Re: [gentoo-user] ext3 with errors
On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 22:56:50 +0100 Neil Bothwick wrote: Hello Arnau Bria, Hi Neil, [...] Create a two disk RAID1 using only your existing disk, marking the other disk missing. Then add your new disk and the RAID will automatically update it from the first disk. I'll do so. Thanks for your reply. Arnau -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ext3 with errors
Arnau Bria schrieb: Hi, My system runs on several ext3 partitions. Last times I restart it, it has fs errors, so I have to fsck it. Now, I have a new disk and I want to set a RAID1, but first, I'm wondering what to do to save my fs consistency. So, I want to copy data from old disk to new disk, but I'm not sure if I must do a cp -a or a dd. I mean, if I do a cp -a my new disk will have a new journaling, and if I do a dd, new disk will have same. Am I right? What do you recommend? And, following with this, any guide to configure a RAID1 with a system already installed? TIA, Arnau Just a small note: When you are using cp -a, keep in mind that something like cp -a /home/user/* doesn't fetch files and folders that are hidden (for example .vimrc). I've lost all my settings that way when I migrated my /home :( -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ext3 with errors
Florian Philipp wrote: Arnau Bria schrieb: Hi, My system runs on several ext3 partitions. Last times I restart it, it has fs errors, so I have to fsck it. Now, I have a new disk and I want to set a RAID1, but first, I'm wondering what to do to save my fs consistency. So, I want to copy data from old disk to new disk, but I'm not sure if I must do a cp -a or a dd. I mean, if I do a cp -a my new disk will have a new journaling, and if I do a dd, new disk will have same. Am I right? What do you recommend? And, following with this, any guide to configure a RAID1 with a system already installed? TIA, Arnau Just a small note: When you are using cp -a, keep in mind that something like cp -a /home/user/* doesn't fetch files and folders that are hidden (for example .vimrc). I've lost all my settings that way when I migrated my /home :( That's odd, mine does. That's what I use to do back-ups on my system and it get all the .* files and directories. I have my back-up mounted at /mnt/gentoo and this is a list of my root user directory: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # ls -al /mnt/gentoo/root/ total 1128 drwx-- 29 root root 4096 2007-09-29 00:54 . drwxr-xr-x 15 root root 4096 2007-09-29 01:26 .. -rw--- 1 root root 11467 2007-09-27 15:15 .bash_history -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11 2006-10-01 21:39 .bash_login -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11 2006-10-01 21:39 .bash_logout drwx-- 2 root root 4096 2007-05-03 07:21 .ccache -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4487 2004-05-10 07:37 CFLAGS-script -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 40304 2007-01-08 04:21 config drwx-- 3 root root 4096 2007-03-18 06:11 .config -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 43453 2007-06-25 23:09 config-2-6-20-r8 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1045 2006-11-18 03:07 cruft.removal -rw-r--r-- 1 root root279 2005-12-20 13:57 dalek.revoke -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1360 2007-08-29 06:38 Data.kdar -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 55 2007-09-27 17:47 .DCOPserver_smoker__0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 27 2007-09-29 00:54 .DCOPserver_smoker_:0 - /root/.DCOPserver_smoker__0 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 32520 2007-04-10 03:16 dead.letter drwx-- 2 root root 4096 2007-09-09 04:50 Desktop drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2007-01-19 04:56 .distcc -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 10213 2006-09-04 04:03 elog -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3011 2006-10-30 03:25 elog-list -rw-r--r-- 1 root root877 2006-09-10 15:38 emerge-script drwxr-xr-x 2 500 500 4096 2005-07-18 15:59 enotice-0.2.9.1_alpha -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 25347 2006-04-20 22:46 etc-portclean -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root768 2006-10-20 01:52 fahback -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 153361 2006-10-18 01:43 finstall4.9 drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2006-10-20 01:52 foldingathome -rw-r--r-- 1 root root854 2007-01-29 17:41 .fonts.cache-1 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1256 2006-08-22 00:12 fragck.pl drwx-- 2 root root 4096 2007-08-07 13:45 .gconf drwx-- 2 root root 4096 2007-08-07 13:59 .gconfd -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 8240 2006-09-05 18:50 genscript.sh drwxr-xr-x 21 root root 4096 2007-09-18 22:41 .gimp-2.2 drwx-- 3 root root 4096 2006-12-09 14:17 .gnome2 drwx-- 2 root root 4096 2006-12-09 14:17 .gnome2_private drwx-- 2 root root 4096 2006-12-11 22:51 .gphoto drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-11-29 00:49 .gstreamer-0.8 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 67 2007-09-23 21:34 .hplip.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root544 2007-07-31 06:58 .htoprc -rw--- 1 root root 2284 2007-09-27 17:47 .ICEauthority drwx-- 3 root root 4096 2006-11-27 00:03 .kde -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2006-08-03 09:23 .keep -rw--- 1 root root 35 2007-07-30 04:05 .lesshst drwx-- 3 root root 4096 2006-09-14 04:03 .local drwx-- 3 root root 4096 2007-09-18 22:15 .macromedia drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2006-09-14 04:04 .mcop -rw--- 1 root root 31 2007-09-28 04:16 .mcoprc -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 35 2007-06-03 00:18 minicom.log drwx-- 3 root root 4096 2006-12-17 02:37 .mozilla drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-06-13 13:15 .mplayer drwx-- 3 root root 4096 2007-08-18 17:48 .ooo-2.0 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 23540 2004-05-10 08:20 prune-script drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-09-13 22:51 .qt -rw--- 1 root root 14491 2007-09-18 22:41 .recently-used -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 31133 2007-05-02 13:18 recompile-remaining-packages drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-05-12 23:00 rep4.py -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1232 2007-09-26 02:06 .revdep-rebuild.0_env -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 377327 2007-09-26 02:06 .revdep-rebuild.1_files -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 18877 2007-09-26 02:06 .revdep-rebuild.2_ldpath -rw-r--r-- 1 root root105 2007-09-26 02:10 .revdep-rebuild.3_rebuild -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2007-09-26 02:10 .revdep-rebuild.4_ebuilds -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2 2007-09-26 02:10 .revdep-rebuild.5a_status -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2 2007-09-26 02:10 .revdep-rebuild.5b_status -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2007-09-26 02:10 .revdep-rebuild.5_order -rw-r--r--
Re: [gentoo-user] ext3 with errors
Dale schrieb: Florian Philipp wrote: Arnau Bria schrieb: Hi, My system runs on several ext3 partitions. Last times I restart it, it has fs errors, so I have to fsck it. Now, I have a new disk and I want to set a RAID1, but first, I'm wondering what to do to save my fs consistency. So, I want to copy data from old disk to new disk, but I'm not sure if I must do a cp -a or a dd. I mean, if I do a cp -a my new disk will have a new journaling, and if I do a dd, new disk will have same. Am I right? What do you recommend? And, following with this, any guide to configure a RAID1 with a system already installed? TIA, Arnau Just a small note: When you are using cp -a, keep in mind that something like cp -a /home/user/* doesn't fetch files and folders that are hidden (for example .vimrc). I've lost all my settings that way when I migrated my /home :( That's odd, mine does. That's what I use to do back-ups on my system and it get all the .* files and directories. I have my back-up mounted at /mnt/gentoo and this is a list of my root user directory: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # ls -al /mnt/gentoo/root/ total 1128 drwx-- 29 root root 4096 2007-09-29 00:54 . drwxr-xr-x 15 root root 4096 2007-09-29 01:26 .. -rw--- 1 root root 11467 2007-09-27 15:15 .bash_history -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11 2006-10-01 21:39 .bash_login -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11 2006-10-01 21:39 .bash_logout drwx-- 2 root root 4096 2007-05-03 07:21 .ccache -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4487 2004-05-10 07:37 CFLAGS-script -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 40304 2007-01-08 04:21 config drwx-- 3 root root 4096 2007-03-18 06:11 .config -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 43453 2007-06-25 23:09 config-2-6-20-r8 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1045 2006-11-18 03:07 cruft.removal -rw-r--r-- 1 root root279 2005-12-20 13:57 dalek.revoke -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1360 2007-08-29 06:38 Data.kdar -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 55 2007-09-27 17:47 .DCOPserver_smoker__0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 27 2007-09-29 00:54 .DCOPserver_smoker_:0 - /root/.DCOPserver_smoker__0 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 32520 2007-04-10 03:16 dead.letter drwx-- 2 root root 4096 2007-09-09 04:50 Desktop drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2007-01-19 04:56 .distcc -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 10213 2006-09-04 04:03 elog -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3011 2006-10-30 03:25 elog-list -rw-r--r-- 1 root root877 2006-09-10 15:38 emerge-script drwxr-xr-x 2 500 500 4096 2005-07-18 15:59 enotice-0.2.9.1_alpha -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 25347 2006-04-20 22:46 etc-portclean -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root768 2006-10-20 01:52 fahback -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 153361 2006-10-18 01:43 finstall4.9 drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2006-10-20 01:52 foldingathome -rw-r--r-- 1 root root854 2007-01-29 17:41 .fonts.cache-1 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1256 2006-08-22 00:12 fragck.pl drwx-- 2 root root 4096 2007-08-07 13:45 .gconf drwx-- 2 root root 4096 2007-08-07 13:59 .gconfd -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 8240 2006-09-05 18:50 genscript.sh drwxr-xr-x 21 root root 4096 2007-09-18 22:41 .gimp-2.2 drwx-- 3 root root 4096 2006-12-09 14:17 .gnome2 drwx-- 2 root root 4096 2006-12-09 14:17 .gnome2_private drwx-- 2 root root 4096 2006-12-11 22:51 .gphoto drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-11-29 00:49 .gstreamer-0.8 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 67 2007-09-23 21:34 .hplip.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root544 2007-07-31 06:58 .htoprc -rw--- 1 root root 2284 2007-09-27 17:47 .ICEauthority drwx-- 3 root root 4096 2006-11-27 00:03 .kde -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2006-08-03 09:23 .keep -rw--- 1 root root 35 2007-07-30 04:05 .lesshst drwx-- 3 root root 4096 2006-09-14 04:03 .local drwx-- 3 root root 4096 2007-09-18 22:15 .macromedia drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2006-09-14 04:04 .mcop -rw--- 1 root root 31 2007-09-28 04:16 .mcoprc -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 35 2007-06-03 00:18 minicom.log drwx-- 3 root root 4096 2006-12-17 02:37 .mozilla drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-06-13 13:15 .mplayer drwx-- 3 root root 4096 2007-08-18 17:48 .ooo-2.0 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 23540 2004-05-10 08:20 prune-script drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-09-13 22:51 .qt -rw--- 1 root root 14491 2007-09-18 22:41 .recently-used -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 31133 2007-05-02 13:18 recompile-remaining-packages drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-05-12 23:00 rep4.py -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1232 2007-09-26 02:06 .revdep-rebuild.0_env -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 377327 2007-09-26 02:06 .revdep-rebuild.1_files -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 18877 2007-09-26 02:06 .revdep-rebuild.2_ldpath -rw-r--r-- 1 root root105 2007-09-26 02:10 .revdep-rebuild.3_rebuild -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2007-09-26 02:10 .revdep-rebuild.4_ebuilds -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2 2007-09-26 02:10 .revdep-rebuild.5a_status -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2 2007-09-26 02:10 .revdep-rebuild.5b_status -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20 2007-09-26 02:10 .revdep-rebuild.5_order
Re: [gentoo-user] ext3 with errors
On Sunday 30 September 2007, Florian Philipp wrote: Which shell do you use? Bash's default behavior (I don't know whether you can change that) is that it doesn't expand * to all files and directories but only the nonhidden. Just try the following: ls -l --directory --all ~/* On my system it only shows my a long lost of all directories and files without a dot at the beginning although, strictly speaking, the command should show all files, even the hidden ones. No, it should not (assuming the syntax of your example), unless bash dotglob option is on. One thing are the options to ls, another is how the shell expands wildcard characters. In your example, the tilde is expanded to the user's home dir (eg, /home/user), the asterisk is expanded to all the file and directory names under /home/user not starting with ., so what ls really sees is ls -l --directory --all /home/user/dir1 /home/user/dir2 /home/user/file1 /home/user/file2 etc. Since you gave the --directory (aka -d) option, and * expansion does not include names starting with ., nothing else is printed. The --all option does not come into play at all here. A different story would be if you did not use the -d option; then names at first level starting with . still would not have been shown (because * is expanded by the shell before ls sees the names), but directory contents would have been listed including names starting with ., due to the --all option. Another variation would be not using -d and giving only ~ as pathname to ls (ie, not ~/*). In that case, ls would see just /home/user and the --all option could do its job at the first level, listing all the names, even those starting with .. The bash option to have * expand to all the names, including those starting with ., is dotglob (eg, shopt -s dotglob). man bash explains it all. Is it possible that you mean regular expressions and not Bash's expansion feature? This is possible (well, sort of) enabling the extglob option in bash. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ext3 with errors
Sorry, I hit send too early; my answer is missing the last part. On Sunday 30 September 2007, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: Is it possible that you mean regular expressions and not Bash's expansion feature? This is possible (well, sort of) enabling the extglob option in bash. But still, this is not directly related to whether * expansion includes names starting with . or not. Getting all the files, including those starting with . (but excluding . and ..) using standard bash is not really easy; an approximation could be taking the files matching *, .[^.]*, and ..[^$]*. These patterns still expand to their literal values if no files match, so at least the nullglob option would be useful to avoid error messages. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ext3 with errors
Etaoin Shrdlu schrieb: On Sunday 30 September 2007, Florian Philipp wrote: Which shell do you use? Bash's default behavior (I don't know whether you can change that) is that it doesn't expand * to all files and directories but only the nonhidden. Just try the following: ls -l --directory --all ~/* On my system it only shows my a long lost of all directories and files without a dot at the beginning although, strictly speaking, the command should show all files, even the hidden ones. No, it should not (assuming the syntax of your example), unless bash dotglob option is on. One thing are the options to ls, another is how the shell expands wildcard characters. In your example, the tilde is expanded to the user's home dir (eg, /home/user), the asterisk is expanded to all the file and directory names under /home/user not starting with ., so what ls really sees is ls -l --directory --all /home/user/dir1 /home/user/dir2 /home/user/file1 /home/user/file2 etc. Since you gave the --directory (aka -d) option, and * expansion does not include names starting with ., nothing else is printed. The --all option does not come into play at all here. A different story would be if you did not use the -d option; then names at first level starting with . still would not have been shown (because * is expanded by the shell before ls sees the names), but directory contents would have been listed including names starting with ., due to the --all option. That's exactly what I wanted to explain to Dale ;) Sorry if I puzzled you. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ext3 with errors
Florian Philipp wrote: That's exactly what I wanted to explain to Dale ;) Sorry if I puzzled you. I just know that -a means all files including hidden ones. I like to keep it simple, so I can understand it. LOL Dale :-) :-) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ext3 with errors
Hello Arnau Bria, Now, I have a new disk and I want to set a RAID1, but first, I'm wondering what to do to save my fs consistency. So, I want to copy data from old disk to new disk, but I'm not sure if I must do a cp -a or a dd. I mean, if I do a cp -a my new disk will have a new journaling, and if I do a dd, new disk will have same. Am I right? What do you recommend? Create a two disk RAID1 using only your existing disk, marking the other disk missing. Then add your new disk and the RAID will automatically update it from the first disk. -- Neil Bothwick Religious error: (A)tone, (R)epent, (I)mmolate? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] ext3 with errors
On 9/29/07, Arnau Bria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, My system runs on several ext3 partitions. Last times I restart it, it has fs errors, so I have to fsck it. Now, I have a new disk and I want to set a RAID1, but first, I'm wondering what to do to save my fs consistency. So, I want to copy data from old disk to new disk, but I'm not sure if I must do a cp -a or a dd. I mean, if I do a cp -a my new disk will have a new journaling, and if I do a dd, new disk will have same. Am I right? What do you recommend? And, following with this, any guide to configure a RAID1 with a system already installed? TIA, Arnau -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list Is it software or hardware RAID 1? Hardware RAID 1 is easy, at least for a motherboard I used that had a Silicon Image chipset. I just told it to build a RAID 1 mirror with the two disks, it created an exact copy then and there of the original. From then on in wrote to the 2nd drive whenever it wrote to the 1st one. -- - Mark Shields
