Re: [gentoo-user] WARNING dev-libs/icu-49.1 is BAD

2012-04-05 Thread Daniel Troeder
On 04.04.2012 20:12, Allan Gottlieb wrote:
 Another scare.  No emacs, no apache, gnome in trouble ...
 
 don't install icu-49.1
 
 I was going to file a bug but I see that there are a few stating that
 some things fail with 49.1 so I don't know that my adding to the list
 will help.
 
 To see the list just ask for
 
 ALL icu
 
 I now have to reinstall everything that was installed after icu, or at
 least try them to see if they fail.
 
 allan
 
Why can't ebuilds like icu be made like openssl or openldap where the
libs are not replaced, but old libs stay and a text is displayed to use
redep-rebuild and afterwards rm the old libs?

That way software doesn't suddenly brake until you reemerge half your
desktop/servers (only to reemerge everything again the next day, because
that lib gets suddenly masked).

I like the behavior of openldap and openssl, I'd like to have that for
gfx-libs that brake the desktop (like icu) too.

Please, please do it dear gentoo devs :)

Daniel


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Re: [gentoo-user] WARNING dev-libs/icu-49.1 is BAD

2012-04-05 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 11:36:54 +0200, Daniel Troeder wrote:

 Why can't ebuilds like icu be made like openssl or openldap where the
 libs are not replaced, but old libs stay and a text is displayed to use
 redep-rebuild and afterwards rm the old libs?

They are, the old libs stay around until you emerge @preserved-rebuild... 
and then everything breaks.

 That way software doesn't suddenly brake until you reemerge half your
 desktop/servers (only to reemerge everything again the next day, because
 that lib gets suddenly masked).

In an ideal world, broken software wouldn't be released at all, but ~arch
is called testing for a reason and we have now tested icu-49.


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Re: [gentoo-user] WARNING dev-libs/icu-49.1 is BAD

2012-04-05 Thread Daniel Troeder
On 05.04.2012 14:51, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 11:36:54 +0200, Daniel Troeder wrote:
 
 Why can't ebuilds like icu be made like openssl or openldap where the
 libs are not replaced, but old libs stay and a text is displayed to use
 redep-rebuild and afterwards rm the old libs?
 
 They are, the old libs stay around until you emerge @preserved-rebuild... 
 and then everything breaks.
Revisited my aliases and saw that that's exactly what I did... *blushes*



Re: [gentoo-user] WARNING dev-libs/icu-49.1 is BAD

2012-04-05 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 16:28:45 +0200, Daniel Troeder wrote:

  Why can't ebuilds like icu be made like openssl or openldap where the
  libs are not replaced, but old libs stay and a text is displayed to
  use redep-rebuild and afterwards rm the old libs?  
  
  They are, the old libs stay around until you emerge
  @preserved-rebuild... and then everything breaks.  

 Revisited my aliases and saw that that's exactly what I did... *blushes*

Remember this is Gentoo, it may tell you the command to run to break your
system, but it leaves you to create the mess yourself - none of the
namby-pamby automated wreckage you get with the brown distro!


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Re: [gentoo-user] WARNING dev-libs/icu-49.1 is BAD

2012-04-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 14:12:58 -0400, Allan Gottlieb wrote:

 I now have to reinstall everything that was installed after icu, or at
 least try them to see if they fail.

I installed LibreOffice and Chromium after icu, LO seems to work but
Chromium was useless.


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Re: [gentoo-user] WARNING dev-libs/icu-49.1 is BAD

2012-04-04 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Wed, Apr 04 2012, Neil Bothwick wrote:

 On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 14:12:58 -0400, Allan Gottlieb wrote:

 I now have to reinstall everything that was installed after icu, or at
 least try them to see if they fail.

 I installed LibreOffice and Chromium after icu, LO seems to work but
 Chromium was useless.

There is a bug about chromium and the new icu.
For me libreoffice wouldn't build with the new icu.
Since I have now fixed up everything else, I will try again with LO.

allan