Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3 has landed
Am 26.11.2011 23:11, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Am 2011-11-26 22:56, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Let me get this straight: if I want to somehow stay in the world of gnome-2.32 (panels, desktop, etc) I could simply avoid masking any of the new stuff and use the mentioned gnome-fallback-setting? I also hesitate to leave my comfort zone ... ;-) (and I am on ~amd64 as well). I think I will keep on masking ... For reference/testing/review: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-903192.html brought me to the package.mask I use right now (posting by golagoda). Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3 has landed
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 11:11:27PM +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Right now I use some package.mask-list from a posting in the gentoo-forums I'd be happy if the maintainers would provide us with a way to easily chose to stay w/ gnome-3 somehow (without maintaining a long list of packages to mask). Stefan Though I don’t use either Gnome version, I believe that we are quite safe with Gentoo for a while longer, as compared with most other distros out there. At least that is what I remember from my KDE experience; (almost) all distros jumped on the KDE 4 waggon as soon as the still unusable 4.1 and let KDE 3 fall instantly without alternative. OTOH, Gentoo remained with KDE3 as the main version for a comparably long time, and I am very grateful for that. And even after KDE4 became “stable” in portage, we could still use both in parallel for even longer before KDE3 was finally removed from portage. I think I made the final and complete switch as late as 4.3 or 4.4. -- Gruß | Greetings | Qapla' I forbid any use of my email addresses with Facebook services. Chefs sind wie Pauken: Je hohler sie sind, desto lauter tönen sie. pgpZNBTyywlHP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3 has landed
On Mon, Nov 28 2011, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: Though I don’t use either Gnome version, I believe that we are quite safe with Gentoo for a while longer, as compared with most other distros out there. At least that is what I remember from my KDE experience; (almost) all distros jumped on the KDE 4 waggon as soon as the still unusable 4.1 and let KDE 3 fall instantly without alternative. OTOH, Gentoo remained with KDE3 as the main version for a comparably long time, and I am very grateful for that. And even after KDE4 became “stable” in portage, we could still use both in parallel for even longer before KDE3 was finally removed from portage. I think I made the final and complete switch as late as 4.3 or 4.4. See http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-903280.html, which I believe is a good read. One quote 5. Will gnome-2 still be supported? For a limited time. We will support gnome-2 until gnome-3.x is stabilized. After gnome-3.x is marked stable, which will happen at some point in 2012, gnome-2 will be removed. We do not have the man-hours needed to properly support two major versions of gnome. allan
Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3 has landed
I googled how to disable the gnome-shell and get my gnome-panel back, along with the panel applets that I refuse to give up. (The gnome- shell replaces the gnome-panel, so there is nowhere to run the old applets.) If you want to disable gnome-shell you can do it with the System Info function in System Settings. Click the Graphics icon and enable the gnome-fallback setting to disable gnome-shell. Ah, much better :) I don't know if this can be useful for you, however: having a box with debian, I read the debian ML, too. Two weeks ago (if I remember correctly) gnome 3 landed in testing, resulting in many discussions. Among these, I remember that a few people claimed that fallback mode is only a temporary solution, and, sooner or later, it'll be removed. I don't know if it's true or not, but maybe this information can be valuable (or worth verification) for those that are going to run gnome 3 in fallback mode... FYI only. Cheers, Lorenzo -- Nothing is interesting if you're not interested.
Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3 has landed
Is that true, Gnome 3 available for gentoo. can i emerge it ? Fedora Blog: http://xtreme-fedora.blogspot.com/ My Blog: http://sharedonweb.blogspot.com/ On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 1:37 AM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: Well, at least on ~x86 and ~amd64 gnome3 is the default now. I have mixed feelings about gnome3, so I let gentoo install it on a VirtualBox VM to start with and I'll think about updating my real machines later. The new gnome-shell is the controversial piece of gnome3 and (so far) I find it counterproductive. I googled how to disable the gnome-shell and get my gnome-panel back, along with the panel applets that I refuse to give up. (The gnome- shell replaces the gnome-panel, so there is nowhere to run the old applets.) If you want to disable gnome-shell you can do it with the System Info function in System Settings. Click the Graphics icon and enable the gnome-fallback setting to disable gnome-shell. Ah, much better :)
Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3 has landed
Am 2011-11-26 21:07, schrieb walt: The new gnome-shell is the controversial piece of gnome3 and (so far) I find it counterproductive. I googled how to disable the gnome-shell and get my gnome-panel back, along with the panel applets that I refuse to give up. (The gnome- shell replaces the gnome-panel, so there is nowhere to run the old applets.) If you want to disable gnome-shell you can do it with the System Info function in System Settings. Click the Graphics icon and enable the gnome-fallback setting to disable gnome-shell. Ah, much better :) Let me get this straight: if I want to somehow stay in the world of gnome-2.32 (panels, desktop, etc) I could simply avoid masking any of the new stuff and use the mentioned gnome-fallback-setting? I also hesitate to leave my comfort zone ... ;-) (and I am on ~amd64 as well). Thanks, Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3 has landed
Am 2011-11-26 22:56, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Let me get this straight: if I want to somehow stay in the world of gnome-2.32 (panels, desktop, etc) I could simply avoid masking any of the new stuff and use the mentioned gnome-fallback-setting? I also hesitate to leave my comfort zone ... ;-) (and I am on ~amd64 as well). I think I will keep on masking ... http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/gnome-3-fallback.html for example tells me there are no applets, no desktop-behavior that I am used to. Right now I use some package.mask-list from a posting in the gentoo-forums I'd be happy if the maintainers would provide us with a way to easily chose to stay w/ gnome-3 somehow (without maintaining a long list of packages to mask). Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3 has landed
Vishnupradeep intermedia.vis...@gmail.com wrote: Is that true, Gnome 3 available for gentoo. can i emerge it ? Fedora Blog: http://xtreme-fedora.blogspot.com/ My Blog: http://sharedonweb.blogspot.com/ On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 1:37 AM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: Well, at least on ~x86 and ~amd64 gnome3 is the default now. I have mixed feelings about gnome3, so I let gentoo install it on a VirtualBox VM to start with and I'll think about updating my real machines later. The new gnome-shell is the controversial piece of gnome3 and (so far) I find it counterproductive. I googled how to disable the gnome-shell and get my gnome-panel back, along with the panel applets that I refuse to give up. (The gnome- shell replaces the gnome-panel, so there is nowhere to run the old applets.) If you want to disable gnome-shell you can do it with the System Info function in System Settings. Click the Graphics icon and enable the gnome-fallback setting to disable gnome-shell. Ah, much better :) What do I have to mask to prevent this for the time being? -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3 has landed
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 12:07 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: Well, at least on ~x86 and ~amd64 gnome3 is the default now. I have mixed feelings about gnome3, so I let gentoo install it on a VirtualBox VM to start with and I'll think about updating my real machines later. The new gnome-shell is the controversial piece of gnome3 and (so far) I find it counterproductive. I googled how to disable the gnome-shell and get my gnome-panel back, along with the panel applets that I refuse to give up. (The gnome- shell replaces the gnome-panel, so there is nowhere to run the old applets.) If you want to disable gnome-shell you can do it with the System Info function in System Settings. Click the Graphics icon and enable the gnome-fallback setting to disable gnome-shell. Ah, much better :) Slashdot today had an announcement of a Linux Mint 12 release which notably had comments about something called Mint Gnome Shell Extensions which supposedly lets them use Gnome 3 with a 'Gnome 2-Like Experience'. (How's that for marketing?!?) Maybe there's something there that could help you? Cheers, Mark
