Re: [gentoo-user] Networkmanager and gnome-3.6 (negating a default USE)
On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 20:44:18 -0400, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: I just did it again with cut and paste from above. Now the end of make.conf is (from cut and paste) FEATURES= buildsyspkg USE=-networkmanager and I still get newlap gottlieb # emerge --depclean networkmanager Calculating dependencies... done! net-misc/networkmanager-0.9.8.2 pulled in by: gnome-base/gnome-control-center-3.6.3-r1 requires =net-misc/networkmanager-0.8.997 gnome-base/gnome-shell-3.6.3.1 requires =net-misc/networkmanager-0.8.999[introspection] gnome-extra/nm-applet-0.9.6.4-r1 requires =net-misc/networkmanager-0.9.6 net-libs/libsocialweb-0.25.21 requires net-misc/networkmanager Did you do emerge --update --deep --changed-use --ask @world after changing make.conf? Changing the USE flag there doesn't change the flags that those packages were built with. They will need to be rebuilt without NM support before portage allows you to depclean it. -- Neil Bothwick WinErr 00F: Unexplained error - Please tell us how this happened signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Networkmanager and gnome-3.6 (negating a default USE)
On Wed, Jul 17 2013, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 20:44:18 -0400, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: I just did it again with cut and paste from above. Now the end of make.conf is (from cut and paste) FEATURES= buildsyspkg USE=-networkmanager and I still get newlap gottlieb # emerge --depclean networkmanager Calculating dependencies... done! net-misc/networkmanager-0.9.8.2 pulled in by: gnome-base/gnome-control-center-3.6.3-r1 requires =net-misc/networkmanager-0.8.997 gnome-base/gnome-shell-3.6.3.1 requires =net-misc/networkmanager-0.8.999[introspection] gnome-extra/nm-applet-0.9.6.4-r1 requires =net-misc/networkmanager-0.9.6 net-libs/libsocialweb-0.25.21 requires net-misc/networkmanager Did you do emerge --update --deep --changed-use --ask @world after changing make.conf? Changing the USE flag there doesn't change the flags that those packages were built with. They will need to be rebuilt without NM support before portage allows you to depclean it. Right. Our msgs outlining the problem and its soln crossed in the mail. The above was indeed the problem and the required fix. thanks as always, allan
Re: [gentoo-user] Networkmanager and gnome-3.6 (negating a default USE)
在 2013-7-16 下午9:50， gottl...@nyu.edu写道： (This is not a msg about networkmanager's quality.) My main system is ~amd64 and runs gnome-3.6. I wanted to experiment with removing networkmanager. I do not have networkmanager in world and did not have it in make.conf. However gnome-3.6 by default pulls it in. For example gnome-control-center-3.6.3-r1.ebuild contains IUSE=+bluetooth +colord +cups +gnome-online-accounts +i18n input_devices_wacom kerberos +networkmanager +socialweb systemd v4l and COMMON_DEPEND= ... networkmanager? ( =gnome-extra/nm-applet-0.9.1.90 =net-misc/networkmanager-0.8.997 ) I believe the first says that if the networkmanager use flag is neither set nor unset, treat it as set and the second says if the use flag is set (or treated as set), require net-misc/networkmanager. I don't see how to have the flag unset since its default is set. For example, editing make.conf to add USE=-networkmanager (I had no USE in make.conf previously) has no effect since networkmanager was not in USE before. How do I specify that the networkmanager USE flag is explicitly unset (rather than just not explicitly set). thanks, allan Just write a package.use file to handle that.
Re: [gentoo-user] Networkmanager and gnome-3.6 (negating a default USE)
On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 09:49:42 -0400, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: nome-control-center-3.6.3-r1.ebuild contains IUSE=+bluetooth +colord +cups +gnome-online-accounts +i18n input_devices_wacom kerberos +networkmanager +socialweb systemd v4l and COMMON_DEPEND= ... networkmanager? ( =gnome-extra/nm-applet-0.9.1.90 =net-misc/networkmanager-0.8.997 ) I believe the first says that if the networkmanager use flag is neither set nor unset, treat it as set and the second says if the use flag is set (or treated as set), require net-misc/networkmanager. That's correct. The + just means it defaults to on, instead of the usual off default for USE flags. I don't see how to have the flag unset since its default is set. For example, editing make.conf to add USE=-networkmanager (I had no USE in make.conf previously) has no effect That should do exactly what you want, although you can do it in /etc/portage/package.use too (although that makes no sense in this case as the decision on which network manager to use must be global). Are you sure that you have spelled the USE flag correctly, that one has wasted significant chunks of my life before now 9and will probably do so again in the future). since networkmanager was not in USE before. This is irrelevant. No USE flags are in make.conf until you put them there. -- Neil Bothwick In the begining, there was nothing. And God said Let there be light and there was light. There was still nothing, but you could see it better. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Networkmanager and gnome-3.6 (negating a default USE)
On Tue, Jul 16 2013, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 09:49:42 -0400, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: gnome-control-center-3.6.3-r1.ebuild contains IUSE=+bluetooth +colord +cups +gnome-online-accounts +i18n input_devices_wacom kerberos +networkmanager +socialweb systemd v4l and COMMON_DEPEND= ... networkmanager? ( =gnome-extra/nm-applet-0.9.1.90 =net-misc/networkmanager-0.8.997 ) I believe the first says that if the networkmanager use flag is neither set nor unset, treat it as set and the second says if the use flag is set (or treated as set), require net-misc/networkmanager. That's correct. The + just means it defaults to on, instead of the usual off default for USE flags. I don't see how to have the flag unset since its default is set. For example, editing make.conf to add USE=-networkmanager (I had no USE in make.conf previously) has no effect That should do exactly what you want, although you can do it in /etc/portage/package.use too (although that makes no sense in this case as the decision on which network manager to use must be global). Are you sure that you have spelled the USE flag correctly, that one has wasted significant chunks of my life before now 9and will probably do so again in the future). I just did it again with cut and paste from above. Now the end of make.conf is (from cut and paste) FEATURES= buildsyspkg USE=-networkmanager and I still get newlap gottlieb # emerge --depclean networkmanager Calculating dependencies... done! net-misc/networkmanager-0.9.8.2 pulled in by: gnome-base/gnome-control-center-3.6.3-r1 requires =net-misc/networkmanager-0.8.997 gnome-base/gnome-shell-3.6.3.1 requires =net-misc/networkmanager-0.8.999[introspection] gnome-extra/nm-applet-0.9.6.4-r1 requires =net-misc/networkmanager-0.9.6 net-libs/libsocialweb-0.25.21 requires net-misc/networkmanager To be sure that make.conf was being consulted, I tried it with a fictitious flag joeee, which worked and then with -joeee which didn't work. That is, putting -joeee in make.conf results in *neither* joeee or -joeee in the USE printed by emerge --info since networkmanager was not in USE before. This is irrelevant. No USE flags are in make.conf until you put them there. My wording here was bad. I meant that networkmanager was not in the USE shown by emerge --sync and apparently (to my surprise) specifying -foo in make.conf only removes USEs from the emerge --sync listing and does not insert -foo into the emerge --sync USE, assuming that neither foo nor -foo was originally in emerge --sync USE. I am sure I am doing something wrong since I agree that USE=-networkmanager in make.conf should be just what is needed, but I don't think it is just my misspelling networkmanager. allan
Re: [gentoo-user] Networkmanager and gnome-3.6 (negating a default USE)
On Tue, Jul 16 2013, Wang Xuerui wrote: 在 2013-7-16 下午9:50， gottl...@nyu.edu写道： How do I specify that the networkmanager USE flag is explicitly unset (rather than just not explicitly set). thanks, allan Just write a package.use file to handle that. Thanks, but I would need many entries since the flag is relevant to many packages and I would need to be sure to add entries as packages change (I don't think it would be wise to have some, but not all, packages merged with that USE flag). That is why I want to do it in make.conf. allan PS. I actually have a package.use directory; with a number of files turning USEs on.
Re: [gentoo-user] Networkmanager and gnome-3.6 (negating a default USE)
On Tue, Jul 16 2013, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: I am sure I am doing something wrong since I agree that USE=-networkmanager in make.conf should be just what is needed, but I don't think it is just my misspelling networkmanager. Mystery solved. The line above does indeed work in that an update world with --newuse does reinstall apps without the networkmanager USE flag. I was testing the line above with emerge --depclean networkmanager and that is the wrong test. It is only after I do the update world so that the -networkmanager USE takes affect, that I can hope to for the --depclean to take affect. thanks to all. allan
