Re: Critique on Amory Lovins / RMI

2008-02-26 Thread rfriedmann
]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; gep-ed@listserve1.allegheny.edu Sent: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 9:21 pm Subject: Re: Critique on Amory Lovins / RMI I think that -- as Bram and others had noted earlier, and as the piece by amien White that I recommended on this list argues -- it is important to istinguish Lovins

RE: Critique on Amory Lovins / RMI

2008-02-25 Thread Bram Büscher
Title: RE: Critique on Amory Lovins / RMI Thanks for this clarification Matthew. Perhaps I was too quick in my assertion, but why I felt especially uncomfortable with the way in which Lovins presented (as such interesting) technological innovations, was that it actually obfuscates wider

RE: Critique on Amory Lovins / RMI

2008-02-25 Thread Geoffrey Wandesforde-Smith
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bram Büscher Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 12:29 AM To: Matthew Paterson; willett Cc: Global Environmental Education Subject: RE: Critique on Amory Lovins / RMI Thanks for this clarification Matthew. Perhaps I was too quick in my assertion, but why I

Re: Critique on Amory Lovins / RMI

2008-02-25 Thread rfriedmann
@listserve1.allegheny.edu Sent: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:35 pm Subject: Re: Critique on Amory Lovins / RMI GEPED folks:   Lovins' stuff in the 1970s was interesting for numerous reasons, but in many ways much more interesting than his market capitalism stuff more recently. Most people seem to forget

Re: Critique on Amory Lovins / RMI

2008-02-25 Thread John M. Meyer
, 25 Feb 2008 12:35 pm Subject: Re: Critique on Amory Lovins / RMI GEPED folks: Â Lovins' stuff in the 1970s was interesting for numerous reasons, but in many ways much more interesting than his market capitalism stuff more recently. Most people seem to forget that he came out of the anti

Re: Critique on Amory Lovins / RMI

2008-02-24 Thread John M. Meyer
Damien Finbar White has an excellent article, entitled, A Green Industrial Revolution? Sustainable Technological Innovation in a Global Age. in the Summer 2002 edition of Environmental Politics, which offers a thoughtful and critical analysis of Hawken, Lovins, and Lovins. John Meyer

Re: Critique on Amory Lovins / RMI

2008-02-24 Thread willett
Two decades ago, Denton Morrison published a couple of aritlces in the sociological literatuares laying out all of Lovin's social science assertions found in earlier books. He wasn't really critical but it was clear that even the earlier work had huge numbers of unproven assertions about

Re: Critique on Amory Lovins / RMI

2008-02-24 Thread Matthew Paterson
-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web site: http://www.socialsciences.uottawa.ca/pol/eng/index.asp From: willett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 15:39:59 -0500 To: Bram Büscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Global Environmental Education gep-ed@listserve1.allegheny.edu Subject: Re: Critique on Amory