Re: [gentoo-user] local overlay problem

2013-02-01 Thread Philip Webb
130201 Michael Hampicke wrote: > What about not using the local overlay > and simply do 'emerge --nodeps firefox' and see what happens? > Philip wants to find out if he can compile FF without alsa-lib. > To just test this case, 'emerge --nodeps ff' is perfect. > If he finds out that ff would infact

Re: [gentoo-user] local overlay problem

2013-02-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 01 Feb 2013 07:32:24 -0600, Dale wrote: > >> Then you have to update those too. As I said, either way in the long > >> term, you have to work at overriding portage defaults. > > > > But an overlay is working with portage, the other options are trying > > to trick it. > > I'm not sayin

Re: [gentoo-user] local overlay problem

2013-02-01 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 01 Feb 2013 06:59:43 -0600, Dale wrote: > work AROUND portage with a lot of things. This would include depclean. >>> >>> Which is why I think you shouldn't try to work around portage. It >>> provides a clean way of doing this, overlays, use them. > >> Then y

Re: [gentoo-user] local overlay problem

2013-02-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 01 Feb 2013 06:59:43 -0600, Dale wrote: > >> work AROUND portage with a lot of things. This would include > >> depclean. > > > > Which is why I think you shouldn't try to work around portage. It > > provides a clean way of doing this, overlays, use them. > Then you have to update those

Re: [gentoo-user] local overlay problem

2013-02-01 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 01 Feb 2013 05:35:06 -0600, Dale wrote: > Don't add it to the world file then, just upgrade it manually each time. >>> >>> Then portage will want to depclean it. It is always best to try to use >>> the methods portage provides instead of trying to be clever

Re: [gentoo-user] local overlay problem

2013-02-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 01 Feb 2013 05:35:06 -0600, Dale wrote: > >> Don't add it to the world file then, just upgrade it manually each > >> time. > > > > Then portage will want to depclean it. It is always best to try to use > > the methods portage provides instead of trying to be clever than it. > When you s

Re: [gentoo-user] local overlay problem

2013-02-01 Thread Michael Hampicke
2013/2/1 Neil Bothwick > On Fri, 01 Feb 2013 10:07:24 +0100, Michael Hampicke wrote: > > > What about not using the local overlay and simply do emerge --nodeps > > firefox and see what happens? I know, crude but simple :) > > Because every emerge @world will want to install ALSA. > > You may

Re: [gentoo-user] local overlay problem

2013-02-01 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 01 Feb 2013 04:42:38 -0600, Dale wrote: > What about not using the local overlay and simply do emerge --nodeps firefox and see what happens? I know, crude but simple :) >>> >>> Because every emerge @world will want to install ALSA. > >> Don't add it to t

Re: [gentoo-user] local overlay problem

2013-02-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 01 Feb 2013 04:42:38 -0600, Dale wrote: > >> What about not using the local overlay and simply do emerge --nodeps > >> firefox and see what happens? I know, crude but simple :) > > > > Because every emerge @world will want to install ALSA. > Don't add it to the world file then, just

Re: [gentoo-user] local overlay problem

2013-02-01 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 01 Feb 2013 10:07:24 +0100, Michael Hampicke wrote: > >> What about not using the local overlay and simply do emerge --nodeps >> firefox and see what happens? I know, crude but simple :) > > Because every emerge @world will want to install ALSA. > > <<>> > Don't

Re: [gentoo-user] local overlay problem

2013-02-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 01 Feb 2013 10:07:24 +0100, Michael Hampicke wrote: > What about not using the local overlay and simply do emerge --nodeps > firefox and see what happens? I know, crude but simple :) Because every emerge @world will want to install ALSA. You may find it will not compile without alsa-

Re: [gentoo-user] local overlay problem

2013-02-01 Thread Michael Hampicke
Am 01.02.2013 03:41, schrieb Philip Webb: > Firefox 17.0.2 requires alsa-lib , which I don't want as I don't use sound; > this is still the case with USE="-alsa". > > I want to test what happens if I try to compile it without that dep, > so I copied the ebuild to /var/lib/layman/local/www-client/f

Re: [gentoo-user] local overlay problem

2013-01-31 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 23:38:27 -0500 Philip Webb wrote: > > When running `ebuild digest`, it has to have > > all possible files available in order to update the Manifest file. > > Those languages won't be installed when you actually install > > your modified package. You'll probably want to keep t

Re: [gentoo-user] local overlay problem

2013-01-31 Thread Yohan Pereira
On 31/01/13 at 11:38pm, Philip Webb wrote: > I'll give it another try, but suggestions are still welcome. > Thanks for this one. Maybe you can try adding alsa-lib to package.provided and see if it builds/works? -- - Yohan Pereira The difference between a Miracle and a Fact is exactly the d

Re: [gentoo-user] local overlay problem

2013-01-31 Thread Philip Webb
130131 Dustin C. Hatch wrote: > On 1/31/2013 20:41, Philip Webb wrote: >> Firefox 17.0.2 requires alsa-lib , which I don't want as I don't use sound; >> this is still the case with USE="-alsa". >> I want to test what happens if I try to compile it without that dep, >> so I copied the ebuild to /var

Re: [gentoo-user] local overlay problem

2013-01-31 Thread Dustin C. Hatch
On 1/31/2013 20:41, Philip Webb wrote: Firefox 17.0.2 requires alsa-lib , which I don't want as I don't use sound; this is still the case with USE="-alsa". I want to test what happens if I try to compile it without that dep, so I copied the ebuild to /var/lib/layman/local/www-client/firefox/ & c

[gentoo-user] local overlay problem

2013-01-31 Thread Philip Webb
Firefox 17.0.2 requires alsa-lib , which I don't want as I don't use sound; this is still the case with USE="-alsa". I want to test what happens if I try to compile it without that dep, so I copied the ebuild to /var/lib/layman/local/www-client/firefox/ & commented the relevant line to remove the