Re: [gentoo-user] trouble with custom keyboard shortcuts in gnome 3.4
On Wed, Sep 26 2012, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: My new install is gnome 3.4, which is running pretty well. I am having trouble with an (important-to-me) custom keyboard shortcut. I am an emacs user so changed many of the shortcuts to use the Windows key, i.e. super. This works Super+Up moves to the workspace above, etc. Be aware that Super+Up, Super+Left, and Super+Right work for maximize, mazimize to the left, and maximize to the right. I remap those to window above/below However, I have had 2 custom keyboards with previous gnome's Super+T gnome-terminal Super+E emacs This does not work. Pressing Super+T gives t, Super+E gives e. Known bug: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=659899 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=655615 Thanks. I just added myself to the CC list for both. In the mean time, may I recommend trying: Ctrl+Alt+e - Emacs Ctrl+Alt+t - Terminal It is not optimal, and the bug should be fixed. But it has a workaround. Both those keys are mapped to standard (useful) emacs commands. Also in emacs Ctrl+Alt+Shift+e is translated into Ctrl+Alt+e and the same for t. I might ask on the emacs list if messing with the translate table is advisable for competent-but-not-wizard emacs users. I hesitate since Ctrl+Alt+Shift+e is not so easy to type and it might be easier to just hit super (activities view) and then select emacs/gnome-terminal from the favorites list. thanks again, allan
Re: [gentoo-user] trouble with custom keyboard shortcuts in gnome 3.4
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Wed, Sep 26 2012, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: My new install is gnome 3.4, which is running pretty well. I am having trouble with an (important-to-me) custom keyboard shortcut. I am an emacs user so changed many of the shortcuts to use the Windows key, i.e. super. This works Super+Up moves to the workspace above, etc. Be aware that Super+Up, Super+Left, and Super+Right work for maximize, mazimize to the left, and maximize to the right. I remap those to window above/below However, I have had 2 custom keyboards with previous gnome's Super+T gnome-terminal Super+E emacs This does not work. Pressing Super+T gives t, Super+E gives e. Known bug: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=659899 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=655615 Thanks. I just added myself to the CC list for both. In the mean time, may I recommend trying: Ctrl+Alt+e - Emacs Ctrl+Alt+t - Terminal It is not optimal, and the bug should be fixed. But it has a workaround. Both those keys are mapped to standard (useful) emacs commands. Custom, I suppose? I've been using Emacs since 1996, and I certainly don't have C-M-e nor C-M-t defined. Also in emacs Ctrl+Alt+Shift+e is translated into Ctrl+Alt+e and the same for t. I might ask on the emacs list if messing with the translate table is advisable for competent-but-not-wizard emacs users. I hesitate since Ctrl+Alt+Shift+e is not so easy to type and it might be easier to just hit super (activities view) and then select emacs/gnome-terminal from the favorites list. I usually launch from the activities view. It's fast enough to do Super - e - m (and Emacs jump to the first selected item). I believe if you have a program in your favorites, it jumps faster (I just now realized that Super - e brings me Emacs right away). Anyway, with some luck the bug will be closes soon enough. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] trouble with custom keyboard shortcuts in gnome 3.4
On Thu, Sep 27 2012, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Wed, Sep 26 2012, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: In the mean time, may I recommend trying: Ctrl+Alt+e - Emacs Ctrl+Alt+t - Terminal It is not optimal, and the bug should be fixed. But it has a workaround. Both those keys are mapped to standard (useful) emacs commands. Custom, I suppose? I've been using Emacs since 1996, 1985 for me. and I certainly don't have C-M-e nor C-M-t defined. I would think that you do. Type C-h k C-M-e and you will get C-M-e runs the command end-of-defun, which is an interactive compiled Lisp function in `lisp.el'. It is bound to C-M-end, C-M-e, ESC C-end. (end-of-defun optional ARG) Move forward to next end of defun. With argument, do it that many times. Negative argument -N means move back to Nth preceding end of defun. An end of a defun occurs right after the close-parenthesis that matches the open-parenthesis that starts a defun; see function `beginning-of-defun'. If variable `end-of-defun-function' is non-nil, its value is called as a function to find the defun's end. I might ask on the emacs list if messing with the translate table is advisable for competent-but-not-wizard emacs users. I hesitate since Ctrl+Alt+Shift+e is not so easy to type and it might be easier to just hit super (activities view) and then select emacs/gnome-terminal from the favorites list. I usually launch from the activities view. It's fast enough to do Super - e - m (and Emacs jump to the first selected item). I believe if you have a program in your favorites, it jumps faster (I just now realized that Super - e brings me Emacs right away). Yes this is my current plan. Anyway, with some luck the bug will be closes soon enough. Agreed. allan
Re: [gentoo-user] trouble with custom keyboard shortcuts in gnome 3.4
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Thu, Sep 27 2012, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Wed, Sep 26 2012, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: In the mean time, may I recommend trying: Ctrl+Alt+e - Emacs Ctrl+Alt+t - Terminal It is not optimal, and the bug should be fixed. But it has a workaround. Both those keys are mapped to standard (useful) emacs commands. Custom, I suppose? I've been using Emacs since 1996, 1985 for me. and I certainly don't have C-M-e nor C-M-t defined. I would think that you do. Type C-h k C-M-e and you will get C-M-e runs the command end-of-defun, which is an interactive compiled Lisp function in `lisp.el'. You are right. I didn't knew that one. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] trouble with custom keyboard shortcuts in gnome 3.4
On Thu, Sep 27 2012, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: C-M-e runs the command end-of-defun, which is an interactive compiled Lisp function in `lisp.el'. You are right. I didn't knew that one. It is actually quite useful and, despite the name is not limited to lisp. Same with C-M-t. allan
Re: [gentoo-user] trouble with custom keyboard shortcuts in gnome 3.4
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: My new install is gnome 3.4, which is running pretty well. I am having trouble with an (important-to-me) custom keyboard shortcut. I am an emacs user so changed many of the shortcuts to use the Windows key, i.e. super. This works Super+Up moves to the workspace above, etc. Be aware that Super+Up, Super+Left, and Super+Right work for maximize, mazimize to the left, and maximize to the right. However, I have had 2 custom keyboards with previous gnome's Super+T gnome-terminal Super+E emacs This does not work. Pressing Super+T gives t, Super+E gives e. However if I set the shortcuts to be alt+T gnome-terminal alt+e emacs it works fine. However, I can't give up alt+T and alt+e as they are used in emacs. Known bug: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=659899 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=655615 Basically, GNOME Shell treats the Super key as special, and sometimes shortcuts binded to it fail. It is a bug, however, and devs are discussing how to handle it. In the mean time, may I recommend trying: Ctrl+Alt+e - Emacs Ctrl+Alt+t - Terminal It is not optimal, and the bug should be fixed. But it has a workaround. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] trouble with custom keyboard shortcuts in gnome 3.4
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 9:11 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: My new install is gnome 3.4, which is running pretty well. I am having trouble with an (important-to-me) custom keyboard shortcut. I am an emacs user so changed many of the shortcuts to use the Windows key, i.e. super. This works Super+Up moves to the workspace above, etc. Be aware that Super+Up, Super+Left, and Super+Right work for maximize, mazimize to the left, and maximize to the right. However, I have had 2 custom keyboards with previous gnome's Super+T gnome-terminal Super+E emacs This does not work. Pressing Super+T gives t, Super+E gives e. However if I set the shortcuts to be alt+T gnome-terminal alt+e emacs it works fine. However, I can't give up alt+T and alt+e as they are used in emacs. Known bug: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=659899 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=655615 Basically, GNOME Shell treats the Super key as special, and sometimes shortcuts binded to it fail. It is a bug, however, and devs are discussing how to handle it. In the mean time, may I recommend trying: Ctrl+Alt+e - Emacs Ctrl+Alt+t - Terminal It is not optimal, and the bug should be fixed. But it has a workaround. Regards. BTW, it can be done with an extension (according to the bug) using global.display.add_keybinding(). I haven't wrote any GNOME Shell extension, but I've heard it's not difficult. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
