Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-27 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 10:39:55 +0100 Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: Incidentally, I almost always install software with --oneshot. That way the programs I install to try out show up on --depclean's output until I decide I want to keep them. It prevents accumulating cruft from various

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:29:01 +0600, Mike Kazantsev wrote: Incidentally, I almost always install software with --oneshot. That way the programs I install to try out show up on --depclean's output until I decide I want to keep them. It prevents accumulating cruft from various experiments,

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-27 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 23:28:26 +0100 Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: Nothing as clever as that. I simply echo cat/pkg /etc/portage/sets/temp and have @temp in /var/lib/portage/world_sets Each week I look at the set and decide what should be removed or transferred to world. That

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-26 Thread Philip Webb
090425 fe...@crowfix.com wrote: My world file is 5794 lines long. Well, it's true there are 13 465 pkgs in Gentoo (as of yesterday), but I have only 538 installed only 65 in 'world'. Yes, I use '-1' frequently ... (grin) --

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 20:39:52 -0700, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: I am probably in that very situation. My world file is 5794 lines long. I didn't know about -1 and frankly don't understand it. If I remerge a package which is not in world, why is it added to world? I had seen a few vague

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 26 April 2009 05:39:52 fe...@crowfix.com wrote: On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 08:27:08PM -0500, Dale wrote: And from experience, I can tell you it happens when you don't use that -1 option when you should. You can end up with a HUGE world file when not using that opton to just rebuild

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-26 Thread John covici
on Saturday 04/25/2009 Alan McKinnon(alan.mckin...@gmail.com) wrote On Saturday 25 April 2009 20:52:28 Michael P. Soulier wrote: On 25/04/09 Michael P. Soulier said: app-text/poppler-bindings and app-text/poppler aren't needed by anything right now. So, I just unmerged them and

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 26 April 2009 08:40:39 John covici wrote: OK, so this brings up the question, how do I make sure (if there is a way to do so) that my world file does not contain anything which it should not -- I am sure I have made the mistake of forgetting to put the -1, so it would be interesting

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-26 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: It should be easy enough to write a program that examines world and displays all packages it finds that are dependencies of something else in world, but I haven't found one, and prefer the manual approach above. I know you can use eix-test-obsolete to find

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-26 Thread Sebastian Günther
* Alan McKinnon (alan.mckin...@gmail.com) [26.04.09 18:49]: It should be easy enough to write a program that examines world and displays all packages it finds that are dependencies of something else in world, but I haven't found one, and prefer the manual approach above. #!/bin/bash for

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-26 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
Sebastian Günther schrieb am 26.04.2009 19:55: * Alan McKinnon (alan.mckin...@gmail.com) [26.04.09 18:49]: It should be easy enough to write a program that examines world and displays all packages it finds that are dependencies of something else in world, but I haven't found one, and

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-26 Thread Graham Murray
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com writes: I know you can use eix-test-obsolete to find outdated/unneeded thing in /etc/portage but I wish it would also do something similiar for the world file. I just wonder if the person that wrote eix and friends could add that in as a feature? It would be neat.

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-26 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: It should be easy enough to write a program that examines world and displays all packages it finds that are dependencies of something else in world, but I haven't found one, and prefer the manual approach

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-26 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: It should be easy enough to write a program that examines world and displays all packages it finds that are dependencies of something else in world, but I haven't found one,

[gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-25 Thread Michael P. Soulier
I'm trying to understand the explanation of this but I don't quite see it. It looks like conflicting libraries used by gimp, inkscape and openoffice. I don't quite understand the explanation, and what my options are. Translation appreciated. Thanks, Mike msoul...@anton:~$ emerge --pretend

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-25 Thread Justin
Michael P. Soulier wrote: I'm trying to understand the explanation of this but I don't quite see it. It looks like conflicting libraries used by gimp, inkscape and openoffice. I don't quite understand the explanation, and what my options are. Translation appreciated. Thanks, Mike

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 16:32:30 +0200, Justin wrote: ('ebuild', '/', 'app-text/poppler-bindings-0.10.5-r1', 'merge') pulled in by app-text/poppler-bindings required by world Explanation: New USE for 'app-text/poppler-bindings:0' are incorrectly set. In order to solve

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-25 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 17:48:51 +0100 Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: And remove poppler-bindings from world. And note that =sys-apps/portage-2.2 will resolve that automagically - without user (your) intervention. -- Mike Kazantsev // fraggod.net signature.asc Description: PGP

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-25 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 26/04/09 Mike Kazantsev said: And note that =sys-apps/portage-2.2 will resolve that automagically - without user (your) intervention. sys-apps/portage-2.1.6.7 Will that go stable soon? Mike -- Michael P. Soulier msoul...@digitaltorque.ca Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-25 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 25/04/09 Justin said: It tells you what todo: emerge app-text/poppler-bindings-0.10.4 with USE=gtk cairo check that if it solves the problem msoul...@anton:~$ USE=gtk cairo sudo emerge --pretend app-text/poppler-bindings These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-25 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 25/04/09 Neil Bothwick said: And remove poppler-bindings from world. Ok, and will prevent it from being considered during my next world update, as I understand it. Can you explain why that's a good thing? Thanks, Mike -- Michael P. Soulier msoul...@digitaltorque.ca Any intelligent fool can

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 25 April 2009 20:17:52 Michael P. Soulier wrote: On 25/04/09 Neil Bothwick said: And remove poppler-bindings from world. Ok, and will prevent it from being considered during my next world update, as I understand it. Can you explain why that's a good thing? No, it just takes it

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-25 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 25/04/09 Justin said: It tells you what todo: emerge app-text/poppler-bindings-0.10.4 with USE=gtk cairo check that if it solves the problem Ok, I rebuilt app-text/poppler-bindings with USE=gtk cairo, and I removed app-text/poppler-bindings from world. Now I get this

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-25 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 25/04/09 Michael P. Soulier said: So, luatex and xpdf require poppler 0.10.4, but app-text/poppler-0.10.5-r1 is already installed. I guess xpdf and luatex can't handle the newer poppler version for some reason? It's actually trying to downgrade poppler and poppler-bindings for some reason.

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-25 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 25/04/09 Michael P. Soulier said: app-text/poppler-bindings and app-text/poppler aren't needed by anything right now. So, I just unmerged them and now my upgrade path looks good. I'm not sure what pulled in those newer versions previously. Mike -- Michael P. Soulier

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 25 April 2009 20:52:28 Michael P. Soulier wrote: On 25/04/09 Michael P. Soulier said: app-text/poppler-bindings and app-text/poppler aren't needed by anything right now. So, I just unmerged them and now my upgrade path looks good. I'm not sure what pulled in those newer

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-25 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 14:14:23 -0400 Michael P. Soulier msoul...@digitaltorque.ca wrote: On 26/04/09 Mike Kazantsev said: And note that =sys-apps/portage-2.2 will resolve that automagically - without user (your) intervention. sys-apps/portage-2.1.6.7 Will that go stable soon? I've yet

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-25 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: Incidentally, poppler has a long and fine history of insanely breaking users' configs every time its developers sneeze. The number of times I've had poppler show up in revdep-rebuild output defies any kind of sane, logical, rational description. Not even Microsoft

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 14:52:28 -0400, Michael P. Soulier wrote: I'm not sure what pulled in those newer versions previously. You had both poppler and poppler-bindings in world. What you saw was one of the effects of a world file polluted by packages that should only ever be installed as

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-25 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 14:52:28 -0400, Michael P. Soulier wrote: I'm not sure what pulled in those newer versions previously. You had both poppler and poppler-bindings in world. What you saw was one of the effects of a world file polluted by packages that should

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-25 Thread felix
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 08:27:08PM -0500, Dale wrote: And from experience, I can tell you it happens when you don't use that -1 option when you should. You can end up with a HUGE world file when not using that opton to just rebuild something for some reason or other. I am probably in that

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in update

2009-04-25 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 20:39:52 -0700 fe...@crowfix.com wrote: I am probably in that very situation. My world file is 5794 lines long. I didn't know about -1 and frankly don't understand it. If I remerge a package which is not in world, why is it added to world? I had seen a few vague