Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.1 apps render slowly

2008-08-11 Thread Dirk Uys
On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 9:14 PM, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You nasty horrible terrible man you. Did you have to remind me of that? :-)

 Notebook was delivered 10 days ago on a Friday. That night I read the post
 about it on slashdot. I'm so pissed about this card that I'm tending to ignore
 it and hope the problems will go away (which they won't...)


 It's a mobo :-(   That means a motherboard replacement and I don't know what
 Dell SA's position is on this. I'll have to check with the company account
 manager, but I think my only recourse is going to be a Keep the customer
 happy! internal POV. That and the fact that we buy truckloads of their
 servers, and a standard 40% discount across the board on all Dell products.
 Wish me luck


 --
 alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



You always have the option to keep using KDE 3.5.x until your driver
problems are resolved. KDE4.1 is nice, but not a must have to get work
done in most cases.

Good luck in any case!

Dirk



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.1 apps render slowly

2008-08-09 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag, 9. August 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 Hi all,

 This post might be a bit vague, sorry about that, I'm not sure where to
 start or how to explain it.

 New laptop with nVidia GeForce 8600. Arch ~amd64, emerged kde-meta-4.1, but
 it renders exceptionally slowly on the screen when scrolling.

*lol* sorry but - yeah, this is a known problem with the nvidia 8XXX and 9XXX 
series. Their drivers is broken.
KDE has a big article about it in their techbase. Also:
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=115916 
(nVidia 8000/9000 Series Performance Issues)

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=117043
(Please stop that bashing...)

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=109990
(KDE4 almost unuseable)


 The effect is
 as if something is keeping the system very busy while input actions occur:

 It can take 30 secs to scroll slashdot's front page from top to bottom.

yepp

 Any web page displayed in akregator inside kontact is even slower.

yepp

 When kwallet pops up asking for the master password, it misses keystrokes
 when typing at normal speed.

oh yes.

 Scrolling through a long mail in kmail is slightly slower than normal, but
 scrolling the same mail in a reply window is full speed.

mhm

 Konqueror in split-window mode takes a few seconds to react when navigating
 through directories.

yepp. 


 Can anyone point me in the direction of a nice howto or the correct tools
 to figure out what's going on here?


and typing something into a forum has several seconds of lag, desktop menu 
takes seconds to appear and more seconds to react to input, 

see the links above. In short, you are screwed. There is no real remedy until 
Nvidia fixes their broken drivers. Some stuff might help a bit - but most of 
the time one thing gets slightly better and another one a lot worse. The only 
good news: there is nothing wrong with your system.



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.1 apps render slowly

2008-08-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 09 August 2008 10:54:15 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 On Samstag, 9. August 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  This post might be a bit vague, sorry about that, I'm not sure where to
  start or how to explain it.
 
  New laptop with nVidia GeForce 8600. Arch ~amd64, emerged kde-meta-4.1,
  but it renders exceptionally slowly on the screen when scrolling.

 *lol* sorry but - yeah, this is a known problem with the nvidia 8XXX and
 9XXX series. Their drivers is broken.

So in other words, the short version:

up creek, no paddle

sigh

[snip]

 see the links above. In short, you are screwed. There is no real remedy
 until Nvidia fixes their broken drivers. Some stuff might help a bit - but
 most of the time one thing gets slightly better and another one a lot
 worse. The only good news: there is nothing wrong with your system.

Well that's good to know at least. The bummer is that I speced this laptop 
based on what I knew about nvidia's stuff. Nothing wrong in that, I was just 
18 months out of date!

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.1 apps render slowly

2008-08-09 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag, 9. August 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote:


  see the links above. In short, you are screwed. There is no real remedy
  until Nvidia fixes their broken drivers. Some stuff might help a bit -
  but most of the time one thing gets slightly better and another one a lot
  worse. The only good news: there is nothing wrong with your system.

 Well that's good to know at least. The bummer is that I speced this laptop
 based on what I knew about nvidia's stuff. Nothing wrong in that, I was
 just 18 months out of date!

so you don't know about the 'nvidia mobile gpus dying like flies' problem?


http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/07/31/hp-pays-half-nvidia-
problems

just read the links in the text and below. Maybe you can still get a different 
one...?



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE-4.1 apps render slowly

2008-08-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 09 August 2008 21:03:37 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 On Samstag, 9. August 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote:
   see the links above. In short, you are screwed. There is no real remedy
   until Nvidia fixes their broken drivers. Some stuff might help a bit -
   but most of the time one thing gets slightly better and another one a
   lot worse. The only good news: there is nothing wrong with your system.
 
  Well that's good to know at least. The bummer is that I speced this
  laptop based on what I knew about nvidia's stuff. Nothing wrong in that,
  I was just 18 months out of date!

 so you don't know about the 'nvidia mobile gpus dying like flies' problem?

You nasty horrible terrible man you. Did you have to remind me of that? :-)

Notebook was delivered 10 days ago on a Friday. That night I read the post 
about it on slashdot. I'm so pissed about this card that I'm tending to ignore 
it and hope the problems will go away (which they won't...)

 http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/07/31/hp-pays-half-nvidia-
 problems

 just read the links in the text and below. Maybe you can still get a
 different one...?

It's a mobo :-(   That means a motherboard replacement and I don't know what 
Dell SA's position is on this. I'll have to check with the company account 
manager, but I think my only recourse is going to be a Keep the customer 
happy! internal POV. That and the fact that we buy truckloads of their 
servers, and a standard 40% discount across the board on all Dell products. 
Wish me luck


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com