Re: [gentoo-user] from 2005.0 to 2005.1
On Wed, 2005-08-10 at 13:54 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
On 8/10/05, Craig Zeigler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If the developers bothered to write stuff like that for every package
(most of them have changelogs BTW) Gentoo would be like Debian.. years
between releases
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Yeah, true. Besides, when Neil made that comment he was speaking of
the iso which is the 'installation disc' so I think that Neil was
completely consistant.
Running diff -upr --ignore-matching-lines='^# \
$Header:' /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.{0,1} it looks
like the differences between 2005.0 and 2005.1 are:
1. The default virtuals for os-headers and linux-sources have been
removed (possibly preparatory to merging headers and sources?)
2. The minimum baselayout version is 1.11.12-r4, up from 1.9.4-r3
3. The minimum binutils version is 2.15.90.0.3-r4, up from
2.14.90.0.8-r1
Of course, other architectures may have more significant changes...
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[gentoo-user] from 2005.0 to 2005.1
it is necessary to make any changes to get the packages from version 2005.1 while using 2005.0. I read somewhere that we should change the symlink /etc/make.profile to the new 2005.1 profile and resync, I dided and after sync there where no updates for my system. Is this right ? Thank you, Allan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] from 2005.0 to 2005.1
On Wed, 10 Aug 2005, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote: it is necessary to make any changes to get the packages from version 2005.1 while using 2005.0. I read somewhere that we should change the symlink /etc/make.profile to the new 2005.1 profile and resync, I dided and after sync there where no updates for my system. Is this right ? If you've been keeping your system up-to-date then that's right. -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] from 2005.0 to 2005.1
Allan Spagnol Comar schreef: it is necessary to make any changes to get the packages from version 2005.1 while using 2005.0. I read somewhere that we should change the symlink /etc/make.profile to the new 2005.1 profile and resync, I dided and after sync there where no updates for my system. Is this right ? Probably, assuming that you normally keep your packages up to date. Profiles mean nothing-- insofar as portage doesn't divide packages based on profile. In other words, it's not as if baselayout 1.11.13 is only available to the 2005.1 profile, while the 2005.0 profile can only have 1.9.4-r6 or something. Portage does sometimes disable or enable certain USE flags based on profile, but this is unlikely to be a big issue unless you're changing to a completely different profile (i.e., from default x86 to selinux or something). And in any case, the profile is regularly incrementally updated, most likely to reflect critical updates (ever notice that Performing Global Updates that Portage sometimes delays your emerge with?). The profile is really only an issue on initial install. After that, it's fairly irrelevant to daily life (until Portage flatly says to upgrade it as the old profiles are unsupported-- most likely meaning that they will not be updated to reflect things we know now that we didn't know when we designed the old profile). But otherwise, I'm sure there's still a couple of people around here with the 1.4 profile, and definitely some with a 2004 profile-- because the profile name is not particularly important once Gentoo is actually up and running. So it's not that you got bad advice, but I would say that we *should* change the profile symlink is probably too strong a term, as far as advice goes. If you really, really have to change the profile, Portage will tell you to do so; otherwise it's just cosmetic. As far as I know :-) . Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] from 2005.0 to 2005.1
-Original Message- From: A. Khattri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 August 2005 15:04 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] from 2005.0 to 2005.1 On Wed, 10 Aug 2005, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote: it is necessary to make any changes to get the packages from version 2005.1 while using 2005.0. I read somewhere that we should change the symlink /etc/make.profile to the new 2005.1 profile and resync, I dided and after sync there where no updates for my system. Is this right ? If you've been keeping your system up-to-date then that's right. Because the 2005.0/1 refers to profile defaults, not package versions. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] from 2005.0 to 2005.1
Holly Bostick wrote: Allan Spagnol Comar schreef: it is necessary to make any changes to get the packages from version 2005.1 while using 2005.0. I read somewhere that we should change the symlink /etc/make.profile to the new 2005.1 profile and resync, I dided and after sync there where no updates for my system. Is this right ? Probably, assuming that you normally keep your packages up to date. Profiles mean nothing-- insofar as portage doesn't divide packages based on profile. In other words, it's not as if baselayout 1.11.13 is only available to the 2005.1 profile, while the 2005.0 profile can only have 1.9.4-r6 or something. Portage does sometimes disable or enable certain USE flags based on profile, but this is unlikely to be a big issue unless you're changing to a completely different profile (i.e., from default x86 to selinux or something). And in any case, the profile is regularly incrementally updated, most likely to reflect critical updates (ever notice that Performing Global Updates that Portage sometimes delays your emerge with?). The profile is really only an issue on initial install. After that, it's fairly irrelevant to daily life (until Portage flatly says to upgrade it as the old profiles are unsupported-- most likely meaning that they will not be updated to reflect things we know now that we didn't know when we designed the old profile). But otherwise, I'm sure there's still a couple of people around here with the 1.4 profile, and definitely some with a 2004 profile-- because the profile name is not particularly important once Gentoo is actually up and running. So it's not that you got bad advice, but I would say that we *should* change the profile symlink is probably too strong a term, as far as advice goes. If you really, really have to change the profile, Portage will tell you to do so; otherwise it's just cosmetic. As far as I know :-) . Holly Just to add, /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.1/packages vs /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.0/packages it is not that different anyway. Not that's that any indication of anything. I wish there were Release Notes supplied with the announcement of the new release to satisfy curiosity of what is new/different in this release. Eugene. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] from 2005.0 to 2005.1
Eugene Rosenzweig wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 00:47:13 +1000, Eugene Rosenzweig wrote: I wish there were Release Notes supplied with the announcement of the new release to satisfy curiosity of what is new/different in this release. Gentoo doesn't really have releases, except for the installation discs, so this would be meaningless. Except when a profile is deprecated, and 1.4 was the last to do that, your system is whatever was in portage the last time you synced and updated. From the website: The Gentoo Foundation is both pleased and proud to announce the much anticipated release of *Gentoo Linux 2005.1* (Codename: 'El Nino'). The iso images for the release can be found by visiting the Get Gentoo! http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/where.xml page. Fooled me with the word 'release' in that sentence. Its even got a codename. You know something is a proper release if its got a codename... :) It is referring to installation iso I guess. Still, even though it is not a true release in, eh, truer meaning of the word 'release', whatever it is in Linux distro world, it would still be nice to have Release Notes with some info on whats new/changed. Eugene. If the developers bothered to write stuff like that for every package (most of them have changelogs BTW) Gentoo would be like Debian.. years between releases -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
