Am Tue, 05 Nov 2013 16:44:43 +0200
schrieb Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com:
On 05/11/2013 14:11, Marc Joliet wrote:
Am Tue, 05 Nov 2013 12:14:59 +0200
schrieb Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com:
On 05/11/2013 11:52, Martin Vaeth wrote:
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Marc Joliet mar...@gmx.de wrote:
One of those questions stands out to me right now: the one on understandable
error messages. As some recent posts to this ML demonstrate, it seems to
be one area where portage is visibly falling (staying?) behind right now.
They remind me of the type of error
On 06/11/2013 09:46, Martin Vaeth wrote:
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
You don't have to keep explaining subslots to me
But not every reader knows the details - this is not a private
conversation.
Then please start your own thread on the matter and describe it all in
the OP
On 06/11/2013 14:54, Martin Vaeth wrote:
Marc Joliet mar...@gmx.de wrote:
One of those questions stands out to me right now: the one on understandable
error messages. As some recent posts to this ML demonstrate, it seems to
be one area where portage is visibly falling (staying?) behind right
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
On 06/11/2013 09:46, Martin Vaeth wrote:
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
You don't have to keep explaining subslots to me
But not every reader knows the details - this is not a private
conversation.
Then please [...] describe it
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
On 06/11/2013 14:54, Martin Vaeth wrote:
(I am guessing this only from the outputs which are posted):
When portage detects that it cannot resolve something after
backtracking, it dies.
That by itself is good info.
The conflict that portage
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
You know what? I'm not convinced.
What I'm seeing is a rather large towering edifice of complexity to deal
with a problem that is not the general case.
I find it funny that perhaps you did not realize that you repeated
the main argument *in favour
On Tuesday 05 Nov 2013 10:52:36 Martin Vaeth wrote:
Note, however, in the long run: The process of transforming all
packages to subslot dependencies is not yet complete.
I guess it will take many years until it is: Up to some corner cases
you can check whether the process is complete for your
On 05/11/2013 11:52, Martin Vaeth wrote:
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
You know what? I'm not convinced.
What I'm seeing is a rather large towering edifice of complexity to deal
with a problem that is not the general case.
I find it funny that perhaps you did not realize
Am Tue, 05 Nov 2013 12:14:59 +0200
schrieb Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com:
On 05/11/2013 11:52, Martin Vaeth wrote:
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
You know what? I'm not convinced.
What I'm seeing is a rather large towering edifice of complexity to deal
with a
On 05/11/2013 14:11, Marc Joliet wrote:
Am Tue, 05 Nov 2013 12:14:59 +0200
schrieb Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com:
On 05/11/2013 11:52, Martin Vaeth wrote:
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
You know what? I'm not convinced.
What I'm seeing is a rather large towering
On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 04:44:43PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
I too see your viewpoint, as you see mine. There's nothing wrong with
your logic within the narrow domain of making the code that implements
this specific feature (subslots) work correctly per spec.
Background: I'm a Linux
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
It seems to me that you didn't read the whole post fully, and have
cherry-picked a part that you think bolsters your position.
I do not think that I have a position here.
Subslots solve some problem. If they cause inconveniences
like portage
On 05/11/2013 17:21, Bruce Hill wrote:
That is good practice, to say the least. Wish it would happen in Gentoo. But
then again, may I ask, do you have as many devs and as many pkgs that must
co-exist on so many differently configured machines?
Not even close :-)
What we lack in package
On 05/11/2013 20:06, Martin Vaeth wrote:
I predict once a week fallout from sub-slots induced bugs that was
intended to fix once a year problem.
Let's see: Forgetting to bump a subslot means that the purpose of
subslots for that package fails. A problem, but not worse than
without subslots.
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
You don't have to keep explaining subslots to me
But not every reader knows the details - this is not a private
conversation.
What I have maintained all along is that I don't see the solution as
tested to be production-ready
It has been in ~arch
On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 17:38:00 -0700, walt wrote:
I have no facts to device either way.
snip
but lets the user device when to do them.
Neil, are you using a new auto-complete function of some kind?
Yes, it's called sleep deprivation :(
--
Neil Bothwick
We can't solve problems by
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
No, no problem whatsoever. emerge @preserved -rebuild is my preferred
method, I find it vastly superior to sub-slot operators which
It is neither superior nor inferior.
It is an unrelated mechanism which will have less to do
once subslot
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On 11/03/2013 08:07 PM, Martin Vaeth wrote:
If you want my opinion on subslots: # grep EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS
/etc/portage/make.conf
EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--ignore-built-slot-operator-deps=y
A different user interface would be preferrable: Something
You know what? I'm not convinced.
What I'm seeing is a rather large towering edifice of complexity to deal
with a problem that is not the general case. I'm seeing something that
has all the hallmarks of a solution that whilst likely to be
mathematically correct, is dreamed up by young
hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote:
EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--ignore-built-slot-operator-deps=y
A different user interface would be preferrable [...]
Could you open a bug report for portage and make a properly formulated
proposal about this?
Done. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=490350
On 11/02/2013 02:26 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
I have no facts to device either way.
snip
but lets the user device when to do them.
Neil, are you using a new auto-complete function of some kind?
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