Am 08.04.2014 07:24, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
I just looked up what systemd-networkd and virt-manager do.
No tap-devices here when I run a local VM ... so I might review the
openrc-script for reference.
edited and tested the bridge.service:
http://www.oops.co.at/en/publications
happening, as more and more
infrastructure migrates towards systemd. Perhaps a news item everytime
it happens is unrealistic?
Weren't you the one saying that those of us who were voicing
concerns that
systemd proponents were ultimately wanting to FORCE systemd on
everyone were
just scare-mongering
On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
First question: is there a decent guide to installing a gentoo system from
scratch using systemd as the init system?
I've done this a few times on VMs. Just follow the handbook, but skip
steps about configuring
On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 12:33 PM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote:
I set my nameservers all manually in this file and they do
not every change. I do not run systemd. I'm not sure
of your issue(s) but, historically, resolv.conf should not
be displaying this behavior.
FWIW, systemd
researchers.
I'm sorry, Volker pointed out that the pro systemd folks came to
gentoo-user, waiving linux's dirty panties around. We ask a few
simple questions, now you result to name calling?
There is no gentoo-user separate from pro systemd folks. You made
that up. pro systemd folks have
, October 26, 2014 02:16:24 PM Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
And with systemd, rebooting to a new kernel takes just a few seconds
;)
And here I was thinking that the pro-systemd crowd doesn't care about
the
boot-time of systemd?
(See the [OT} Linus Torvalds on systemd thread around 18
:09PM +0100, Michael
Mair-Keimberger wrote:
snip
systemd. Maybe i could adopt that to my custom one as well.
/snip
Working examples are always nice :-)
Around dracut and grub2 I remember a few bits, maybe they help.
In /etc/dracut.conf I have (after discussion here):
# dracut
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 12:44:12PM -0500, Tanstaafl wrote:
This is really an incorrect (and even borderline arrogant) answer...
To answer the OPs question correctly...
Since OpenRC is the *default* - for now at least - it is *king*, and
systemd is the red-headed step-child
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 1:05 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote:
systemd puts /tmp on a tmpfs by default.
True, but there was pushback by Fedora developers when this became the
default so Lennart patched systemd for a /tmp mount in /etc/fstab
to override /lib/systemd/system/tmp.mount.
A pseudo
Zitat von Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com:
Lennart claims that the embedded world loves systemd. I suspect that,
as in other corners of the Linux world, there are lovers and haters of
systemd.
Embedded systems also quite often means low on resources, CPU power,
memory, space.
If you are using
How do I start and stop systemd services, I would imagine systemd works the
same across all distros.
My openvpn server is running on Gentoo but client openvpn I setup on Fedora 21
(as the computer is old and slow).
Normally I would create configuration files in /etc/openvpn/
and run:
/etc
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 6:26 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, I see the same, which I feel is a systemd bug. The escaping
trick works only with the 'enable' command, not stop or start. Dumb.
It seems more likely to be an error with the unit, which has nothing
to do with systemd. As I
On 03/17/2015 06:56 AM, Bob Wya wrote:
I've not seen any that are OpenRC specific... But this one is pretty
decent for SysVInit vs. systemd...
http://linoxide.com/linux-command/systemd-vs-sysvinit-cheatsheet/
Yeah I found one similar to that, but located elsewhere. Maybe if I have
some time
On Wed, 01 Apr 2015 08:19:18 -0700, Daniel Frey wrote:
Nice! Apart from the zap thing that Canek has already covered, I
think it could be useful. Could you add a link to it to the main
systemd page.
I've added it to the See Also section at the end of the Systemd page.
I didn't know
its use flag to add abi_x86_32.
After doing some 70 of those (a pain), I get to something which I cannot
solve. At some early point portage suggested that I run --newuse
--update when doing this, but now I am down to the following:
!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy
=sys-apps/systemd
, you certainly don't need to use
> systemd as your DNS resolver if you don't want to.
>
> Systemd also doesn't touch /etc/resolv.conf contrary to what that
> email states. It only touches /run/systemd/resolve/resolv.conf which
> does absolutely nothing on its own unless you choose
On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 11:42:55 -0600, Jc García wrote:
> >> It is my overwhelming concern. NO systemd.
> >> All else is optional. Where's that setting?
> >
> > The hierarchy is package.use > make.conf > profile
> I forgot USE as environment variable, so
with that GUID in the
> GPT table are automatically mounted by systemd-gpt-auto-generator.
>
>
>
> Here some links:
>
> https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-gpt-auto-generator.html
>
> https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/DiscoverablePartitionsSpec/
>
Ah, OK, mystery solved.
Thanks
Jorge
6_32(-),abi_x86_64(-)]) required by
> (virtual/libudev-215-r1:0/1::gentoo, installed)
>
> (sys-apps/systemd-226-r2:0/2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in
> by
> >=sys-apps/systemd-207 required by
> (sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration-6:0/0::gentoo, ebuild sch
On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 7:38 AM, Neil Bothwick <n...@digimed.co.uk> wrote:
>
> I don't use grub on UEFI systems, but I use the systemd bootloader, so I
> thought I'd keep quiet about that ;-)
I'm also a heretic who uses the systemd bootloader no matter what pid1
is in charge.
It's
On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 3:35 PM, Daniel Frey <djqf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 12/19/2016 01:09 PM, Andrej Rode wrote:
>>
>> https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/
>
> It could be I found a bug. After a reboot it went from the n
I have not done a world update in a few weeks and I like to check
things out first before doing this. I am seeing that the latest
update of dracut has the -systemd as a mandatory flag. So, since I
have to use systemd, does this mean I can no longer use dracut -- I
have found dracut very nice
a text console,
> startx works fine but the Gnome session misses some features (e.g.
> screen lock). I enabled debug logging on gdm but nothing significant
> appears.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> thanks,
>
> raffaele
>
>
> systemd[356]: user@32.service: Failed at step
I have a question on this news item.
I use systemd (gnome3) on a gentoo stable system.
eix reports that sys-apps/systemd-236-r5 is installed
But
euse -I sysv-utils
reports
no matching entries found
Is something wrong?
I do *not* have
sys-apps/sysvinit, sys-apps/openrc, or net-misc
On Tue, 20 Nov 2018 10:49:27 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> > What version does "qlist ICv systemd" show?
>
> No version, just a long list of files.
That should have been "qlist -ICv systemd"
--
Neil Bothwick
Do you realize how many holes there co
On Fri, 24 Apr 2020 10:41:24 +0200, Michele Alzetta wrote:
> ... I just hope the remote system isn't running systemd, if so, you
> have to do some additional tweaking before screen or tmux work. I know
> someone who was bitten hard by this. Apparently systemd by default
> closes
On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:30:01AM -0400, John Covici wrote:
> Gnome requires you to use systemd, so be warned.
Small addendum: GNOME, from version 3.3, can, technically, be used without
systemd. See [1] and [2].
[1] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GNOME/GNOME_Without_systemd/Gentoo
[2] ht
I’ve been noted that Systemd is putting hard dependency in things like
Bluetooth, today is difficult rely upon a system without Bluetooth.
Anyone know some systemd manual to quickly put a system to run?
I was guessing could be easy install a systemd, but I’m realizing that
isn’t.
Thanks
--
M.S
On Fri, Jul 3, 2020, 09:34 Tamer Higazi wrote:
> Hi people,
>
> I had a problem with docker on gentoo and found the solution for all my
> problems with a custom mount command:
>
> |sudo mount -t cgroup -o none,name=systemd cgroup /sys/fs/cgroup/systemd
> Can anybody of y
Am 23.08.2011 11:22, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Improve_responsiveness_with_cgroups
brings the script /usr/local/sbin/cgroup_start which is started by
openrc, but not by systemd. In there the perms would be set up for my
user ...
So the solution
On 05/16/2012 01:40 AM, Ignas Anikevicius wrote:
I want to do this, so that I do not have to wait while non-crucial
services are being started
I can barely remember when I was young enough to care about saving
a few seconds. (But, good for you :)
Have you heard of systemd? Yet another evil
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote:
Am 2012-07-20 14:43, schrieb Peter Alfredsen:
(I am assuming that you are using systemd-186 -- all earlier releases
I checked have bugs I ran into)
thanks for all the information ... added those pam.d-lines
Am 25.09.2012 18:49, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 3:32 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote:
Am 25.09.2012 10:09, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
So if I don't use systemd right now, it would be better to keep
consolekit? I give it a try now ... compiling stuff
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Helmut Jarausch
jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote:
Many thanks Neil for the quick help.
Probably I should stop using openrc and switch to systemd.
I haven't followed the thread(s) on this list on systemd, I just wonder why
GenToo still sticks to
openrc while
@coolmail.sek7k1hn$ce6$1...@ger.gmane.org,
Canek Peláez Valdés said:
Mmmh. I stopped using that overlay years ago. It's still maintained?
Must be, it had all the necessary .service files that were missing from
the systemd install.
That doesn't mean anything; the format of the .service files
On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 23:46:29 +0700
Robin Atwood robin.atw...@attglobal.net wrote:
Thanks for the tips, now I can get more output to tty1 if I want. I
still can't get any systemd messages to syslog-ng, however. A bit of
a mystery.
This may be way off as I expect systemd to never shape up
And, BTW, I didn't mean behind in the sense that Gentoo doesn't
support systemd; I meant behind in the sense that us systemd users
get a lot flak just by mention it in the list.
And that's exactly why I see Gentoo as being ahead and actually your
talking about a few of the IMO more moronic
-vim/udev-syntax
virtual/udev
...
Ad use-flags:
I have/had
=sys-fs/udev-197-r8 static-libs
Removing this didn't help either.
No special use-flags for systemd in package.use.
profile:
default/linux/amd64/13.0/desktop/gnome
portage tree pulled in again right now ... still:
# emerge
I assume I have to remove udev-init-scripts now?
I ran away from Arch last year to get away from all this systemd stuff. I
hope that you guys will continue to support openrc for as long as possible.
One question though. why does everyone seem to be migrating towards
systemd? How is it superior? is openrc just a dead project is that why?
On Wed
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Michael Hampicke m...@hadt.biz wrote:
Am 15.05.2013 20:27, schrieb waltd...@waltdnes.org:
Direct from the Making systemd more accessible to normal users
flamewar on gentoo-dev...
And now that GNOME 3.8 is out, the game starts over again: logind
posted. Especially from a
systemd fanboi.
2013/7/22 Michael Hampicke m...@hadt.biz
Am 22.07.2013 17:02, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
ConsoleKit is for all practical purposes unmaintained, and all of the
packages you mentioned it support systemd just fine. Emerge systemd,
and purge CK
On 23/07/13 00:46, Mark David Dumlao wrote:
This would be a lot less of an issue if someone just wrote a logind
ebuild (wink wink) that provides consolekit like it was originally intended.
not possible, logind since systemd = 205 requires systemd and won't
work on openrc, upstart
KMail is messing with my
emails here, quotations in
sent letters are not the way
they used to look in edit mode
:)
On Jul 27, 2013 4:44 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote:
First hint: it's a mess -- don't do it on a critical machine.
(My main machine is ~amd64 and that's why I'm doing it on virtual
~amd64 machines first.)
The new gnome-shell demands that systemd be installed, even if you
don't intend
walt w41...@gmail.com wrote:
On 07/26/2013 06:39 AM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
must I check that every entry previously in /etc/init.d now has an entry
in /usr/lib/systemd/system? What do I do if there is no corresponding
entry?
I actually had to write a few of my own *.service files
systemd.unit (5)
systemd.service (5)
On Jul 28, 2013 6:26 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
walt w41...@gmail.com wrote:
On 07/26/2013 06:39 AM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
must I check that every entry previously in /etc/init.d now has an
entry
in /usr/lib/systemd/system? What do I do
an
entry
in /usr/lib/systemd/system? What do I do if there is no corresponding
entry?
I actually had to write a few of my own *.service files, which belong in
/etc/systemd/system/ instead of /usr/lib64/systemd/system. (systemd looks
in both places for service files)
I started
Am 28.07.2013 10:04, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
The only special thing I'm doing is to mask sys-apps/systemd-204,
since 205 introduced the new cgroups management code (with systemd as
the only writer of the cgroups hierarchy), and it seems to cause some
minor problems with logind. Other
On 31/07/13 at 06:56pm, Stroller wrote:
Hmmmn, it's a bit freaking weird - if I'm understanding correctly some of the
statements made here about systemd - that there will be files installed to
/etc/init.d/ that don't actually do anything.
If your refering to what I think your refering
://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2012-July/006065.html
We promised to keep udev properly *running* as standalone, we never
told that it can be *build* standalone. And that still stands.
We never claimed, that all the surrounding things like documentation
always fully match, if only udev
in believing that gnome-3.8 (whether in testing as now, or
stable later) requires init=systemd? I am converting an old ~amd64
machine to systemd for practice so that I can convert my main laptop
(also ~amd64) to systemd. The purpose of the conversions is to run
gnome-3.8 and higher. I have
and should be corrected where seen.
It is solving the problem of *when* (not if - if the words I have read
from the systemd maintainers can be taken at face value) the systemd
maintainers decide to pull the plug on the ability to have a
systemd-less udev...
Then we will carry a minimal patchset
for a
system
booting with init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd ?
(I am building the initramsfs myself)
You need to get your root filesystem and /usr mounted. Just keep that
goal in mind and start adding files to support it.
There doesn't need to be anything systemd-specific.
I am not sure about
[I will be going to systemd since it is aparently required for
gnome-3.8. I first want to try systemd on a test system so am building
that one up.]
On my main system (currently running openrc) I have masked all of
gnome-3.8. I wonder if this was an error and I can remove the
mask
-apps/systemd-206-r3::gentoo (Change USE: +kmod)
virtual/udev-206-r2::gentoo (Change USE: -kmod)
Adding -kmod to the USE list gets 54 pkgs, incl systemd ,
which I've masked in package.mask with sys-fs/systemd.
--
,,
SUPPORT
Am 23.09.2013 13:00, schrieb Tanstaafl:
Man... watching this discussion just makes me want to avoid systemd like
the plague/all the more...
I understand that, yes ... it is unnecessary complex from my point of
view as well.
Swap that is encrypted from scratch everytime you boot up isn't
systemd-analyze blame to see what is taking so long.
systemd-delta to see what changes from upstream do you have.
Regards.
On Sep 24, 2013 4:47 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote:
Am 23.09.2013 16:30, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
Did you read my next email? There is no need
I want to downgrade systemd from 207-r2 to 204 (highest stable).
I currently have virtual/udev-206-r2 installed, which prevents
systemd-204.
OK. So I need to downgrade virtual/udev to 200.
I thought
emerge -1 =virtual/udev-200 =sys-apps/systemd-204
would do it. But this failed (see below
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Róbert Čerňanský ope...@tightmail.com wrote:
Hello all,
I am currently updating my system and Portage wants to replace udev
(204) with systemd (208). My question is (hopefully) simple:
Can I use systemd as drop-in replacement for udev? In other words, can
I
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On 12/06/2013 05:44 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote:
On Fri, December 6, 2013 08:53, Michael Hampicke wrote:
Just remove init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd from your kernel command line,
and you can boot
your old openrc installation (if you did un unmerge
On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 01:43:37 -0500
Jonathan Callen jcal...@gentoo.org wrote:
Udev as installed by sys-fs/udev is *exactly* the same as udev
installed by sys-apps/systemd, except that the latter installs more
files. It is very much possible to switch to systemd as your udev
provider without
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 7:23 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote:
For example, during bootup, systemd said that swap.target failed, but in
fact swap was working normally when I logged in, and systemctl status
swap.target showed no error messages.
systemd also warned that lvm.service failed
On 12/12/2013 07:01 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 7:23 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote:
For example, during bootup, systemd said that swap.target failed, but in
fact swap was working normally when I logged in, and systemctl status
swap.target showed no error messages
On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 20:07:16 -0500, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
Switched to systemd and all was well for weeks.
Then failure occurred (non-global ctrl_ifname).
Tried network-manager (NM) with no success.
New.
Canek told me off-list that, when using NM, you don't enable dhcpcd,
NM handles
On Wed, Jan 22 2014, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Jan 22, 2014 5:55 PM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
Today, on one amd64/systemd machine, I tried updating 3.10.17 to
3.10.25. As expected make oldconfig showed nothing new, so I thought
the new kernel would just work.
However gdm failed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-97qqUHwzGM
Just to share with you ...
Stefan (only saw ~9min of it until now)
On 05/02/2014 20:42, Joseph wrote:
I'm thinking you need systemd with the udev USE flag set.
--
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com
If I'm not mistaken my systemd is installed with gudev flag.
sys-apps/systemd-208-r2:0/1 USE=filecaps firmware-loader gudev
introspection kmod pam
On Wed, Feb 05 2014, Joseph wrote:
Thank you for correction. You are correct I would need to switch to
new systemd.
I think for now I'll go back to udev as I'm afraid something might not
work after switching :-/
Two comments.
1. Canek is *very* helpful on systemd issues.
2. If you have
On 16/02/14 18:41, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On 16/02/2014 17:46, Tanstaafl wrote:
On 2014-02-15 3:32 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
For Slackware, I have no idea. For Debian, no the only options were[1]:
1. sysvinit (status quo)
2. systemd
3. upstart
4. openrc (experimental
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 07:22:17 +0200
Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
How long has it been since Debian decided to go with systemd? Like,
three? So, up until three days ago I would have disagreed since
despite original upstream ditching ConsoleKit, it was still being
maintained
as well. That's why I propose a separate systemd
profile for those willing to use it.
Then write. Just be aware that to write a systemd profile, you need to
use systemd.
Or to create a non-systemd profile :)
That's the best response I've read in, like, many years. That's
perfect; I'm 100% behind
Am Dienstag, 18.02.2014 um 14:09
schrieb Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org:
I can't for the life of me think of any reason that server daemons
like postfix, dovecot, apache, etc would or could ever *require*
systemd.
Neither of those packages would ever require systemd (nor any init
On 31-Mar-2014 5:45 pm, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote:
Aside from all the discussions around systemd, I simply gave the new
systemd-networkd a try.
It helped me to simplify my config for my main machine where I run KVM
for virtualization and need a network bridge:
http
Am 15.04.2014 00:02, schrieb Pavel Volkov:
On Monday, 31 March 2014 16:14:44 MSK, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
Aside from all the discussions around systemd, I simply gave the new
systemd-networkd a try.
It helped me to simplify my config for my main machine where I run KVM
for virtualization
Am 13.05.2014 14:29, schrieb cov...@ccs.covici.com:
* What is the status now with dracut? The mentioned options ... I
don't have them in my config (although my setup is now completely
different from yours ... anyway).
I emerged it and want to use it to boot with systemd.
Did you configure
Am 15.05.2014 12:19, schrieb cov...@ccs.covici.com:
Sure, but what I was looking for was a way to start syslogd and klogd
using systemd -- I do have a socket option so they can listen on the
socket so that should be OK.
So you look for service files?
A quick google finds examples for these 2
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 03:50:04PM -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote
Hi. Well, I thought I was making progress with systemd, but my gnome
session kept saying oh no something has gone wrong and would not
work.
Heads-up... Lennart has the ears of the Gnome developers. Recent
Gnome
On 03/06/2014 16:29, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Silvio Siefke siefke_lis...@web.de wrote:
Hello,
mean this i must install now systemd? What can do when i not want systemd.
The system what i have is good, i want not change to systemd.
[ebuild U ~] sys
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On 06/04/2014 12:21 PM, wraeth wrote:
If you prefer, you could install systemd (note that having it installed
doesn't necessarily mean you use systemd as your init system) - see [1].
May help if I include my reference links... :|
[1] - https
wraeth wra...@wraeth.id.au [14-06-04 04:24]:
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On 06/04/2014 12:21 PM, wraeth wrote:
If you prefer, you could install systemd (note that having it installed
doesn't necessarily mean you use systemd as your init system) - see [1].
May help
migrates towards systemd. Perhaps a news item everytime
it happens is unrealistic?
Weren't you the one saying that those of us who were voicing concerns that
systemd proponents were ultimately wanting to FORCE systemd on everyone were
just scare-mongering conspiracy theorists?
Who is forcing
, systemd is not option
for people who runs openrc.
Indeed, I support the idea of having separate systemd profiles too,
could have simply
dropped a package.mask entry in base/ then, and then counter-effected it
in systemd
profiles
There is apparently an interest in building a profile which
On 05/06/14 14:11, Rich Freeman wrote:
On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 2:34 AM, Greg Woodbury redwo...@gmail.com wrote:
Unfortunately, the advocates and implementers made some major political
choices when they (apparently deliberately) chose to put the systemd
stuff in /usr/lib instead of /lib
On Fri, 2014-08-01 at 00:46 -0500, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
If you are using systemd, even better, use systemd-nswpan.
systemd-nspawn is quite a useful utility for working in a chroot -
almost a complete virtual machine without the overhead.
I also came across a handy introduction to it [1
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
[snip]
Now you use this to advertise for systemd?
Systemd fanbois are becoming more and more desperate.
So, systemd is used (or it has been announced that is going to be
used) by default in all the major
On 18/09/14 03:12, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote:
Mark David Dumlao wrote:
The code is out there. Freely available. Both systemd and sysvinit.
If you wanted to measure both, you could, literally, in the time it
took since you first posted in this thread till now you could have
measured several
On 19/09/14 03:18, Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2014-09-18, Alec Ten Harmsel a...@alectenharmsel.com wrote:
Mark David Dumlao wrote:
The code is out there. Freely available. Both systemd and sysvinit.
If you wanted to measure both, you could, literally, in the time it
took since you first posted
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Mark David Dumlao madum...@gmail.com wrote:
Point is he's trying to paint the picture that systemd folks rattle on and
on about its speed, but they don't.
The speed argument/anti-argument can be traced back to Lennart's first
blog post on systemd (IIRC
On Sep 24, 2014 2:34 AM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote:
Hello
PyTimeChart is another wonderful tool that complements
Ftrace/trace-cmd/KernelShark. [1] The systemd supporters would be keenly
wise if they added pytimechart to Gentoo, so those (systemd) reticent to
change, can actually
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Douglas J Hunley doug.hun...@gmail.com wrote:
I've noticed that newer releases of systemd unconditionally create
/var/log/journal if it doesn't exist. I'm getting tired of nuking this
directory after every upgrade of systemd.
This specific example is a bug; we
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 12:30 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote:
On Thursday, October 30, 2014 06:31:25 AM Rich Freeman wrote:
On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 3:56 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote:
On Sunday, October 26, 2014 02:16:24 PM Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
And with systemd
2014-11-11 14:56 GMT-06:00 Michael Mair-Keimberger m.mairkeimber...@gmail.com:
This lead me to my second question. At the wiki, the only way to create
an initramfs for systemd was with genkernel (genkernel --udev --lvm).
While the command itself is pretty useless (it's `genkernel --udev --lvm
Michael Mair-Keimberger m.mairkeimber...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi List,
Today I've started to play around with systemd but so far I couldn't get
it to boot. I've followed the how to from the gentoo wiki [1], but I
stuck somehow.
My configuration:
rootfs is on lvm2 (no encryption or raid). I
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 09:34:18AM +, Neil Bothwick wrote
On Sat, 15 Nov 2014 07:04:03 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
Since you have it, but don't run it, does USE=-systemd fix the issue?
Worth a try. If it does fix it I would consider it a bug since adding
systemd support should
Am 21.11.2014 um 08:17 schrieb Paige Thompson:
I just read an article that says systemd is taking over linux and linux
is not linux anymore:
http://blog.lusis.org/blog/2014/11/20/systemd-redux/
I kinda have to agree which is partially why I'm not using it. Will
Gentoo have any plans of forcing
borderline arrogant) answer...
To answer the OPs question correctly...
Since OpenRC is the *default* - for now at least - it is *king*, and
systemd is the red-headed step-child, and as such OpenRC is and will be
100% fully supported.
With that in mind, it is also 100% on the *systemd proponents
- this reference was actually to the way Debian is
handling it, not Gentoo - I have no problems whatsoever with the way
gentoo is handling systemd ... right now at least...
Gentoo has the advantage of being source-based and allowing 'USE=...
-systemd ...'.
If the Debianites opposed to using
Am 30.11.2014 um 17:39 schrieb Daniel Frey:
systemd most certainly is monolithic as well as modular. You can't run
journald without systemd and you most certainly can't replace journald
with a third party binary.
IMHO this type of discussion leads to nowhere. Of course you can view it
like
On Mon, 1 Dec 2014 20:46:54 + (UTC), James wrote:
I guess my take is that eventually, linux will be very small, embedded
and a cluster/cloud environment is where most systems will plug in,
kinda like most modern cell phones. Hopefully, there'll be a systemd
centric version so that enables
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