Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system

2010-03-17 Thread Ward Poelmans
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 17:11, Ward Poelmans wpoel...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 16:41, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: A much better way is to run a dedicated agent on the client. If the server needs to schedule backups, it can ask the agent to do so using regular

Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system

2010-02-26 Thread Ward Poelmans
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 18:50, daid kahl daid...@gmail.com wrote: As a simple idea, cron task starts rsnapshot configured however.  When this is done, backup is tarballed, and tarball is given as like, say, 440 permissions, where users are in some useful 'backup' group, then while tarball can

Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system

2010-02-26 Thread daid kahl
On 26 February 2010 22:23, Ward Poelmans wpoel...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 18:50, daid kahl daid...@gmail.com wrote: As a simple idea, cron task starts rsnapshot configured however.  When this is done, backup is tarballed, and tarball is given as like, say, 440 permissions,

Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system

2010-02-25 Thread Ward Poelmans
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 21:51, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: It looks interesting, and no program is that good that alternatives should never be considered, but I really like the way BaclupPC works. Everything is handled by the server, all you need to do on each client is copy the

Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system

2010-02-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 25 February 2010 17:15:36 Ward Poelmans wrote: On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 21:51, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: It looks interesting, and no program is that good that alternatives should never be considered, but I really like the way BaclupPC works. Everything is handled

Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system

2010-02-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:15:36 +0100, Ward Poelmans wrote: It looks interesting, and no program is that good that alternatives should never be considered, but I really like the way BaclupPC works. Everything is handled by the server, all you need to do on each client is copy the backuppc

Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system

2010-02-25 Thread Ward Poelmans
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 16:41, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: A much better way is to run a dedicated agent on the client. If the server needs to schedule backups, it can ask the agent to do so using regular tcp traffic. The client can then do it's backup and rsync it over to the

Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system

2010-02-25 Thread daid kahl
On 26 February 2010 01:11, Ward Poelmans wpoel...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 16:41, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: A much better way is to run a dedicated agent on the client. If the server needs to schedule backups, it can ask the agent to do so using regular tcp

Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system

2010-02-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 17:41:13 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: And someone gets into your backup server, BANG! instant pwnage of every single machine on your network. Heck, you don't even have to try and compromise the local root account, you already have full unfettered access to everything

Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system

2010-02-25 Thread Grant
A much better way is to run a dedicated agent on the client. If the server needs to schedule backups, it can ask the agent to do so using regular tcp traffic. The client can then do it's backup and rsync it over to the server when it's done, and that push can be done as a regular user on both

Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system

2010-02-24 Thread Grant
How is BackupPC to set up?  Is it a whole new world to explore, or can it be set up quickly and easily? It takes a little while to get the hang of how the config files work, but once you get it it takes no work at all. Restoring is as simple as selecting the files you want in a browser and

Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system

2010-02-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 11:02:42 -0800, Grant wrote: Has anyone tried backupninja? There is a new ebuild for it. https://labs.riseup.net/code/projects/show/backupninja/ Is BackupPC too excellent to consider an alternative? I'm going to set up one of these backup systems in the next few

Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system

2009-11-20 Thread Grant
4. Should I be comfortable running the entire sync operation every night, or am I jeopardizing the longevity of my HDs? This is a joke. I should apologize and explain this better. If you bought a fancy expensive hard drive then it's probably designed for extremely heavy use and comes

Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system

2009-11-20 Thread Grant
2. Some of the files I back up only allow root to read.  I can run rsync as root on each system, but I don't allow root logins.  This means in order to rsync the second sync system with the first sync system, I must run the rsync command from the first sync system. This means I have to run

Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system

2009-11-20 Thread Ward Poelmans
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 19:19, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: BackupPC does look pretty good.  Would anyone recommend I *don't* can this whole thing and set up BackupPC instead? I recommend you take a look at rsnapshot instead of pure rsync. Ward

Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system

2009-11-20 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 08:03 -0800, Grant wrote: Thank you for the clarification. Which are the fancy expensive hard drives? The SAS drives that run at 15k RPM and cost $2-3 USD per GB. As opposed to your run of the mill 7200RPM SATA drive that costs pennies per GB.

Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system

2009-11-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:05:27 -0800, Grant wrote: How is BackupPC to set up? Is it a whole new world to explore, or can it be set up quickly and easily? It takes a little while to get the hang of how the config files work, but once you get it it takes no work at all. Restoring is as simple as

[gentoo-user] rsync backup system

2009-11-19 Thread Grant
I just finished an rsync backup system that works like this: Each of 4 Gentoo systems contains a folder called backup which contains symlinks to local files and folders for backup. 2 of the systems contain a folder called sync which contains the contents of the backup folder for each of the 4

Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system

2009-11-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:44:44 -0800, Grant wrote: 2. Some of the files I back up only allow root to read. I can run rsync as root on each system, but I don't allow root logins. This means in order to rsync the second sync system with the first sync system, I must run the rsync command from

Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system

2009-11-19 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Thu, 2009-11-19 at 08:44 -0800, Grant wrote: I just finished an rsync backup system that works like this: Each of 4 Gentoo systems contains a folder called backup which contains symlinks to local files and folders for backup. 2 of the systems contain a folder called sync which contains

Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system

2009-11-19 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Thu, 2009-11-19 at 12:58 -0500, Albert Hopkins wrote: 4. Should I be comfortable running the entire sync operation every night, or am I jeopardizing the longevity of my HDs? This is a joke. I should apologize and explain this better. If you bought a fancy expensive hard drive then

Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system

2009-11-19 Thread Grant
2. Some of the files I back up only allow root to read.  I can run rsync as root on each system, but I don't allow root logins.  This means in order to rsync the second sync system with the first sync system, I must run the rsync command from the first sync system. This means I have to run