with
On Samstag 22 Mai 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
On 05/22/2010 07:59 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 1:21 AM, Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de
wrote:
Latency is the delay between giving the order to play a sound and the
sound actually being played. It's usually
On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote:
[snip]
I don't do professional audio. I have a normal PC. And just like I
sometimes use a synth in Windows (I'm just a hobbyist), I'd like to do the
same in Linux.
You can; but you have to use special software, because
On 22/05/10 21:26, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de wrote:
[snip]
I don't do professional audio. I have a normal PC. And just like I
sometimes use a synth in Windows (I'm just a hobbyist), I'd like to do the
same in Linux.
On 05/21/2010 02:03 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de wrote:
Because as soon as you disable ALSA dmix and/or Pulse, suddenly you get
acceptable sound latency.
With OSS4, which has in-kernel mixing, it doesn't matter if you enable
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Jonathan
winelauncher.jonat...@googlemail.com wrote:
[snip]
Windows works for many people it does not make it the best OS or the only
one.
In Ubuntu they went from oss to PulseAudio.
I bet that 90% of Ubuntu users do not know that PulseAudio uses Alsa.
What
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 2:02 AM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote:
Then why does dmix lag?
Then why does dmix lag?
I don't know; I don't care. I don't use dmix, I use PulseAudio, and it
takes care of everything in user space and I don't have to worry about
anything.
I've tried it 6
On 05/21/2010 09:26 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 2:02 AM, Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de wrote:
Then why does dmix lag?
Then why does dmix lag?
I don't know; I don't care. I don't use dmix, I use PulseAudio, and it
takes care of everything in user space and I
On Freitag 21 Mai 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
On 05/21/2010 09:26 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 2:02 AM, Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de
wrote:
Then why does dmix lag?
Then why does dmix lag?
I don't know; I don't care. I don't use dmix, I use PulseAudio,
On Wednesday 19 May 2010 23:56:39 walt wrote:
On 05/19/2010 12:59 PM, Fabian Köster wrote:
Hi *,
I am currently trying to use Phonon and PulseAudio and have the following
problem:
When I play some Video with a Non-KDE application like VLC everything is
perfectly directed to the
On 05/20/2010 11:15 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Wednesday 19 May 2010 23:56:39 walt wrote:
On 05/19/2010 12:59 PM, Fabian Köster wrote:
Hi *,
I am currently trying to use Phonon and PulseAudio and have the following
problem:
When I play some Video with a Non-KDE application like VLC
I think pulse is a very long answer to a very short question and so I did
away with it months ago. And I haven't regretted it.
Truly, I think very few people need pulse outside of professionals who work
in film or music. The main reason others have disagreed with my opinion is
because
On Thursday 20 May 2010 10:40:33 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
On 05/20/2010 11:15 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Wednesday 19 May 2010 23:56:39 walt wrote:
[snip]
Well, since I'm first to answer I get to inject my prejudices first :)
I think pulse is a very long answer to a very short
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 6:13 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
[snip]
Like an earlier poster suggested, PulseAudio looks like a hammer in search of
a nail.
I have a bluetooth headset. I set it up with gnome-bluetooth, and with
PulseAudio I can dynamically redirect the output in
On 05/20/2010 08:30 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
Don't
even mention OSS4; the sound architecture goes in user space, not the
kernel.
I don't care where they go (why the hell should I?), for as long as they
work.
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote:
On 05/20/2010 08:30 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
Don't
even mention OSS4; the sound architecture goes in user space, not the
kernel.
I don't care where they go (why the hell should I?), for as long as they
work.
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
[snip
(And doesn't really matters, but I haven't heard that it's possible to
switch audio from internal speakers to bluetooth headset with OSS4, so
as far as I'm concerned, it doesn't work.)
With just a few clicks, I
On 05/20/2010 09:44 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de wrote:
On 05/20/2010 08:30 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
Don't
even mention OSS4; the sound architecture goes in user space, not the
kernel.
I don't care where they go
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote:
[snip]
What doesn't work is PulseAudio, actually. Too many problems with it. Pulse
is simply broken by design; it's too far from the kernel to be any good.
If I may use (most of) your words: Well, it works here. It's
On Thursday 20 May 2010 21:25:36 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
What doesn't work is PulseAudio, actually. Too many problems with it.
Pulse is simply broken by design; it's too far from the kernel to be any
good.
If I may use (most of) your words: Well, it works here. It's been
rock-solid
On 05/20/2010 10:25 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de wrote:
[snip]
What doesn't work is PulseAudio, actually. Too many problems with it. Pulse
is simply broken by design; it's too far from the kernel to be any good.
If I may
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote:
Because as soon as you disable ALSA dmix and/or Pulse, suddenly you get
acceptable sound latency.
With OSS4, which has in-kernel mixing, it doesn't matter if you enable the
mixer or disable it; sound always has
Sorry, but I believe the you are the one being pretentious; how long
has been since you tried PulseAudio? It has come a lng way, and I
haven't seen any real flames against PulseAudio in many months (and
it's enabled in all major distributions). And that is because it's
working (I repeat my
On 05/19/2010 12:59 PM, Fabian Köster wrote:
Hi *,
I am currently trying to use Phonon and PulseAudio and have the following
problem:
When I play some Video with a Non-KDE application like VLC everything is
perfectly directed to the local PulseAudio running on my machine and i have
the
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