Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Virtualization
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Nick Khamissym...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Guys, I really apperciate your help but as it sits I am unable to compile vmware-server 1.x or XEN. I have attached the build log. Basically I know I can larman the new version of vmware-server2 but I heard it is a clunker. I really need to get virtual servers up on the server before I get fired ;) :) lol. Hi, vmware is very touchy when it comes to the kernel version you're using. If you want to use an older vmware you should use an older kernel, too. If you want to use the newest kernels you should use vmware overlay and emerge the latest vmware stuff. :) At least that's my experience with it.
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Virtualization
Basicly, you dont have a chance - 2.6.30 is incompatible with legacy vmware. Each vmware version builds against only a restricted range of kernels, and usually lags a few versions behind even with the latest. Your choices are: 1. downgrade the kernel to something compatible with your vmware version 2. upgrade your vmware to something that builds against a later kernel. 3. as vmware sells licenced, commercial versions, pay them to fix it for you. BillK On Sat, 2009-09-05 at 13:45 +, Nick Khamis wrote: Hey Guys, I really apperciate your help but as it sits I am unable to compile vmware-server 1.x or XEN. I have attached the build log. Basically I know I can larman the new version of vmware-server2 but I heard it is a clunker. I really need to get virtual servers up on the server before I get fired ;) :) lol. Thanks in Advanced, Ninus -- William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au Home in Perth!
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Virtualization
On Sat, 2009-09-05 at 02:40 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Samstag 05 September 2009, Nick Khamis wrote: Hello Everyone, I am having no luck at all trying to emerge vmware-server 1.0.9 using kernel .30 r5. I know vmware 2 can be instlled easily using layman but I do not want that clunker on this 16 core server. The show must go on... what is my safest bet XEN? I need an emulator that can handle running mutliper virtual machines at once. I need something that is as stable as possible. Any suggestion? For those who may have some advice regarding the vmware-server error I am getting here it is, however; I am starting to lose fate in vmwre 1.0.9: The die message: * Unable to emake HOSTCC=i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc CROSS_COMPILE=i686-pc-linux-gnu- LDFLAGS= auto-build VMWARE_VER=VME_S1B1 KERNEL_DIR=/usr/src/linux KBUILD_OUTPUT=/lib/modules/2.6.30-gentoo-r5/build Thanks in Advnaced, Ninus virtualbox? I was/am using 2 instances of VB on a dual core on gentoo with fedora inside - works well, though loading is mostly light but I have run some tests with heavy loads and nothing broke. Mostly used to offer snmp access for students to test against. Last year I ran vmware player and that was ok, but a real pain with the vmware-tools, module support and lagging kernel support creating issues. This year I gave up trying to get it to upgrade and run after 2-3 days work - installed VB and was in operation soon after. VB upgrades just seem to work. I have qemu (with kqemu) at home, VB, and vmware machines at work - qemu is the easiest to manage, but VB isnt far behind, and seems fastest with best feature set. Cloning is a bit more involved than vmware - export and reload under a different name rather than just copy, but it works. I am seriously considering dropping vmware at work due to its continual, ongoing pain ... Not relevant here is it also has Mac versions - there is no free Mac vmware-player. Been using vmware on gentoo for windows and linux variants since version 1 ... BillK -- William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au Home in Perth!
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Virtualization
On Sat, 2009-09-05 at 13:58 +0800, Xi Shen wrote: xen requires your cpu support hardware virtulization. and i only heard it support windows, but i do not know how well it supports. Both statements are so very far from the truth: Firstly, PV Xen guests require no hardware virtualization support, run at near-native performance and require very little resources from the host since it doesn't have to emulate hardware. Secondly you can run *many* PV-enabled OS's but not Windows. Windows is actually one of the guests that you can't run para-virtualized and for that you *do* need virtualization support in the hardware. if you like vmware, why do not try vmware-server 2.0. it is in the overlay, and it works very well for me. But what I don't understand is, why aren't people using KVM/virt-manager*? It's smaller and faster than VMWare Server, at least the last time I used VMWare. Since switching to KVM I haven't looked back. * KVM does require hardware virtualization support, but since 2006 I haven't purchased a machine that *didn't* have support for it.
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Virtualization
On Saturday 05 September 2009 07:58:22 Xi Shen wrote: xen requires your cpu support hardware virtulization. and i only heard it support windows, but i do not know how well it supports. This is utterly and completely wrong on so many levels it doesn't deserve an explanation. Just forget you ever heard that statement. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Virtualization
haha, some one has found that my english is not very good. sorry, i made the sentence too short, and did not made myself clear. of course i know the PV thing about xen. but for many people who want to use virtualization on linux, they want to run windows on it too, especially for linux desktop usage. yes, kvm is very fast and small. but i still choose vmware, because my old machine does not support VT. ;( if you have a old machine, and you want to run windows on it, i think linux+vmware-server is really a good solution. On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Alan McKinnonalan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday 05 September 2009 07:58:22 Xi Shen wrote: xen requires your cpu support hardware virtulization. and i only heard it support windows, but i do not know how well it supports. This is utterly and completely wrong on so many levels it doesn't deserve an explanation. Just forget you ever heard that statement. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- Best Regards, David Shen http://twitter.com/davidshen84
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Virtualization
Hey Guys, I really apperciate your help but as it sits I am unable to compile vmware-server 1.x or XEN. I have attached the build log. Basically I know I can larman the new version of vmware-server2 but I heard it is a clunker. I really need to get virtual servers up on the server before I get fired ;) :) lol. Thanks in Advanced, Ninus build.log Description: Binary data
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Virtualization
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 17:21:57 + Nick Khamis sym...@gmail.com wrote: I do not meean to be persistent regarding this problem LOL!!! -- Michael Higgins
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Virtualization
On Saturday 05 September 2009 19:21:57 Nick Khamis wrote: Hello Group, I do not meean to be persistent regarding this problem So you are being accidentally persistent then? And not doing it deliberately? but I am unable to emerge vmware-server or xen. the error I am experioencing is attached at a the build.log. Environment: x86, 2.6.30-r5 Your Help is Greatly Appreciated, Why are you trying to use an old vmware version on the almost very latest kernel version? If you know anything about the kernel development process and the vmware development/release process, you will know that what you are trying to do is just never ever going to work. SO STOP TRYING!! Do one of these options: 1. Use latest unstable vmware with the last unstable kernel that builds 2. Use stable vmware with latest stable kernel that builds There is no third option. Stop looking for one. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Virtualization
Do any of the emulators work with 2.6.30r5 kernel? I am not bound to only vmware, what about XEN, VirtualBox etc... Thanks In Advnaced, Ninus.
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Virtualization
On Sep 5, 2009, at 2:17 PM, Nick Khamis wrote:
Do any of the emulators work with 2.6.30r5 kernel? I am not bound to
only vmware, what about XEN, VirtualBox etc...
Thanks In Advnaced,
Ninus.
VMWare 2.x is your best bet
Sat Sep 5 14:19:26 2009
dsni...@cabernet ~
$ eix -I vmware-server; eix -I vmware-modules; uname -r
[I] app-emulation/vmware-server
Available versions: [m]1.0.8.126538!s [m]1.0.9.156507!s
[m]1.0.9.156507!s[1] ~2.0.1.156745!s ~2.0.1.156745!s[1] ~2.0.1.156745-
r1!s (~)2.0.1.156745-r2!s
Installed versions: 2.0.1.156745-r2!s(10:41:00 09/01/09)
Homepage:http://www.vmware.com/
Description: VMware Server for Linux
[1] vmware /usr/portage/local/layman/vmware
[I] app-emulation/vmware-modules
Available versions: [m]1.0.0.15-r1 [m]1.0.0.15-r2 [m]1.0.0.15-
r2[1] 1.0.0.23 ~1.0.0.23-r1 1.0.0.23-r1[1] (~)1.0.0.24 ~1.0.0.25
{kernel_linux}
Installed versions: 1.0.0.24(22:31:31 09/01/09)(kernel_linux)
Homepage:http://www.vmware.com/
Description: Modules for Vmware Programs
[1] vmware /usr/portage/local/layman/vmware
2.6.30-gentoo-r4
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Virtualization
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 20:17:30 +, Nick Khamis wrote: Do any of the emulators work with 2.6.30r5 kernel? I am not bound to only vmware, what about XEN, VirtualBox etc... VMware Workstation and VirtualBox work with ~gentoo-sources-2.6.30 here. -- Neil Bothwick It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Virtualization
Hey Neil, I tried to compile virtualbox using intructions here http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/VirtualBox;. And it was unsuccesful, I have attached the build.log Regards, Ninus. build.log Description: Binary data
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Virtualization
On Samstag 05 September 2009, Nick Khamis wrote: Hello Everyone, I am having no luck at all trying to emerge vmware-server 1.0.9 using kernel .30 r5. I know vmware 2 can be instlled easily using layman but I do not want that clunker on this 16 core server. The show must go on... what is my safest bet XEN? I need an emulator that can handle running mutliper virtual machines at once. I need something that is as stable as possible. Any suggestion? For those who may have some advice regarding the vmware-server error I am getting here it is, however; I am starting to lose fate in vmwre 1.0.9: The die message: * Unable to emake HOSTCC=i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc CROSS_COMPILE=i686-pc-linux-gnu- LDFLAGS= auto-build VMWARE_VER=VME_S1B1 KERNEL_DIR=/usr/src/linux KBUILD_OUTPUT=/lib/modules/2.6.30-gentoo-r5/build Thanks in Advnaced, Ninus virtualbox?
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Virtualization
I was thinking XEN how will that par up compared to virtualbox?
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Virtualization
On Samstag 05 September 2009, Nick Khamis wrote: I was thinking XEN how will that par up compared to virtualbox? I don't know. I never tried xen and I try to stay away from it.
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Virtualization
xen requires your cpu support hardware virtulization. and i only heard it support windows, but i do not know how well it supports. if you like vmware, why do not try vmware-server 2.0. it is in the overlay, and it works very well for me. On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Volker Armin Hemmannvolkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: On Samstag 05 September 2009, Nick Khamis wrote: I was thinking XEN how will that par up compared to virtualbox? I don't know. I never tried xen and I try to stay away from it. -- Best Regards, David Shen http://twitter.com/davidshen84
