Re: [gentoo-user] new installation (ssd, new udev, grub2)

2012-08-16 Thread J.Marcos Sitorus
Hi Paul, Thanks. So to be on safe side, he should partitioned the SSD using the latest fdisk (booting from sysrescuecd?) and it will automatically align to 1MB, right? Don't know if it is hijacking, but it is not an RHEL list, and top-posting can get an angry mob started. :) Sorry about

Re: [gentoo-user] new installation (ssd, new udev, grub2)

2012-08-16 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 2:51 AM, J.Marcos Sitorus gkj...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Paul, Thanks. So to be on safe side, he should partitioned the SSD using the latest fdisk (booting from sysrescuecd?) and it will automatically align to 1MB, right? Yes, I think util-linux 2.17 or higher will support

Re: [gentoo-user] new installation (ssd, new udev, grub2)

2012-08-16 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Aug 16, 2012 2:57 PM, J.Marcos Sitorus gkj...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Paul, Thanks. So to be on safe side, he should partitioned the SSD using the latest fdisk (booting from sysrescuecd?) and it will automatically align to 1MB, right? Don't know if it is hijacking, but it is not an RHEL

Re: [gentoo-user] new installation (ssd, new udev, grub2)

2012-08-15 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:33 PM, J.Marcos Sitorus gkj...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, after quick read about ssd, I have a couple of question: 1. My friend have new server with a ssd installed. He plan to RHEL 5.7 (I don't know why he choose this) on it. On redhat website, it say something like

Re: [gentoo-user] new installation (ssd, new udev, grub2)

2012-08-15 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 15 Aug 2012 17:42:02 Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:33 PM, J.Marcos Sitorus gkj...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, after quick read about ssd, I have a couple of question: 1. My friend have new server with a ssd installed. He plan to RHEL 5.7 (I don't know why he

Re: [gentoo-user] new installation (ssd, new udev, grub2)

2012-08-15 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: I think that current versions of fdisk also provide a 1M boundary, or is it 4M? Someone more up to speed on this can comment. I think basically everything* except for cfdisk defaults to 1M boundary now. * everything

Re: [gentoo-user] new installation (ssd, new udev, grub2)

2012-08-15 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 16:14:50 -0500, Paul Hartman wrote: I think that current versions of fdisk also provide a 1M boundary, or is it 4M? Someone more up to speed on this can comment. I think basically everything* except for cfdisk defaults to 1M boundary now. * everything meaning

Re: [gentoo-user] new installation (ssd, new udev, grub2)

2012-08-14 Thread J.Marcos Sitorus
Hi guys, after quick read about ssd, I have a couple of question: 1. My friend have new server with a ssd installed. He plan to RHEL 5.7 (I don't know why he choose this) on it. On redhat website, it say something like this: However, if the device does not export topology information, Red Hat

Re: [gentoo-user] new installation (ssd, new udev, grub2)

2012-08-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 14:11:37 -0400, Allan Gottlieb wrote: I have one of those. But I decided to stick with traditional DOS partitioning style and grub instead of GPT and grub2. I am leaning toward traditional partitioning, but with grub2. Do those two not mix well? GRUB2 works fine

Re: [gentoo-user] new installation (ssd, new udev, grub2)

2012-08-13 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 4:06 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 14:11:37 -0400, Allan Gottlieb wrote: I have one of those. But I decided to stick with traditional DOS partitioning style and grub instead of GPT and grub2. I am leaning toward traditional

Re: [gentoo-user] new installation (ssd, new udev, grub2)

2012-08-13 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Mon, Aug 13 2012, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 14:11:37 -0400, Allan Gottlieb wrote: GRUB2 works fine with MBR partition tables. But if you're starting from scratch, you may as well use GPT and get rid of the legacy MBR limitations and fragility. OK, but what about EFI? That

Re: [gentoo-user] new installation (ssd, new udev, grub2)

2012-08-13 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Sun, Aug 12 2012, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 14:11:37 -0400 Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Fri, Aug 10 2012, Alan McKinnon wrote: You also don't need an IO scheduler - ssd access is random like RAM, no heads moving in and out so no sector ordering to worry

Re: [gentoo-user] new installation (ssd, new udev, grub2)

2012-08-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 08:17:23 -0400, Michael Mol wrote: GRUB2 works fine with MBR partition tables. But if you're starting from scratch, you may as well use GPT and get rid of the legacy MBR limitations and fragility. I'm not dissing GPT...but what's fragile about MBR? The MBR

Re: [gentoo-user] new installation (ssd, new udev, grub2)

2012-08-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 08:17:23 -0400 Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 4:06 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 14:11:37 -0400, Allan Gottlieb wrote: I have one of those. But I decided to stick with traditional DOS partitioning

Re: [gentoo-user] new installation (ssd, new udev, grub2)

2012-08-13 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 08:17:23 -0400 Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 4:06 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 14:11:37 -0400, Allan Gottlieb wrote:

Re: [gentoo-user] new installation (ssd, new udev, grub2)

2012-08-13 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Aug 13, 2012 11:04 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 08:17:23 -0400 Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 4:06 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:

Re: [gentoo-user] new installation (ssd, new udev, grub2)

2012-08-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 11:55:31 -0400 Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 08:17:23 -0400 Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 4:06 AM, Neil Bothwick

Re: [gentoo-user] new installation (ssd, new udev, grub2)

2012-08-12 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Fri, Aug 10 2012, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 10:25:51 -0400 Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: I am getting a new laptop from dell that will dual boot windows (in case I need dell maintenance) and gentoo (real work). I have done this often, but there are three new

Re: [gentoo-user] new installation (ssd, new udev, grub2)

2012-08-12 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Fri, Aug 10 2012, Paul Hartman wrote: On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: You also don't need an IO scheduler - ssd access is random like RAM, no heads moving in and out so no sector ordering to worry about. Configure the scheduler as NOOP in

Re: [gentoo-user] new installation (ssd, new udev, grub2)

2012-08-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 14:11:37 -0400 Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Fri, Aug 10 2012, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 10:25:51 -0400 Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: I am getting a new laptop from dell that will dual boot windows (in case I need dell

[gentoo-user] new installation (ssd, new udev, grub2)

2012-08-10 Thread Allan Gottlieb
I am getting a new laptop from dell that will dual boot windows (in case I need dell maintenance) and gentoo (real work). I have done this often, but there are three new aspects this time. 1. ssd. 2. new udev (/usr part of boot partition?) 3. grub2. My plan 1s to have / + /usr one partition

Re: [gentoo-user] new installation (ssd, new udev, grub2)

2012-08-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 10:25:51 -0400 Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: I am getting a new laptop from dell that will dual boot windows (in case I need dell maintenance) and gentoo (real work). I have done this often, but there are three new aspects this time. 1. ssd. 2. new udev

Re: [gentoo-user] new installation (ssd, new udev, grub2)

2012-08-10 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: You also don't need an IO scheduler - ssd access is random like RAM, no heads moving in and out so no sector ordering to worry about. Configure the scheduler as NOOP in kernel config if all drives are ssd's I've read