Re: [gentoo-user] modem problem : Speedstream vs Zoom
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 01:12:08PM -0500, Philip Webb wrote Thanks to both: you've solved my actual problem, but not the puzzle. I installed the Gentoo pkg 'dhcpcd' 'dhcpcd eth0' gets the I/net : clearly, this is a big step forward by ISPs since 2001 ! I can also get through this way using Mandriva's wired connection. It still doesn't explain why Mandriva's pppoe works, but not Gentoo's, but that's now hopefully moot, if nothing goes wrong again. I don't bother with pppoe because the router-modem should give you a generic ethernet interface with a static IP address. I don't bother with dhcp either. You can get by with a static RFC1918 IP address from the modem. My ADSL router modem has address 192.168.123.254 and this PC has 192.168.123.249. My /etc/conf.d/net started out as... config_eth0=( 192.168.123.249 broadcast 192.168.123.255 netmask 255.255.255.248 mtu 1454 routes_eth0=( default via 192.168.123.254 ) You can get more sophisticated. Currently, I'm at... config_eth0=( 192.168.123.249 broadcast 192.168.123.255 netmask 255.255.255.248 mtu 1454 169.254.1.3 broadcast 169.254.255.255 netmask 255.255.0.0) routes_eth0=( default via 192.168.123.254 metric 2 192.168.123.248/29 via 192.168.123.254 metric 0 169.254.0.0/16 via 169.254.1.3 metric 0 ) By setting the default route to metric 2, and the other routes to metric 0, my PC can talk to other devices here at home *WHILE THE DIALUP MODEM IS CONNECTED TO THE NET*. My backup PC is on 192.168.123.248/29 and the HDHomerun TV tuner sitting in the living room (facing the CN Tower and Buffalo) is on 169.254,xxx.xxx at the other end of a 50-foot ethernet cable. -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
Re: [gentoo-user] modem problem : Speedstream vs Zoom
101216 Jason Weisberger wrote: 101216 paul.hartman wrote: 101216 Philip Webb had run into a bizarre problem with broadband modems. If it's a modem+router combo, do you need to worry about PPPoE at all ? typically the router would take care of that for you and all your PC does is get a DHCP address (NAT) from the router I second that. Gentoo probably isn't working because you have a custom pppoe networking configuration. The others are built with a standard dhcp configuration. Wipe your custom stuff and all will be well. Thanks to both: you've solved my actual problem, but not the puzzle. I installed the Gentoo pkg 'dhcpcd' 'dhcpcd eth0' gets the I/net : clearly, this is a big step forward by ISPs since 2001 ! I can also get through this way using Mandriva's wired connection. It still doesn't explain why Mandriva's pppoe works, but not Gentoo's, but that's now hopefully moot, if nothing goes wrong again. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
[gentoo-user] modem problem : Speedstream vs Zoom
I've run into a bizarre problem with broadband modems. For a long time, I've happily connected to the I/net using an ancient Speedstream modem (2001). Wanting to take advantage of the recent installation of fibre optics here to get higher speed, I contacted my ISP, a small helpful Canadian company, who decided I needed a more upto-date modem sent a Zoom modem+router. After much trial error, I've got the Zoom working with Mandriva, which I have installed alongside Gentoo in my regular desktop machine (it's there because I wanted to help a cousin who's a Linux beginner; I also have Ubuntu for the same reason, which also works with the Zoom), but not with Gentoo. The speed with Mandriva ( Ubuntu) is still as before the fibre arrived, but that's a different issue, probably due to old wiring inside the house. However, it's no use getting that wiring upgraded, if I can't use the resulting service with Gentoo. Both Mandriva my Gentoo use Kernel 2.6.33 I've recompiled the kernel to include all the various PPP-related drivers Mandriva compiles as modules (I have them as part of the actual kernel via 'Y', not as modules); I've also recompiled Gentoo pkgs 'ppp baselayout sysvinit'; I've also tried copying options from Mandriva files in /etc/ppp/ to similar files in Gentoo, though they use the older Rp-pppoe approach. Still the same line in 'daemon.log' : timeout waiting for PADO packets, unable to complete PPPoE discovery. Has anyone else run into this kind of problem ? Does anyone have suggestions what Mandriva mb doing which Gentoo needs to do ? Again, Gentoo Mandriva both work with the Speedstream modem, but only Mandriva works with the newer Zoom modem, not Gentoo. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] modem problem : Speedstream vs Zoom
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote: I've run into a bizarre problem with broadband modems. Both Mandriva my Gentoo use Kernel 2.6.33 I've recompiled the kernel to include all the various PPP-related drivers Mandriva compiles as modules (I have them as part of the actual kernel via 'Y', not as modules); I've also recompiled Gentoo pkgs 'ppp baselayout sysvinit'; I've also tried copying options from Mandriva files in /etc/ppp/ to similar files in Gentoo, though they use the older Rp-pppoe approach. Still the same line in 'daemon.log' : timeout waiting for PADO packets, unable to complete PPPoE discovery. If it's a modem+router combo, do you need to worry about PPPoE at all on your computer anymore? I think typically the router would take care of that for you, and all your PC does is get a DHCP address (NAT) from the router and is done with it, at least that's how all the ones I've seen behave (unless you've intentially disabled the router part and are using your PC as the router or are going routerless). Just throwing it out there. :)
Re: [gentoo-user] modem problem : Speedstream vs Zoom
I second that. Gentoo probably isn't working because you have a custom pppoe networking configuration. The others are built with a standard dhcp configuration. Wipe your custom stuff and all will be well. On Dec 16, 2010 6:29 PM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.compaul.hartman%2bgen...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote: I've run into a bizarre problem with broadband modems. Both Mandriva my Gentoo use Kernel 2.6.33 I've recompiled the kernel to include all the various PPP-related drivers Mandriva compiles as modules (I have them as part of the actual kernel via 'Y', not as modules); I've also recompiled Gentoo pkgs 'ppp baselayout sysvinit'; I've also tried copying options from Mandriva files in /etc/ppp/ to similar files in Gentoo, though they use the older Rp-pppoe approach. Still the same line in 'daemon.log' : timeout waiting for PADO packets, unable to complete PPPoE discovery. If it's a modem+router combo, do you need to worry about PPPoE at all on your computer anymore? I think typically the router would take care of that for you, and all your PC does is get a DHCP address (NAT) from the router and is done with it, at least that's how all the ones I've seen behave (unless you've intentially disabled the router part and are using your PC as the router or are going routerless). Just throwing it out there. :)
