[gentoo-user] equery versus q-tools

2009-11-20 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi,

there are two utilities on (my) Gentoo system and I wonder
when to prefer which one.

On one hand there is 'equery' with many commands.
On the other hand there the 'q-tools' i.e. a lot of
symlinks to /usr/bin/q
like
qfile
qdepends
quse
and so on.

Often they offer similar tasks.
I wonder when to use which one.
Which is faster, more reliable, ...

Many thanks for sharing your experience,
Helmut.

-- 
Helmut Jarausch

Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany



Re: [gentoo-user] equery versus q-tools

2009-11-20 Thread Marcus Wanner

On 11/20/2009 4:00 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote:

Hi,

there are two utilities on (my) Gentoo system and I wonder
when to prefer which one.

On one hand there is 'equery' with many commands.
On the other hand there the 'q-tools' i.e. a lot of
symlinks to /usr/bin/q
like
qfile
qdepends
quse
and so on.

Often they offer similar tasks.
I wonder when to use which one.
Which is faster, more reliable, ...

Many thanks for sharing your experience,
Helmut.
  
I would personally prefer equery, as it is in gentoolkit, an official 
gentoo project, and because is more standard. To tell the truth, though, 
I have never even heard of q-tools...


Marcus



Re: [gentoo-user] equery versus q-tools

2009-11-20 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 20 Nov, Marcus Wanner wrote:
 On 11/20/2009 4:00 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
 Hi,

 there are two utilities on (my) Gentoo system and I wonder
 when to prefer which one.

 On one hand there is 'equery' with many commands.
 On the other hand there the 'q-tools' i.e. a lot of
 symlinks to /usr/bin/q
 like
 qfile
 qdepends
 quse
 and so on.

 Often they offer similar tasks.
 I wonder when to use which one.
 Which is faster, more reliable, ...

 Many thanks for sharing your experience,
 Helmut.
   
 I would personally prefer equery, as it is in gentoolkit, an official 
 gentoo project, and because is more standard. To tell the truth, though, 
 I have never even heard of q-tools...
 

No wonder, it's just my personal nickname for it.
The official name is
app-portage/portage-util

Helmut.

-- 
Helmut Jarausch

Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany



Re: [gentoo-user] equery versus q-tools

2009-11-20 Thread Marcus Wanner

On 11/20/2009 11:56 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote:

On 20 Nov, Marcus Wanner wrote:
  

On 11/20/2009 4:00 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote:


Hi,

there are two utilities on (my) Gentoo system and I wonder
when to prefer which one.

On one hand there is 'equery' with many commands.
On the other hand there the 'q-tools' i.e. a lot of
symlinks to /usr/bin/q
like
qfile
qdepends
quse
and so on.

Often they offer similar tasks.
I wonder when to use which one.
Which is faster, more reliable, ...

Many thanks for sharing your experience,
Helmut.
  
  
I would personally prefer equery, as it is in gentoolkit, an official 
gentoo project, and because is more standard. To tell the truth, though, 
I have never even heard of q-tools...





No wonder, it's just my personal nickname for it.
The official name is
app-portage/portage-util

Helmut.

  
Ah. Then I can't really give you any recommendation besides the fact 
that gentoolkit seems to be what most people use, and there is certainly 
something to be said for using the most popular programs since there 
will be faster support and bugfixes. Or course, that is a valid decision 
criteria only when there is no other reason to choose a specific option 
(there would be no such thing as the linux or even gentoo user base 
otherwise).


Marcus



Re: [gentoo-user] equery versus q-tools

2009-11-20 Thread Dale

Marcus Wanner wrote:

On 11/20/2009 4:00 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote:

Hi,

there are two utilities on (my) Gentoo system and I wonder
when to prefer which one.

On one hand there is 'equery' with many commands.
On the other hand there the 'q-tools' i.e. a lot of
symlinks to /usr/bin/q
like
qfile
qdepends
quse
and so on.

Often they offer similar tasks.
I wonder when to use which one.
Which is faster, more reliable, ...

Many thanks for sharing your experience,
Helmut.
  
I would personally prefer equery, as it is in gentoolkit, an official 
gentoo project, and because is more standard. To tell the truth, 
though, I have never even heard of q-tools...


Marcus




But as I have seen and read about, equery is not always correct.  It is 
handy but you need to take its results with a little salt. 


That said, I use it a lot.  just have to use the old noodle still.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] equery versus q-tools

2009-11-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:23:03 -0500, Marcus Wanner wrote:

 Ah. Then I can't really give you any recommendation besides the fact 
 that gentoolkit seems to be what most people use, and there is
 certainly something to be said for using the most popular programs
 since there will be faster support and bugfixes.

Like Windows?

equery is known to give incorrect results, and has done for years.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

I don't know if I can assimilate one more Borg Tagline!


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Re: [gentoo-user] equery versus q-tools

2009-11-20 Thread Marcus Wanner

On 11/20/2009 5:16 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:23:03 -0500, Marcus Wanner wrote:

  
Ah. Then I can't really give you any recommendation besides the fact 
that gentoolkit seems to be what most people use, and there is

certainly something to be said for using the most popular programs
since there will be faster support and bugfixes.



Like Windows?
  

I did say (right after the snip) that:
Or course, that is a valid decision criteria only when there is no 
other reason to choose a specific option (there would be no such thing 
as the linux or even gentoo user base otherwise).

What I meant by that was, quite frankly, that Windows sucks.

Marcus