[gentoo-user] sys-apps/pam-login blocking sys-apps/shadow
Ultra-quick question: By unmerging pam-login will I be breaking anything? It's preventing a emerge --newuse system (and later a emerge --newuse world) that's I'm preparing to do over the weekend (and to see if I can get distcc working between my server and workstation to support my poor laptop in the task! Wish me luck!) -- http://lordsauronthegreat.googlepages.com/ pgp1yiWDmNF8z.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/pam-login blocking sys-apps/shadow
On Tuesday 26 September 2006 02:23, Lord Sauron wrote: Ultra-quick question: By unmerging pam-login will I be breaking anything? you must not log out between unmergin pam-login and emerging shadow. And that has been written douzends of time. Maybe you search the archives next time? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/pam-login blocking sys-apps/shadow
On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 02:30:12 +0200, Lord Sauron wrote: Ultra-quick question: By unmerging pam-login will I be breaking anything? http://farragut.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org/articles/2006/06/01/refreshing-the-pam-login-and-shadow-problem -- Peter Wu Powered by Gentoo GNU/Linux 2.6.17 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/pam-login blocking sys-apps/shadow
On Monday 25 September 2006 17:29, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Tuesday 26 September 2006 02:23, Lord Sauron wrote: Ultra-quick question: By unmerging pam-login will I be breaking anything? you must not log out between unmergin pam-login and emerging shadow. And that has been written douzends of time. Maybe you search the archives next time? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/Archival$ grep -rn pam-login ./cur [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/inbox$ grep -rn pam-login ./cur Hint: you got both the command and the output. Unless I'm doing something wrong, that should be an answer enough for you. (If I am doing something wrong - please tell me! I don't think I'm wrong because the same command for the search the reveals a lot of stuff). And thanks for the tip. I thought that trying to log in after making the switch might be a bad idea, however, I wasn't sure so I asked. -- http://lordsauronthegreat.googlepages.com/ pgptp4m7q1SqP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/pam-login
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: if you have used google, you wouldn't had to ask here. Saving you some time and a lot of people some bandwidth. If you are so concerned about others bandwidth, then why waste it to troll? If you had read the thread, you would have seen that plenty of people responded already. So why ad to the noise? Jim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- You roll an 18 in Dex and see if you don't end up with a girlfriend =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- JimD Central FL, USA, Earth, Sol -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/pam-login
On Thursday 01 June 2006 08:40, JimD wrote: Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: if you have used google, you wouldn't had to ask here. Saving you some time and a lot of people some bandwidth. If you are so concerned about others bandwidth, then why waste it to troll? If you had read the thread, you would have seen that plenty of people responded already. So why ad to the noise? education? it is just plain laziness to ask a question in a mailing list or forum, that could have been aswered by typing three words into google search. 1minute google! google for this: gentoo shadow pam-login and the right link is the first one. How hard is that? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/pam-login
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: education? I have a formal education. I do not need any pointers from you, thanks. it is just plain laziness to ask a question in a mailing list or forum, that could have been aswered by typing three words into google search. Talking about education, usually one would capitalize the first word of a sentence. I get to make a new procmail recipe now: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Jim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- You roll an 18 in Dex and see if you don't end up with a girlfriend =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- JimD Central FL, USA, Earth, Sol -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/pam-login
JimD wrote: Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: education? I think he meant education of the others asking questions that are easily googled though I read it the way you interpreted the first time as well. I agree that it is easily googled, *but* I can see why people might want a bit of hand holding on this one. It's Oh my God I just locked myself out of a system three thousand miles away packages like pam and shadow that you really don't want to screw up. I might have asked the same questions even after Googling, but I have a test machine and many users do not. kashani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/pam-login
On Thursday 01 June 2006 18:28, JimD wrote: Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: education? I have a formal education. I do not need any pointers from you, thanks. it is just plain laziness to ask a question in a mailing list or forum, that could have been aswered by typing three words into google search. Talking about education, usually one would capitalize the first word of a sentence. talking about education: How many languages you learnt at school or elsewhere? I get to make a new procmail recipe now: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null if that pleases you ... *shrug* I don't care. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] sys-apps/pam-login
I get this message when trying to do an emerge -vpuDN world: These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating world dependencies . ... done! [blocks B ] sys-apps/pam-login (is blocking sys-apps/shadow-4.0.15-r2) Do I need to remove sys-apps/shadow? I thought that was part of system? Jim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= There's no place like 127.0.0.1 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= JimD Central FL, USA, Earth, Sol -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/pam-login
JimD wrote: I get this message when trying to do an emerge -vpuDN world: These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating world dependencies . ... done! [blocks B ] sys-apps/pam-login (is blocking sys-apps/shadow-4.0.15-r2) Do I need to remove sys-apps/shadow? I thought that was part of system? Jim you have to unmerge (emerge -C pam-login) and emerge shadow as Changelog says it contains all was in pam-login andrea -- Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Scopri RIS il sistema di ricarica infinita. Meglio delle cartucce, meglio degli inchiostri, economico, facile da installare e da utilizzare, solo su refill.it Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=5191d=31-5 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/pam-login
Take a look at the following page, it will tell you what you need to do. http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/flameeyes/2006/03/19/the_shadow_and_pam_login_conflict On Thursday, 1 June 2006 2:30, JimD wrote: I get this message when trying to do an emerge -vpuDN world: These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating world dependencies . ... done! [blocks B ] sys-apps/pam-login (is blocking sys-apps/shadow-4.0.15-r2) Do I need to remove sys-apps/shadow? I thought that was part of system? Jim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= There's no place like 127.0.0.1 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= JimD Central FL, USA, Earth, Sol -- Raymond Lewis Rebbeck -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/pam-login
Hi Jim and all other Gentoo lovers, This counts for me the same. Only what I didn't and still don't understand is that when you first install Gentoo, it installs both without complaining. At least it does that with me all the time. Second when removing one of the two, you could face the fact that you can't login into your system. Which would sound normal because both are more or less responsible for your login and therefor like you say part of your system. So I'm wondering what the experts have to say about this :-) Cheers, William. On Wed, 31 May 2006 13:00:04 -0400 JimD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote [gentoo-user] sys-apps/pam-login : I get this message when trying to do an emerge -vpuDN world: These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating world dependencies . ... done! [blocks B ] sys-apps/pam-login (is blocking sys-apps/shadow-4.0.15-r2) Do I need to remove sys-apps/shadow? I thought that was part of system? Jim -- \|/ \|/_ _ ` _ ' @~/ ,. \~@ o' \,=./ `o - (_) - (o -) /_( \__/ )_\ (o o) ' ` +---ooO--(_)--Ooo-\__U_/ooO--(_)--Ooo--+ http://www.meewi.be SMILE http://www.ladiescycling.net it cost nothing and http://www.hostinglc.net it's beyond price ! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/pam-login
JimD wrote: I get this message when trying to do an emerge -vpuDN world: These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating world dependencies . ... done! [blocks B ] sys-apps/pam-login (is blocking sys-apps/shadow-4.0.15-r2) Do I need to remove sys-apps/shadow? I thought that was part of system? Jim I saw it mentioned a few days ago (or yesterday or some such). I just ran into it five minutes ago, after having done emerge -e system emerge --sync emerge -p -e world I think I read the solution to be unmerging pam-login and leave it so. Kristian Poul Herkild -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/pam-login
JimD wrote: I get this message when trying to do an emerge -vpuDN world: These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating world dependencies . ... done! [blocks B ] sys-apps/pam-login (is blocking sys-apps/shadow-4.0.15-r2) Do I need to remove sys-apps/shadow? I thought that was part of system? Jim Hi, Remove sys-apps/pam-login,then emerge sys-apps/shadow -av. Most probably pam-login functionality is integrated into sys-apps/shadow HTH.Rumen smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/pam-login
William Meertens wrote: Second when removing one of the two, you could face the fact that you can't login into your system. Which would sound normal because both are more or less responsible for your login and therefor like you say part of your system. This happened to me last night. Fixed by booting in single-user mode and rebuilding shadow, pam, and openssh (ssh login was still broken even after rebuilding shadow and pam). I don't really understand how PAM works, so I can't say what happened exactly. For safety's sake, I'd recommend rebuilding at least those three before logging out or rebooting. ;) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/pam-login
Take a look at the following page, it will tell you what you need to do. http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/flameeyes/2006/03/19/the_shadow_and_pam_login_conflict This explains it all, only I'm still curious why even with version 6.0 I'm still getting both installed just fine. Hardly look at the messages since Gentoo installs while I'm dreaming. Just as nice without complaining as my dreams are. Only when doing an update later it starts to complain. Since Gentoo version 5.0 I'm having this on all systems. Regardless the choice of installation. All my best, William. On Thursday, 1 June 2006 2:30, JimD wrote: I get this message when trying to do an emerge -vpuDN world: These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating world dependencies . ... done! [blocks B ] sys-apps/pam-login (is blocking sys-apps/shadow-4.0.15-r2) Do I need to remove sys-apps/shadow? I thought that was part of system? Jim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= There's no place like 127.0.0.1 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= JimD Central FL, USA, Earth, Sol -- \|/ \|/_ _ ` _ ' @~/ ,. \~@ o' \,=./ `o - (_) - (o -) /_( \__/ )_\ (o o) ' ` +---ooO--(_)--Ooo-\__U_/ooO--(_)--Ooo--+ http://www.meewi.be SMILE http://www.ladiescycling.net it cost nothing and http://www.hostinglc.net it's beyond price ! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/pam-login
On Wednesday 31 May 2006 19:00, JimD wrote: I get this message when trying to do an emerge -vpuDN world: These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating world dependencies . ... done! [blocks B ] sys-apps/pam-login (is blocking sys-apps/shadow-4.0.15-r2) Do I need to remove sys-apps/shadow? I thought that was part of system? if you have used google, you wouldn't had to ask here. Saving you some time and a lot of people some bandwidth. This question was answered douzends of time... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/pam-login
On Wed, 31 May 2006, William Meertens wrote: Take a look at the following page, it will tell you what you need to do. http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/flameeyes/2006/03/19/the_shadow_and_pam_login_conflict This explains it all, only I'm still curious why even with version 6.0 I'm still getting both installed just fine. Hardly look at the messages since Gentoo installs while I'm dreaming. Just as nice without complaining as my dreams are. Only when doing an update later it starts to complain. Since Gentoo version 5.0 I'm having this on all systems. Regardless the choice of installation. All my best, William. On Thursday, 1 June 2006 2:30, JimD wrote: I get this message when trying to do an emerge -vpuDN world: These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating world dependencies . ... done! [blocks B ] sys-apps/pam-login (is blocking sys-apps/shadow-4.0.15-r2) Do I need to remove sys-apps/shadow? I thought that was part of system? Jim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= There's no place like 127.0.0.1 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= JimD Central FL, USA, Earth, Sol Do you have pam in your use flags? If so, it would make shadow do the job of pam-login, thus creating the problem. If not, then they are both welcome to be there. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/pam-login
Look who's having a bad day :-) today. Tomorrow it all will be better. Is it raining with you too for a long time now ? On Wed, 31 May 2006 20:48:52 +0200 Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/pam-login : On Wednesday 31 May 2006 19:00, JimD wrote: I get this message when trying to do an emerge -vpuDN world: These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating world dependencies . ... done! [blocks B ] sys-apps/pam-login (is blocking sys-apps/shadow-4.0.15-r2) Do I need to remove sys-apps/shadow? I thought that was part of system? if you have used google, you wouldn't had to ask here. Saving you some time and a lot of people some bandwidth. This question was answered douzends of time... -- \|/ \|/_ _ ` _ ' @~/ ,. \~@ o' \,=./ `o - (_) - (o -) /_( \__/ )_\ (o o) ' ` +---ooO--(_)--Ooo-\__U_/ooO--(_)--Ooo--+ http://www.meewi.be SMILE http://www.ladiescycling.net it cost nothing and http://www.hostinglc.net it's beyond price ! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list