Re: [gentoo-user] wicd and net-tools
On Sunday 27 November 2011 02.02:54 Paul Hartman wrote: On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: In the last day or two wicd broke badly due to a net-tools upgrade. The recommended workarounds are to specify USE=old-output for net-tools or to downgrade net-tools one version (I am ~amd64). Neither of these have helped me. Wicd cannot start either the wired or wireless interface. I have no solution, but just a me too that wicd-based networking stopped working entirely after I emerged some updates a couple days ago. My short-term solution was just stop wicd and use the old-style net init script instead since I haven't had time to research any this weekend yet. I had the same issue after upgrading net-tools, wicd stoped working. While googling for a solution I found a workaround: Use the ioctl backend instead of the external backend. For me this workaround works. -- Dan Johansson, http://www.dmj.nu *** This message is printed on 100% recycled electrons! ***
Re: [gentoo-user] wicd and net-tools
On Sun, Nov 27 2011, Dan Johansson wrote: On Sunday 27 November 2011 02.02:54 Paul Hartman wrote: On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: In the last day or two wicd broke badly due to a net-tools upgrade. The recommended workarounds are to specify USE=old-output for net-tools or to downgrade net-tools one version (I am ~amd64). Neither of these have helped me. Wicd cannot start either the wired or wireless interface. I have no solution, but just a me too that wicd-based networking stopped working entirely after I emerged some updates a couple days ago. My short-term solution was just stop wicd and use the old-style net init script instead since I haven't had time to research any this weekend yet. I had the same issue after upgrading net-tools, wicd stoped working. While googling for a solution I found a workaround: Use the ioctl backend instead of the external backend. For me this workaround works. Thanks for the comments. I did the changes suggested in the bug report (downgrade net-tools or specify USE=old-output). This changed the behavior, but it was far from perfect. The next morning, however, after no hardware/software changes but after our thanksgiving guests (plus their laptops, phones, and ipads) left, wicd is working pretty well on both affected machines. I was nowhere near the 50 dhcp connection limit, but perhaps the extra radio transmissions were hurting. Anyway now one machine has the downgraded net-tools, the other USE=old-output and both seem to work. This was definitely not fun. Now for a really scary thought. I just let portage put gnome 3 on my extra laptop. That machine has a fresh fairly minimalistic desktop/gnome install. Light testing shows gnome-3 works as advertised. Do I dare put it on my real laptop? I am tempted to wait until intersession so as not to hinder preparing for my lectures; but I worry about letting a system go 1 month without updates. allan
Re: [gentoo-user] wicd and net-tools
On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 13:27:59 +0100, Dan Johansson wrote: I had the same issue after upgrading net-tools, wicd stoped working. While googling for a solution I found a workaround: Use the ioctl backend instead of the external backend. For me this workaround works. That explains why I was unaffected by this, I already used the ioctl, since it claims to be faster and we Gentoo users are all ricers... aren't we? ;-) -- Neil Bothwick Hard work has a future payoff. Laziness pays off NOW! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] wicd and net-tools
On Nov 28, 2011 6:18 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 13:27:59 +0100, Dan Johansson wrote: I had the same issue after upgrading net-tools, wicd stoped working. While googling for a solution I found a workaround: Use the ioctl backend instead of the external backend. For me this workaround works. That explains why I was unaffected by this, I already used the ioctl, since it claims to be faster and we Gentoo users are all ricers... aren't we? ;-) gentoo inside joke Aha! Neil, now that you've gone out of the closet and admit you're a ricer, I'm going to mark all your bug reports as WONTFIX. . . . Naaah, just kidding. The devs/maintainers will do that for me :-P /gentoo inside joke Rgds,
Re: [gentoo-user] wicd and net-tools
On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: In the last day or two wicd broke badly due to a net-tools upgrade. The recommended workarounds are to specify USE=old-output for net-tools or to downgrade net-tools one version (I am ~amd64). Neither of these have helped me. Wicd cannot start either the wired or wireless interface. I have no solution, but just a me too that wicd-based networking stopped working entirely after I emerged some updates a couple days ago. My short-term solution was just stop wicd and use the old-style net init script instead since I haven't had time to research any this weekend yet.
[gentoo-user] wicd and net-tools
In the last day or two wicd broke badly due to a net-tools upgrade. The recommended workarounds are to specify USE=old-output for net-tools or to downgrade net-tools one version (I am ~amd64). Neither of these have helped me. Wicd cannot start either the wired or wireless interface. When I type killall dhcpd; dhcpd Both networks come up but the wireless gets many errors (as reported by ifconfig). Also sometimes the network goes down again. Two days ago both networks were solid. Another machine that I was in the process of bringing up (gentoo fully installed from the handbook, but many utilities not yet done) also fails under wicd today (worked fine two days ago). For this machine killall dhcp; dhcp reports that no interfaces have a carrier The machine is 10 feet from the router/wap (linksys) and again all was well 2 days ago. Help would be very much appreciated. thanks, allan PS I couldn't connect yesterday and today, the new gnome (3.2) hit testing. Since I don't want to bite that big, potentially disruptive update with this network problem (the overlay version failed for me), I have not done an update world for 2 or 3 days.
Re: [gentoo-user] wicd and net-tools
On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: In the last day or two wicd broke badly due to a net-tools upgrade. The recommended workarounds are to specify USE=old-output for net-tools or to downgrade net-tools one version (I am ~amd64). Neither of these have helped me. Wicd cannot start either the wired or wireless interface. When I type killall dhcpd; dhcpd Both networks come up but the wireless gets many errors (as reported by ifconfig). Also sometimes the network goes down again. Two days ago both networks were solid. Another machine that I was in the process of bringing up (gentoo fully installed from the handbook, but many utilities not yet done) also fails under wicd today (worked fine two days ago). For this machine killall dhcp; dhcp reports that no interfaces have a carrier The machine is 10 feet from the router/wap (linksys) and again all was well 2 days ago. Help would be very much appreciated. thanks, allan PS I couldn't connect yesterday and today, the new gnome (3.2) hit testing. Since I don't want to bite that big, potentially disruptive update with this network problem (the overlay version failed for me), I have not done an update world for 2 or 3 days. Not to be too glib but isn't this sort of problem exactly what the whole stable vs ~amd64 decision is really all about? Anyway, my machines are stable with a few ~amd64 entries in package.keywords. I don't keyword either of these packages and I have wicd-1.7.1_beta2-r4 net-tools-1.60_p20110409135728 on my laptop. Both wireless wired come up fine here. I have dhcpd on the machine but I don't run it. Not exactly sure how any of that will help you but I'm fully up to date as of today and everything seems to be working fine. - Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] wicd and net-tools
On Fri, Nov 25 2011, Mark Knecht wrote: On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: In the last day or two wicd broke badly due to a net-tools upgrade. The recommended workarounds are to specify USE=old-output for net-tools or to downgrade net-tools one version (I am ~amd64). Neither of these have helped me. Wicd cannot start either the wired or wireless interface. When I type killall dhcpd; dhcpd Both networks come up but the wireless gets many errors (as reported by ifconfig). Also sometimes the network goes down again. Two days ago both networks were solid. Another machine that I was in the process of bringing up (gentoo fully installed from the handbook, but many utilities not yet done) also fails under wicd today (worked fine two days ago). For this machine killall dhcp; dhcp reports that no interfaces have a carrier The machine is 10 feet from the router/wap (linksys) and again all was well 2 days ago. Help would be very much appreciated. thanks, allan PS I couldn't connect yesterday and today, the new gnome (3.2) hit testing. Since I don't want to bite that big, potentially disruptive update with this network problem (the overlay version failed for me), I have not done an update world for 2 or 3 days. Not to be too glib but isn't this sort of problem exactly what the whole stable vs ~amd64 decision is really all about? Anyway, my machines are stable with a few ~amd64 entries in package.keywords. I don't keyword either of these packages and I have wicd-1.7.1_beta2-r4 net-tools-1.60_p20110409135728 on my laptop. Both wireless wired come up fine here. I have dhcpd on the machine but I don't run it. Not exactly sure how any of that will help you but I'm fully up to date as of today and everything seems to be working fine. - Mark Right. I am running testing. But so are many on this list and I believe many of those use wicd. I was hoping someone would have solved this same problem. allan
