Re: [gentoo-user] Ansible, puppet and chef

2014-09-17 Thread Tomas Mozes
On 2014-09-16 22:43, Alan McKinnon wrote: Anyone here used ansible and at least one of puppet/chef? What are your thoughts? I've made several attempts over the years to get puppet going but never really got it off the ground. Chef I stay away from (likely due to the first demo of it I saw and

Re: [gentoo-user] Ansible, puppet and chef

2014-09-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 17/09/2014 03:30, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: We use bcfg2, and all I can say is to stay away. XML abuse runs rampant in bcfg2. From what I've heard from other professional sysadmins, Puppet is the favorite, but that's mostly conjecture. XML. Ugh. OSSEC works like that too. The software itself

Re: [gentoo-user] Ansible, puppet and chef

2014-09-17 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tuesday, September 16, 2014 10:43:18 PM Alan McKinnon wrote: Anyone here used ansible and at least one of puppet/chef? What are your thoughts? I've made several attempts over the years to get puppet going but never really got it off the ground. Chef I stay away from (likely due to the

Re: [gentoo-user] Ansible, puppet and chef

2014-09-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 17/09/2014 09:07, Tomas Mozes wrote: On 2014-09-16 22:43, Alan McKinnon wrote: Anyone here used ansible and at least one of puppet/chef? What are your thoughts? I've made several attempts over the years to get puppet going but never really got it off the ground. Chef I stay away from

Re: [gentoo-user] Ansible, puppet and chef

2014-09-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 17/09/2014 09:34, J. Roeleveld wrote: On Tuesday, September 16, 2014 10:43:18 PM Alan McKinnon wrote: Anyone here used ansible and at least one of puppet/chef? What are your thoughts? I've made several attempts over the years to get puppet going but never really got it off the ground.

Re: [gentoo-user] Ansible, puppet and chef

2014-09-17 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Wednesday, September 17, 2014 10:12:52 AM Alan McKinnon wrote: On 17/09/2014 09:34, J. Roeleveld wrote: On Tuesday, September 16, 2014 10:43:18 PM Alan McKinnon wrote: Anyone here used ansible and at least one of puppet/chef? What are your thoughts? I've made several attempts

Re: [gentoo-user] Ansible, puppet and chef

2014-09-17 Thread Eray Aslan
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 10:43:18PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Puppet seems to me a good product for a large site with 1000 hosts. Not so much for ~20 or so. I find that for a few machines, puppet is overkill. For a lot of machines, puppet can become unmanageable - with puppet master and

Re: [gentoo-user] Ansible, puppet and chef

2014-09-17 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Wednesday, September 17, 2014 12:19:37 PM Eray Aslan wrote: On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 10:43:18PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Puppet seems to me a good product for a large site with 1000 hosts. Not so much for ~20 or so. I find that for a few machines, puppet is overkill. For a lot of

Re: [gentoo-user] Ansible, puppet and chef

2014-09-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 17/09/2014 11:34, J. Roeleveld wrote: On Wednesday, September 17, 2014 12:19:37 PM Eray Aslan wrote: On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 10:43:18PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Puppet seems to me a good product for a large site with 1000 hosts. Not so much for ~20 or so. I find that for a few

Re: [gentoo-user] Ansible, puppet and chef

2014-09-17 Thread Tomas Mozes
On 2014-09-17 14:07, Alan McKinnon wrote: Nagios btw has the same problem hence why I'm switching to Icinga 2 which fixes Nagios's config language once and for all. Or you can use hostgroups/templates and have all your configuration in files and in git. Depends what you like more.

Re: [gentoo-user] Ansible, puppet and chef

2014-09-17 Thread Tomas Mozes
On 2014-09-17 10:08, Alan McKinnon wrote: That's almost exactly the same setup I have in mind. How complex do the playbooks get in real-life? The common role has about 70 tasks. It does almost everything covered in the handbook plus installs and configures additional stuff like postfix,

Re: [gentoo-user] Ansible, puppet and chef

2014-09-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 17/09/2014 14:46, Tomas Mozes wrote: On 2014-09-17 10:08, Alan McKinnon wrote: That's almost exactly the same setup I have in mind. How complex do the playbooks get in real-life? The common role has about 70 tasks. It does almost everything covered in the handbook plus installs and

Re: [gentoo-user] Ansible, puppet and chef

2014-09-16 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel
We use bcfg2, and all I can say is to stay away. XML abuse runs rampant in bcfg2. From what I've heard from other professional sysadmins, Puppet is the favorite, but that's mostly conjecture. Alec On 09/16/2014 04:43 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: Anyone here used ansible and at least one of