Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-11 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 10 April 2008 13:48:12 Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: On Thursday 10 April 2008, 14:08, Alan McKinnon wrote: In any event, when portage says A blocks B your options and always only: - unmerge B and optionally remerge or upgrade it later - do not use A I have always resolved A blocks

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-11 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 10 April 2008 13:08:14 Alan McKinnon wrote: blocks is 6 letters. A semantically correct phrase is longer and takes up heaps of line length. The emerge dev apparently favours brevity and complete data over absolute descriptive correctness. We're not dealing here with fine details

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-11 Thread Graham Murray
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Because of the nature of a block, only one of the named packages can be installed, so just unmerge that one, wherever it appears in the block message :) Is that always true? I seem to remember seeing cases where an upgrade of X wanted to install A and

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:15:20 +0100, Graham Murray wrote: Because of the nature of a block, only one of the named packages can be installed, so just unmerge that one, wherever it appears in the block message :) Is that always true? Everything is always true, except for generalisations

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-11 Thread Qi Baobin
I think it's bidirections. Becourse I got 'A blocks B' one, when both of them weren't installed.(I was installing C,and I don't know why C depends on both A and B). On 14:55 Thu 10 Apr , Uwe Thiem wrote: On Thursday 10 April 2008, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: On Thursday 10 April 2008, 14:08,

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-10 Thread tecnic5
On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 19:51 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: On Wednesday 09 April 2008, Dale wrote: Uwe Thiem wrote: Hi folks, emerge --update world tells me: [blocks B ] dev-util/gtk-doc-am (is blocking dev-util/gtk-doc-1.8-r2) emerge --unmerge gtk-doc-am tells me: ---

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-10 Thread Uwe Thiem
On Thursday 10 April 2008, Iain Buchanan wrote: I think it just means gtk-doc-am wants a newer gtk-doc, so it's blocking the one you have installed. You need to uninstall gtk-doc, and then you can install a newer gtk-doc and gtk-doc-am. It works. Thanks! But I don't understand why. Emerge

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 09 April 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote: Hi folks, emerge --update world tells me: [blocks B ] dev-util/gtk-doc-am (is blocking dev-util/gtk-doc-1.8-r2) emerge --unmerge gtk-doc-am tells me: --- Couldn't find 'gtk-doc-am' to unmerge. So let's be more specific: emerge --unmerge

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-10 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Thu, 2008-04-10 at 09:11 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: On Thursday 10 April 2008, Iain Buchanan wrote: I think it just means gtk-doc-am wants a newer gtk-doc, so it's blocking the one you have installed. You need to uninstall gtk-doc, and then you can install a newer gtk-doc and gtk-doc-am.

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-10 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wednesday 09 April 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote: Hi folks, emerge --update world tells me: [blocks B ] dev-util/gtk-doc-am (is blocking dev-util/gtk-doc-1.8-r2) emerge --unmerge gtk-doc-am tells me: --- Couldn't find 'gtk-doc-am' to unmerge. So let's be more specific:

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-10 Thread Uwe Thiem
On Thursday 10 April 2008, Iain Buchanan wrote: gtk-doc-am _does_ block gtk-doc. Since you already have gtk-doc installed, gtk-doc-am couldn't go ahead. Often with a blocker, you don't have the blockee already installed. ie. blocker-pkg blocks blockee-pkg, and both are required by other

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 10 April 2008, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wednesday 09 April 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote: Hi folks, emerge --update world tells me: [blocks B ] dev-util/gtk-doc-am (is blocking dev-util/gtk-doc-1.8-r2) emerge --unmerge gtk-doc-am tells me: --- Couldn't find

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-10 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Thursday 10 April 2008, 09:57, Uwe Thiem wrote: Often with a blocker, you don't have the blockee already installed. ie. blocker-pkg blocks blockee-pkg, and both are required by other ebuilds... I must be extraordinarily dense these days. I don't get it. How can a non-installed

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-10 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 10 April 2008 08:30:21 Iain Buchanan wrote: On Thu, 2008-04-10 at 09:11 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: Emerge clearly said that gtk-doc-am blocked gtk-doc, not the other way round. gtk-doc-am _does_ block gtk-doc. Since you already have gtk-doc installed, gtk-doc-am couldn't go

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 10 April 2008, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Thursday 10 April 2008 08:30:21 Iain Buchanan wrote: On Thu, 2008-04-10 at 09:11 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: Emerge clearly said that gtk-doc-am blocked gtk-doc, not the other way round. gtk-doc-am _does_ block gtk-doc. Since you

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-10 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 10 April 2008, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wednesday 09 April 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote: Hi folks, emerge --update world tells me: [blocks B ] dev-util/gtk-doc-am (is blocking dev-util/gtk-doc-1.8-r2) emerge --unmerge gtk-doc-am tells

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-10 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Thursday 10 April 2008, 12:56, Alan McKinnon wrote: This is not sensible. If Uwe says A blocks B, it means that A is getting in the way of B, not the other way around. No, that's incorrect. I think you are attaching an incorrect meaning to the output wording. In this case, A's ebuild

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 10 April 2008, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: If the word in emerge output was block, meaning generically there is a block, an incompatibility you would be correct. But that word is blocks, 3rd person singular, implying a subject and an object, ie something blocks something else. Or, at

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 10 April 2008, Dale wrote: It appears this human is a bit dense.  I !think! I get it but not real sure.  May have to read that a few more times.  Sounds like the clue is the missing U and D part. man emerge, the --pretend option has some useful info. I usually find that I need to

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-10 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Thursday 10 April 2008, 14:08, Alan McKinnon wrote: In any event, when portage says A blocks B your options and always only: - unmerge B and optionally remerge or upgrade it later - do not use A I have always resolved A blocks B problems by unmerging A. After that, portage was not

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-10 Thread Uwe Thiem
On Thursday 10 April 2008, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: On Thursday 10 April 2008, 14:08, Alan McKinnon wrote: In any event, when portage says A blocks B your options and always only: - unmerge B and optionally remerge or upgrade it later - do not use A I have always resolved A blocks B

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:10:32 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: I usually find that I need to look in the ebuilds anyway to see what is going on and get enough info to make a decision, at which point I'm not looking at emerge's output anymore :-) Because of the nature of a block, only one of the

[gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-09 Thread Uwe Thiem
Hi folks, emerge --update world tells me: [blocks B ] dev-util/gtk-doc-am (is blocking dev-util/gtk-doc-1.8-r2) emerge --unmerge gtk-doc-am tells me: --- Couldn't find 'gtk-doc-am' to unmerge. So let's be more specific: emerge --unmerge =dev-util/gtk-doc-am-1.10 tells me: --- Couldn't find

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-09 Thread Dale
Uwe Thiem wrote: Hi folks, emerge --update world tells me: [blocks B ] dev-util/gtk-doc-am (is blocking dev-util/gtk-doc-1.8-r2) emerge --unmerge gtk-doc-am tells me: --- Couldn't find 'gtk-doc-am' to unmerge. So let's be more specific: emerge --unmerge =dev-util/gtk-doc-am-1.10 tells

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-09 Thread Uwe Thiem
On Wednesday 09 April 2008, Dale wrote: Uwe Thiem wrote: Hi folks, emerge --update world tells me: [blocks B ] dev-util/gtk-doc-am (is blocking dev-util/gtk-doc-1.8-r2) emerge --unmerge gtk-doc-am tells me: --- Couldn't find 'gtk-doc-am' to unmerge. So let's be more

Re: [gentoo-user] blocking package can't be found

2008-04-09 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 19:51 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: On Wednesday 09 April 2008, Dale wrote: Uwe Thiem wrote: Hi folks, emerge --update world tells me: [blocks B ] dev-util/gtk-doc-am (is blocking dev-util/gtk-doc-1.8-r2) emerge --unmerge gtk-doc-am tells me: ---