Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-drivers using deprecated...
On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 10:00:40 + Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 12:38:45 +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > > > It's nothing to worry about, deprecated only mean is will be broken at > > > some time in the future, it still works for now. IMO ebuild QA > > > messages like this should not be shown to users. > > > > The idea is that users should ping developers with appropriate bug > > reports. > > Instead, they ask in here or on the forums. Shouldn't the devs see such > messages anyway and already be aware of the need to update the ebuild? They see them, but only when they build packages, e.g. when making version bump. Eclass may become deprecated after last update of a package, in such case devs may not see such warning because they have no need to rebuild the package. Best regards, Andrew Savchenko pgpAB9hzw17ZR.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-drivers using deprecated...
On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 11:00:07 +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > > The idea is that users should ping developers with appropriate bug > > > reports. > > > > Instead, they ask in here or on the forums. Shouldn't the devs see > > such messages anyway and already be aware of the need to update the > > ebuild? > > They see them, but only when they build packages, e.g. when making > version bump. Eclass may become deprecated after last update of a > package, in such case devs may not see such warning because they > have no need to rebuild the package. It still seems an awfully noisy and inefficient way of doing things. Can't the developer deprecating the eclass parse the tree for ebuilds still using it an d ping the developers, this sort of QA stuff should be automated , not rely on users seeing the messages and reporting rather than ignoring them. Anyway, the eclass has only been deprecated, the ebuild devs should be aware of this long before it is obsoleted. -- Neil Bothwick "There are no stupid questions, just too many inquisitive idiots." pgpgOxa7r6HQ3.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-drivers using deprecated...
On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 05:04:14 -0500 Philip Webb wrote: > 160201 Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 09:03:50 + Neil Bothwick wrote: > >> On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 05:56:37 +0100, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > >>> Switching to nvidia OpenCL interface... done > >>> * x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers is using the deprecated > >>> readme.gentoo.eclass.<<>> > >>> * Please use readme.gentoo-r1 instead. > >>> What does the marked line implies? This is an outdated readme? > >> It's a QA message stating that the ebuild should be updated > >> to use a newer eclass. The readme.gentoo eclass is used > >> to generate messages specific to installing the package on Gentoo. > >> IMO ebuild QA messages like this should not be shown to users. > > The idea is that users should ping developers > > with appropriate bug reports. > > However are users supposed to know that ? > How would they know whether such a bug report really was "appropriate" ? > > Really, Portage output needs a serious re-think (smile). If emerge outputs something strange for ebuild, this should be reported as bug, as well as any other weird package behaviour. Of course, no one _must_ report this, this is a matter of a good will. Best regards, Andrew Savchenko pgpHqJ2igRnLX.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-drivers using deprecated...
On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 05:56:37 +0100, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Switching to nvidia OpenCL interface... done > * x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers is using the deprecated > readme.gentoo.eclass.<<>> > * Please use readme.gentoo-r1 instead. > What does the marked line implies? This is an outdated readme? It's a QA message stating thst the ebuild should be updated to use a newer eclass. The readme.gentoo eclass is used to generate messages specific to installing the package on Gentoo. It's nothing to worry about, deprecated only mean is will be broken at some time in the future, it still works for now. IMO ebuild QA messages like this should not be shown to users. -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 13: Computer jock pgpX9a4m0BR3_.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-drivers using deprecated...
On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 12:38:45 +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > It's nothing to worry about, deprecated only mean is will be broken at > > some time in the future, it still works for now. IMO ebuild QA > > messages like this should not be shown to users. > > The idea is that users should ping developers with appropriate bug > reports. Instead, they ask in here or on the forums. Shouldn't the devs see such messages anyway and already be aware of the need to update the ebuild? -- Neil Bothwick Voting Democrat or Republican is like choosing a cabin in the Titanic. pgpDFyjAJHRdJ.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-drivers using deprecated...
160201 Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 09:03:50 + Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 05:56:37 +0100, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: >>> Switching to nvidia OpenCL interface... done >>> * x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers is using the deprecated >>> readme.gentoo.eclass.<<>> >>> * Please use readme.gentoo-r1 instead. >>> What does the marked line implies? This is an outdated readme? >> It's a QA message stating that the ebuild should be updated >> to use a newer eclass. The readme.gentoo eclass is used >> to generate messages specific to installing the package on Gentoo. >> IMO ebuild QA messages like this should not be shown to users. > The idea is that users should ping developers > with appropriate bug reports. However are users supposed to know that ? How would they know whether such a bug report really was "appropriate" ? Really, Portage output needs a serious re-think (smile). -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-drivers using deprecated...
On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 09:03:50 + Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 05:56:37 +0100, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > > Switching to nvidia OpenCL interface... done > > * x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers is using the deprecated > > readme.gentoo.eclass.<<>> > > * Please use readme.gentoo-r1 instead. > > > What does the marked line implies? This is an outdated readme? > > It's a QA message stating thst the ebuild should be updated to use a > newer eclass. The readme.gentoo eclass is used to generate messages > specific to installing the package on Gentoo. > > It's nothing to worry about, deprecated only mean is will be broken at > some time in the future, it still works for now. IMO ebuild QA messages > like this should not be shown to users. The idea is that users should ping developers with appropriate bug reports. Best regards, Andrew Savchenko pgpBnYPzAwv9I.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] nvidia-drivers using deprecated...
hi, ths morning brings an update to the nividia-drivers, whch where successfully emerged and installed. Right at the end of this process this was prointed on the console: * Removing x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-361.18-r2 from moduledb. Switching to nvidia OpenGL interface... done >>> Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache... >>> Original instance of package unmerged safely. * Updating module dependencies for 4.4.0-RT ... [ ok ] * Adding module to moduledb. Switching to nvidia OpenGL interface... done Switching to nvidia OpenCL interface... done * x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers is using the deprecated readme.gentoo.eclass. <<>> * Please use readme.gentoo-r1 instead. >>> x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-361.18-r4 merged. >>> Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache... >>> Auto-cleaning packages... >>> No outdated packages were found on your system. What does the marked line implies? This is an outdated readme? Thank you very much in advance for any translation! :) Best regards, Meino
