Re: [gentoo-user] Yikes, what have I done 3 1 seconds beeps on boot

2005-12-07 Thread Jerry Turba

Harry Putnam wrote:

I've been tinkering around with installing a new hdd for the last 1/2 
hr or so, suddenly on shutdown I hear 3 beeps come from the computer 
I'm working on.  Attempts to reboot bring 3 1 second beeps now too.


One by one, I've disconnected each drive, beginning with the one I've 
been tinkering with.  There are currently 3 HDD and 2 cdroms in there.


What led to this situation:
I had disconnected both cdroms and connected the new hdd on that 
controller as single master.  Booted up without problems.  The new 
drive appeared in dmesg but fdisk knew nothing about it.


I've been using Lilo lately and I noticed a line in lilo.conf that 
told the kernel some bad info since I had disconnected cdroms and 
installed the new drive: (On the kernel line amongst other things)

   `hdc=ide-scsi'

That was the same device noted in dmesg as belonging to the new drive.
hdc: WDC WD3000JB-00KFA0, ATA DISK drive

I removed that from lilo.conf and reran lilo then shutdown.  As mach 
was shutting down I heard those three beeps.  Now I get the beeps when 
I try to boot and no bootsky.


Its an intel D850MV mobo and on intel pages it tells me 3 beeps mean a 
memory problem.  Just in case, I removed and reseated the memory 
cards, also tried booting with first one then the other mem card (2 
256 cards).  No change in beeps.


I even tried booting without any installed... I'm not sure if that 
would invoke the beeps anyway, but I did hear them.


Its been my experience thru life that usually, in fact nearly always, 
if you have trouble with something after working on it, its very very 
likely to be something you just did or had your hands on.  I'm still 
wanting to believe this is something simple I did with the drive.
However after disconnecting all drives ribbon and power source, I 
still hear the beeps, and don't get past that.


The websites of the bios makers will have the meaning of their beep 
codes. There were only 3 and now 2 bios makers I believe.


I seem to remember vaguely that 3 beeps indicates ram or video card 
problem. Did you check that they are in their slots securely? It is easy 
to slightly dislodge something?


This is only a shot in the dark and hope it helps.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Yikes, what have I done 3 1 seconds beeps on boot

2005-12-07 Thread Billy Holmes

Harry Putnam wrote:
I've been tinkering around with installing a new hdd for the last 1/2 hr 
or so, suddenly on shutdown I hear 3 beeps come from the computer I'm 
working on.  Attempts to reboot bring 3 1 second beeps now too.


I think 3 beeps is either your memory or CPU isn't slotted correctly. I 
can't remember which it is. Try taking out your memory first, and 
re-slotting it. It probably just got bumped when you were putting in 
your new HDD.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Yikes, what have I done 3 1 seconds beeps on boot

2005-12-07 Thread Phil Sexton

Jerry Turba wrote:

I seem to remember vaguely that 3 beeps indicates ram or video card 
problem.


Video card problems is a morse code B, 3 short beeps and a long 
beep on all the boxen I have ever seen.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Yikes, what have I done 3 1 seconds beeps on boot

2005-12-07 Thread Billy Holmes

Harry Putnam wrote:
memory problem.  Just in case, I removed and reseated the memory cards, 
also tried booting with first one then the other mem card (2 256 cards). 
 No change in beeps.


doh. I totally missed that part of your email.

you may need a chip in each slot. I can't remember how your mobo works. 
some like that, some don't care. So, taking out one memory chip might 
not even work.


however, it's possible that you discharged some static electricity and 
popped a memory chip. You really need the ability to put those chips in 
another mobo. At this point, you're going through the process of 
elimination.

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RE: [gentoo-user] Yikes, what have I done 3 1 seconds beeps on boot

2005-12-07 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harry Putnam
 Sent: 07 December 2005 02:33
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: [gentoo-user] Yikes, what have I done 3 1 seconds 
 beeps on boot
 
 
 I've been tinkering around with installing a new hdd for the 
 last 1/2 hr 
 or so, suddenly on shutdown I hear 3 beeps come from the computer I'm 
 working on.  Attempts to reboot bring 3 1 second beeps now too.
 
 One by one, I've disconnected each drive, beginning with the one I've 
 been tinkering with.  There are currently 3 HDD and 2 cdroms in there.
 
 What led to this situation:
 I had disconnected both cdroms and connected the new hdd on that 
 controller as single master.  Booted up without problems.  
 The new drive 
 appeared in dmesg but fdisk knew nothing about it.
 
 I've been using Lilo lately and I noticed a line in lilo.conf 
 that told 
 the kernel some bad info since I had disconnected cdroms and 
 installed 
 the new drive: (On the kernel line amongst other things)
 `hdc=ide-scsi'
 
 That was the same device noted in dmesg as belonging to the new drive.
  hdc: WDC WD3000JB-00KFA0, ATA DISK drive
 
 I removed that from lilo.conf and reran lilo then shutdown.  
 As mach was 
 shutting down I heard those three beeps.  Now I get the beeps 
 when I try 
 to boot and no bootsky.
 
 Its an intel D850MV mobo and on intel pages it tells me 3 
 beeps mean a 
 memory problem.  Just in case, I removed and reseated the 
 memory cards, 
 also tried booting with first one then the other mem card (2 
 256 cards). 
   No change in beeps.
 
 I even tried booting without any installed... I'm not sure if 
 that would 
 invoke the beeps anyway, but I did hear them.
 
 Its been my experience thru life that usually, in fact nearly 
 always, if 
 you have trouble with something after working on it, its very very 
 likely to be something you just did or had your hands on.  I'm still 
 wanting to believe this is something simple I did with the drive.
 However after disconnecting all drives ribbon and power 
 source, I still 
 hear the beeps, and don't get past that.

If the mobo manual says 3 beeps is a memory problem then that's that.
MEMTEST 86 should pick up anything wrong with it.  On the other hand you
may have disturbed any jumpers/ribbons associated with the memory
controller.  In my limited experience, all beeps that I've experienced
were related to either dodgy, or incompatible memory modules.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Yikes, what have I done 3 1 seconds beeps on boot

2005-12-07 Thread Ernie Schroder
On Tuesday 06 December 2005 09:33 pm, a tiny voice compelled Harry Putnam to 
write:
 I've been tinkering around with installing a new hdd for the last 1/2 hr
 or so, suddenly on shutdown I hear 3 beeps come from the computer I'm
 working on.  Attempts to reboot bring 3 1 second beeps now too.


IIRC, 3 long beeps is a keyboard error. Did you remember to plug it in? do you 
have a spare?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Yikes, what have I done 3 1 seconds beeps on boot

2005-12-07 Thread Phil Sexton

Phil Sexton wrote:

Jerry Turba wrote:

I seem to remember vaguely that 3 beeps indicates ram or video card 
problem.




bad grey matter memory
Video card problems is a morse code B, 3 short beeps and a long beep on 
all the boxen I have ever seen.


/bad grey matter memory

That should be one long beep followed by 3 short ones. blush

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RE: [gentoo-user] Yikes, what have I done 3 1 seconds beeps on boot

2005-12-07 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Billy Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 07 December 2005 15:27
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Yikes, what have I done 3 1 
 seconds beeps on boot
 
 
 Harry Putnam wrote:
  memory problem.  Just in case, I removed and reseated the 
 memory cards, 
  also tried booting with first one then the other mem card 
 (2 256 cards). 
   No change in beeps.
 
 doh. I totally missed that part of your email.
 
 you may need a chip in each slot. I can't remember how your 
 mobo works. 
 some like that, some don't care. So, taking out one memory chip might 
 not even work.
 
 however, it's possible that you discharged some static 
 electricity and 
 popped a memory chip. You really need the ability to put 
 those chips in 
 another mobo. At this point, you're going through the process of 
 elimination.

In the absence of another machine (and the risk of causing the same or
worse due to not earthing oneself onto the box frame first) MEMTEST 86
should do the trick of diagnosing the blown memory module.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Yikes, what have I done 3 1 seconds beeps on boot

2005-12-07 Thread Billy Holmes

Michael Kintzios wrote:

In the absence of another machine (and the risk of causing the same or
worse due to not earthing oneself onto the box frame first) MEMTEST 86
should do the trick of diagnosing the blown memory module.


this assumes one can get past POST :)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Yikes, what have I done 3 1 seconds beeps on boot

2005-12-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On 12/7/05, Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tuesday 06 December 2005 09:33 pm, a tiny voice compelled Harry Putnam to
 write:
  I've been tinkering around with installing a new hdd for the last 1/2 hr
  or so, suddenly on shutdown I hear 3 beeps come from the computer I'm
  working on.  Attempts to reboot bring 3 1 second beeps now too.


No need to guess.

1) These codes are on the web. Google post beep codes. Here's a couple:

http://www.pchell.com/hardware/beepcodes.shtml
http://www.computerhope.com/beep.htm

2) They are different from one BIOS manufacturer to another. For
complex codes make sure you know who's BIOS you are using.

3) 3 beeps is usually the keyboard. You probably pulled it a bit from
the socket.

Good luck,
Mark

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[gentoo-user] Yikes, what have I done 3 1 seconds beeps on boot

2005-12-06 Thread Harry Putnam
I've been tinkering around with installing a new hdd for the last 1/2 hr 
or so, suddenly on shutdown I hear 3 beeps come from the computer I'm 
working on.  Attempts to reboot bring 3 1 second beeps now too.


One by one, I've disconnected each drive, beginning with the one I've 
been tinkering with.  There are currently 3 HDD and 2 cdroms in there.


What led to this situation:
I had disconnected both cdroms and connected the new hdd on that 
controller as single master.  Booted up without problems.  The new drive 
appeared in dmesg but fdisk knew nothing about it.


I've been using Lilo lately and I noticed a line in lilo.conf that told 
the kernel some bad info since I had disconnected cdroms and installed 
the new drive: (On the kernel line amongst other things)

   `hdc=ide-scsi'

That was the same device noted in dmesg as belonging to the new drive.
hdc: WDC WD3000JB-00KFA0, ATA DISK drive

I removed that from lilo.conf and reran lilo then shutdown.  As mach was 
shutting down I heard those three beeps.  Now I get the beeps when I try 
to boot and no bootsky.


Its an intel D850MV mobo and on intel pages it tells me 3 beeps mean a 
memory problem.  Just in case, I removed and reseated the memory cards, 
also tried booting with first one then the other mem card (2 256 cards). 
 No change in beeps.


I even tried booting without any installed... I'm not sure if that would 
invoke the beeps anyway, but I did hear them.


Its been my experience thru life that usually, in fact nearly always, if 
you have trouble with something after working on it, its very very 
likely to be something you just did or had your hands on.  I'm still 
wanting to believe this is something simple I did with the drive.
However after disconnecting all drives ribbon and power source, I still 
hear the beeps, and don't get past that.


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