[gentoo-user] big problem, small solution
Hardware problems come up here occasionally experiences deserve swapping. Gentoo involves much exercise of the CPU, sometimes making it sweat a lot. My AMD 2500+ CPU (installed 2003) has been getting hotter the fan slower. Here in the summer heat of S Ontario, where my workroom is = 25 C , it had been running at a steady 64 C for a couple of weeks (was 55 C ). When I tried to emerge GCC 4.1.1 , it reached 75 C the box died; several attempts, the same auto switch-off. No fans to fit at the store all available CPUs are 64-bit nowadays, ie build another machine. So I opened up the box, removed the fan the heat-sink, blew wiped all the dust away, smeared on some silicon heat-conductor carefully kept from the original package 3 years ago, put it back together. Now the fan is running at 4400 RPM (was 4000 ) the CPU is at 51 C , rising only to 58 C while successfully compiling GCC 4.1.1 . Hopefully, I won't need to build a new machine till well into 2007 . -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] big problem, small solution
Philip Webb wrote: Hardware problems come up here occasionally experiences deserve swapping. Gentoo involves much exercise of the CPU, sometimes making it sweat a lot. My AMD 2500+ CPU (installed 2003) has been getting hotter the fan slower. Here in the summer heat of S Ontario, where my workroom is = 25 C , it had been running at a steady 64 C for a couple of weeks (was 55 C ). When I tried to emerge GCC 4.1.1 , it reached 75 C the box died; several attempts, the same auto switch-off. No fans to fit at the store all available CPUs are 64-bit nowadays, ie build another machine. So I opened up the box, removed the fan the heat-sink, blew wiped all the dust away, smeared on some silicon heat-conductor carefully kept from the original package 3 years ago, put it back together. Now the fan is running at 4400 RPM (was 4000 ) the CPU is at 51 C , rising only to 58 C while successfully compiling GCC 4.1.1 . Hopefully, I won't need to build a new machine till well into 2007 . I recently replaced the fans and heat sinks on my dual opterons to bring the temp down, I was also very much trying to bring the nose level down from the fans. I used 2 copper heat fans with heat pipes from thermaltake, and put some 90 mm fans on each cpu/heatsink. I also put a new case around them to improve air flow. You want more air being pulled out of your box then going in. I manually monitor and control the fan speed and with the new setup I have been able to get the processor fans rpms down to 1800-2000, a real help to reduce noise, with the temp averaging about 46c when idle. When I have done something, perhaps emerge some program, whatever, temp goes to about 50-52c. Check the specs on your processor to see what the operating temp range is so you do not burn things up. Hope it helps, Sean -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] big problem, small solution
I have the same kind of problem with my laptop (Athlon mobile 2400+). It's normally working at 43-50 C but after some time it starts reaching 55-60 C without compiling. Once it even shut down after reaching 100 C while compiling. Fortunatelly I blew it's air intakes with oxygen and it is working normally right now. I advise you to clean the intakes two times a year -- it will help your computer live long :) -- Pozdrawiam Janusz YANOUSHek Bossy gg# 791964 tlen [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] big problem, small solution
On 30 June 2006 12:15, Sean wrote: You want more air being pulled out of your box then going in. So you invented a fan that produces air. Great. Get a patent! Uwe -- Mark Twain: I rather decline two drinks than a German adjective. http://www.SysEx.com.na -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] big problem, small solution
On Friday 30 June 2006 13:15, Sean wrote: You want more air being pulled out of your box then going in. Yeah, and when all the air has been pulled out of the box and you've got a vacuum then you'll see the temperature in there rising... ;) -- Bo Andresen pgpjmku9ojU0F.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] big problem, small solution
Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: On Friday 30 June 2006 13:15, Sean wrote: You want more air being pulled out of your box then going in. Yeah, and when all the air has been pulled out of the box and you've got a vacuum then you'll see the temperature in there rising... ;) I guess I should have worded it different to avoid such comments. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] big problem, small solution
On Friday 30 June 2006 14:31, Sean wrote: You want more air being pulled out of your box then going in. I guess I should have worded it different to avoid such comments. I'm sorry but such a statement is just plain incorrect no matter how you word it. But my reply was supposed to be humorous even if it didn't seem that way... -- Bo Andresen pgpWnUzdHo6Uc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] big problem, small solution
Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: On Friday 30 June 2006 14:31, Sean wrote: You want more air being pulled out of your box then going in. I guess I should have worded it different to avoid such comments. I'm sorry but such a statement is just plain incorrect no matter how you word it. But my reply was supposed to be humorous even if it didn't seem that way... ok -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] big problem, small solution
Sean wrote: I recently replaced the fans and heat sinks on my dual opterons to bring the temp down, I was also very much trying to bring the nose level down from the fans. I used 2 copper heat fans with heat pipes from thermaltake, and put some 90 mm fans on each cpu/heatsink. I also put a new case around them to improve air flow. You want more air being pulled out of your box then going in. I manually monitor and control the fan speed and with the new setup I have been able to get the processor fans rpms down to 1800-2000, a real help to reduce noise, with the temp averaging about 46c when idle. When I have done something, perhaps emerge some program, whatever, temp goes to about 50-52c. Check the specs on your processor to see what the operating temp range is so you do not burn things up. Hope it helps, Sean Well, I have a AMD 2500+ and mine doesn't run near that temp. Just plain old air cooling with folding running and I am at 37 and 27. I have a ThermalTake 12 on mine. Why does everybody have these high temps?? Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] big problem, small solution
Dale wrote: with the temp averaging about 46c when idle. When I have done something, perhaps emerge some program, whatever, temp goes to about 50-52c. Well, I have a AMD 2500+ and mine doesn't run near that temp. Just plain old air cooling with folding running and I am at 37 and 27. I have a ThermalTake 12 on mine. Why does everybody have these high temps?? Dale :-) :-) When I checked out the specs for my Opterons the running temp was listed from 40-70, if I recall correctly, so i think I am doing fine now. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] big problem, small solution
On 6/30/06, Philip Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hardware problems come up here occasionally experiences deserve swapping. Gentoo involves much exercise of the CPU, sometimes making it sweat a lot. My AMD 2500+ CPU (installed 2003) has been getting hotter the fan slower. Here in the summer heat of S Ontario, where my workroom is = 25 C , it had been running at a steady 64 C for a couple of weeks (was 55 C ). When I tried to emerge GCC 4.1.1 , it reached 75 C the box died; several attempts, the same auto switch-off. No fans to fit at the store all available CPUs are 64-bit nowadays, ie build another machine. So I opened up the box, removed the fan the heat-sink, blew wiped all the dust away, smeared on some silicon heat-conductor carefully kept from the original package 3 years ago, put it back together. Now the fan is running at 4400 RPM (was 4000 ) the CPU is at 51 C , rising only to 58 C while successfully compiling GCC 4.1.1 . Hopefully, I won't need to build a new machine till well into 2007 . I have a Pentium IV 2.6GHz (HP pavilion notebook), I used to have temp issues, specially compiling, also, the battery was being drained fast. I followed Gentoo guide in acpi and cpufreqd, created some VERY specific rules, and never saw my note get too hot again (73C is the shutdown temp). At high load, it gets to 66C and the cpufreqd daemon puts the CPU at 2.2 or 2.4GHZ, and the temperature gets stable, even with the fans semi-blocked. This also granted more battery lifetime, and now it stays 2 hours wake with no problems (before, iddle, it would last 45 min). -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] big problem, small solution
On 6/30/06, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sean wrote: I recently replaced the fans and heat sinks on my dual opterons to bring the temp down, I was also very much trying to bring the nose level down from the fans. I used 2 copper heat fans with heat pipes from thermaltake, and put some 90 mm fans on each cpu/heatsink. I also put a new case around them to improve air flow. You want more air being pulled out of your box then going in. I manually monitor and control the fan speed and with the new setup I have been able to get the processor fans rpms down to 1800-2000, a real help to reduce noise, with the temp averaging about 46c when idle. When I have done something, perhaps emerge some program, whatever, temp goes to about 50-52c. Check the specs on your processor to see what the operating temp range is so you do not burn things up. Hope it helps, Sean Well, I have a AMD 2500+ and mine doesn't run near that temp. Just plain old air cooling with folding running and I am at 37 and 27. I have a ThermalTake 12 on mine. Why does everybody have these high temps?? Notebooks are usually hotter than desktops, also, when your room temperature is about 30C, you will NEVER get 27C on your processor, and, well, have you consider checking your sensors to see if they're working fine (maybe checking the BIOS hardware monitor, if available), cause I never saw a computer running 100% CPU load that does not rise to 30 or 40C. -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] big problem, small solution
Daniel da Veiga wrote: On 6/30/06, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sean wrote: I recently replaced the fans and heat sinks on my dual opterons to bring the temp down, I was also very much trying to bring the nose level down from the fans. I used 2 copper heat fans with heat pipes from thermaltake, and put some 90 mm fans on each cpu/heatsink. I also put a new case around them to improve air flow. You want more air being pulled out of your box then going in. I manually monitor and control the fan speed and with the new setup I have been able to get the processor fans rpms down to 1800-2000, a real help to reduce noise, with the temp averaging about 46c when idle. When I have done something, perhaps emerge some program, whatever, temp goes to about 50-52c. Check the specs on your processor to see what the operating temp range is so you do not burn things up. Hope it helps, Sean Well, I have a AMD 2500+ and mine doesn't run near that temp. Just plain old air cooling with folding running and I am at 37 and 27. I have a ThermalTake 12 on mine. Why does everybody have these high temps?? Notebooks are usually hotter than desktops, also, when your room temperature is about 30C, you will NEVER get 27C on your processor, and, well, have you consider checking your sensors to see if they're working fine (maybe checking the BIOS hardware monitor, if available), cause I never saw a computer running 100% CPU load that does not rise to 30 or 40C. Yep, it is measuring right. I just have good circulation in my case and a good CPU heatsink. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
