Re: [gentoo-user] iscsitarget or targetcli?

2015-01-29 Thread thegeezer
On 29/01/15 10:25, J. Roeleveld wrote:
 Hi all,

 I want to set up an iSCSI server (target in iSCSI terminology) running on 
 Gentoo.
 Does anyone know which of the following 2 are better:
 -  sys-block/iscsitarget
 -  sys-block/targetcli

 Both don't seem to have had an update for over 2 years, but targetcli seems 
 to 
 be just the config-tool for whatever is in current kernels where, I think, 
 iscsitarget is a userspace daemon?

 Many thanks,

 Joost


I'd actually suggest using SCST
http://monklinux.blogspot.ie/2012/02/scst-configuration-how-to-using-gentoo.html

works very well and has a few extra niceties (dynamic resize
notification being one) that seem to be missing on other iscsi targets.
nice and easy syntax too




Re: [gentoo-user] iscsitarget or targetcli?

2015-01-29 Thread Andrea Conti
On 29/01/15 11:25, J. Roeleveld wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I want to set up an iSCSI server (target in iSCSI terminology) running on 
 Gentoo.
 Does anyone know which of the following 2 are better:
 -  sys-block/iscsitarget
 -  sys-block/targetcli
 
 Both don't seem to have had an update for over 2 years, but targetcli seems 
 to 
 be just the config-tool for whatever is in current kernels where, I think, 
 iscsitarget is a userspace daemon?
 
 Many thanks,
 
 Joost
 

Hi,

sys-block/iscsitarget is composed of a kernel module and a userspace
daemon, both compiled and installed by the ebuild.

I would second the recommendation for SCST, which is actively developed
and in my experience is quite more stable and tends to recover better
from unexpected events than sys-block/iscsitarget (I have used both for
quite some time).

The only downside of SCST is that it requires a bit more work to
install, mainly because there is no ebuild for it; moreover, while it
can be built against and run on a stock kernel, it comes with a couple
of kernel patches which should be applied for optimal performance or are
needed fot specific features (e.g. the vdisk backend).

andrea



Re: [gentoo-user] iscsitarget or targetcli?

2015-01-29 Thread Andrea Conti
 What is the difference between the kernel-stuff (targetcli is only the config-
 tool) and scst?

http://scst.sourceforge.net/comparison.html

It was written by the SCST team, so it should be taken with a grain of
salt; it is nonetheless a useful overview of the alternatives out there.

andrea




Re: [gentoo-user] iscsitarget or targetcli?

2015-01-29 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Thursday, January 29, 2015 11:28:56 AM thegeezer wrote:
 On 29/01/15 10:25, J. Roeleveld wrote:
  Hi all,
  
  I want to set up an iSCSI server (target in iSCSI terminology) running on
  Gentoo.
  Does anyone know which of the following 2 are better:
  -  sys-block/iscsitarget
  -  sys-block/targetcli
  
  Both don't seem to have had an update for over 2 years, but targetcli
  seems to be just the config-tool for whatever is in current kernels
  where, I think, iscsitarget is a userspace daemon?
  
  Many thanks,
  
  Joost
 
 I'd actually suggest using SCST
 http://monklinux.blogspot.ie/2012/02/scst-configuration-how-to-using-gentoo.
 html
 
 works very well and has a few extra niceties (dynamic resize
 notification being one) that seem to be missing on other iscsi targets.
 nice and easy syntax too



I managed to get dynamic resizing working when I did my first tests with 
targetcli and the kernel-inbuild stuff:

Device Drivers  ---
M Generic Target Core Mod (TCM) and ConfigFS Infrastructure  ---
M   TCM/IBLOCK Subsystem Plugin for Linux/BLOCK
M   TCM/FILEIO Subsystem Plugin for Linux/VFS
M   TCM/pSCSI Subsystem Plugin for Linux/SCSI
M   Linux-iSCSI.org iSCSI Target Mode Stack

I only had to tell the iscsi-client to recheck the new size:
server : # resize filesystem
(Server was using targetcli with the kernel-inbuild stuff)

client : # iscsiadm -m node -T iqnvm5... -R
client : # resize2fs /dev/sdb

What is the difference between the kernel-stuff (targetcli is only the config-
tool) and scst?

--
Joost



Re: [gentoo-user] iscsitarget or targetcli?

2015-01-29 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Thursday, January 29, 2015 02:23:14 PM Andrea Conti wrote:
  What is the difference between the kernel-stuff (targetcli is only the
  config- tool) and scst?
 
 http://scst.sourceforge.net/comparison.html
 
 It was written by the SCST team, so it should be taken with a grain of
 salt; it is nonetheless a useful overview of the alternatives out there.
 
 andrea

I found a few comparisons like that. I would prefer one from an independent 
source as both SCST and linux-iscsi.org (which seems to promote LIO/targetcli) 
both paint the picture theirs is stable and the other one might be

--
Joost



Re: [gentoo-user] iscsitarget or targetcli?

2015-01-29 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Thursday, January 29, 2015 02:18:13 PM Andrea Conti wrote:
 On 29/01/15 11:25, J. Roeleveld wrote:
  Hi all,
  
  I want to set up an iSCSI server (target in iSCSI terminology) running on
  Gentoo.
  Does anyone know which of the following 2 are better:
  -  sys-block/iscsitarget
  -  sys-block/targetcli
  
  Both don't seem to have had an update for over 2 years, but targetcli
  seems to be just the config-tool for whatever is in current kernels
  where, I think, iscsitarget is a userspace daemon?
  
  Many thanks,
  
  Joost
 
 Hi,
 
 sys-block/iscsitarget is composed of a kernel module and a userspace
 daemon, both compiled and installed by the ebuild.

That's what I thought as well.

LIO / targetcli does seem to work and is implemented into the Linux kernel.

Is there anyone with actual experience with this together with Gentoo?
As I said, my initial quick tests showed that it works the way I want it to.

 I would second the recommendation for SCST, which is actively developed
 and in my experience is quite more stable and tends to recover better
 from unexpected events than sys-block/iscsitarget (I have used both for
 quite some time).
 
 The only downside of SCST is that it requires a bit more work to
 install, mainly because there is no ebuild for it; moreover, while it
 can be built against and run on a stock kernel, it comes with a couple
 of kernel patches which should be applied for optimal performance or are
 needed fot specific features (e.g. the vdisk backend).

I had a look at it, but the howtos I find are all based on older kernels 
(2.6.x). I am currently using 3.14.27 for my testing as ZFS requires a kernel 
older then 3.16.

I am reluctant to apply kernel patches, would prefer just some modules.
The documentation for installing SCST is scarcer then for LIO/targetcli. (The 
latter has recent documentation on the Arch-linux site)

--
Joost