Re: [Gimp-developer] FAQ (-: sooner or later :-) KDEification of GIMP

2005-06-21 Thread pcg
On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 01:02:34AM +0200, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know what I am smoking, but this very compaint has come up a number of times, and your only reaction is to talk it down. That is a blatant lie. The reaction to these concerns is that me and This is the

Re: [Gimp-developer] FAQ (-: sooner or later :-) KDEification of GIMP

2005-06-21 Thread jernej
On Tuesday, June 21, 2005, 1:02:34, Sven Neumann wrote: No, it does not at all work surprisingly well. It is *extremely* slow, it hinders, it flickers, it destroys the selection, it pops up a window. It feels like an ugly kludge and certainly does not wor surprisingly well. I cannot

[Gimp-developer] Peace!

2005-06-21 Thread Giles
Hi Marc, Sven. I don't know if there's a list protocol about this, or maybe it's well established that peacemakers like myself are pretty much bound to fail, but I thought I'd give it a shot ... I've been on the internet for many years, and I've been insulted and flamed quite a number of times.

Re: [Gimp-developer] Peace! Seconded!

2005-06-21 Thread Leon Brooks
On Tuesday 21 June 2005 19:55, Giles wrote: I don't think the list can afford to lose the input of either one of you. Agree. Please find a way to work together, or at least constructively ignore one another. Cheers; Leon -- http://cyberknights.com.au/ Modern tools; traditional

Re: [Gimp-developer] FAQ (-: sooner or later :-) KDEification of GIMP

2005-06-21 Thread Jakub Steiner
On Tue, 2005-06-21 at 13:02 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday, June 21, 2005, 1:02:34, Sven Neumann wrote: No, it does not at all work surprisingly well. It is *extremely* slow, it hinders, it flickers, it destroys the selection, it pops up a window. It feels like an ugly kludge

Re: [Gimp-developer] Peace!

2005-06-21 Thread William Skaggs
Giles wrote: I don't think the list can afford to lose the input of either one of you. I wouldn't worry too much about it. Compared to flame-fests of the past, this one is pretty much a yawner. At least they're arguing about questions of fact. -- Bill The one advantage of playing with

Re: [Gimp-developer] FAQ (-: sooner or later :-) KDEification of GIMP

2005-06-21 Thread jernej
On Tuesday, June 21, 2005, 17:29:52, Jakub Steiner wrote: I believe you missed the type-ahead functionality: I know of type-ahead, but it's not an adequate replacement for a real path+file text entry. This is how I usually browse for files: http://deeperthought.ena.si/autocompletion.htm (I only

Re: [Gimp-developer] FAQ (-: sooner or later :-) KDEification of GIMP

2005-06-21 Thread Tino Schwarze
On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 07:16:25PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday, June 21, 2005, 17:29:52, Jakub Steiner wrote: I believe you missed the type-ahead functionality: I know of type-ahead, but it's not an adequate replacement for a real path+file text entry. This is how I usually

Re: [Gimp-developer] Peace!

2005-06-21 Thread Carol Spears
On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 08:46:55AM -0700, William Skaggs wrote: Giles wrote: I don't think the list can afford to lose the input of either one of you. I wouldn't worry too much about it. Compared to flame-fests of the past, this one is pretty much a yawner. At least they're arguing

Re: [Gimp-developer] Peace!

2005-06-21 Thread pcg
On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 11:20:44AM -0700, Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: completely off-thread, i would like to see the way mr. lehmann has the menu structure set in his own personal instance of gimp. I never ever changed the menu structure compared to the cvs/source releases, and I

Re: [Gimp-developer] Peace!

2005-06-21 Thread Michael Schumacher
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ( Marc) (A.) (Lehmann ) wrote: If you mean that I didn't make a separate Perl subhierarchy like script-fu does (or did), then yes, this I did because I believed that a user must not be forced to learn the difference between a C/Script-Fu/python/perl/whatever plug-in. It

Re: [Gimp-developer] Peace!

2005-06-21 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Giles [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't think the list can afford to lose the input of either one of you. Don't worry. We are just having some fun. At least I hope that Marc does. I am certainly enjoying it. Sven ___ Gimp-developer mailing list

Re: [Gimp-developer] FAQ (-: sooner or later :-) KDEification of GIMP

2005-06-21 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( Marc) (A.) (Lehmann ) writes: This is the end of reasonable discussion with you again. Too bad you immediately call other people liars and worse. Couldn'T you simply be reasonable? Huh? Is it all over already? That would be a pity. these concern with Federico and

Re: [Gimp-developer] Peace!

2005-06-21 Thread pcg
On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 10:24:46PM +0200, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Giles [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't think the list can afford to lose the input of either one of you. Don't worry. We are just having some fun. At least I hope that Marc does. I am certainly enjoying it.

Re: [Gimp-developer] FAQ (-: sooner or later :-) KDEification of GIMP

2005-06-21 Thread pcg
On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 10:48:15PM +0200, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Huh? Is it all over already? That would be a pity. I won't let you drga me down to that level of discussion. So when you want to rant about lies and accusations, feel free to do so without me. I cannot reproduce

Re: [Gimp-developer] Peace!

2005-06-21 Thread pcg
On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 09:28:56PM +0200, Michael Schumacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still believe that making language-specific menus is a disservice to users. It's only use is for marketing of the language in question (oh, so it's in script-fu!). But such ideas were and probably are

[Gimp-developer] Integrated Scripting

2005-06-21 Thread Carol Spears
now that marc and sven have had their fun and we have all been allowed an example of how the perlized obfiscuates script-foneys with equal yet different levels of artificial intelligence; are there opinions of ways to rearrange the Xtns portion of the menu system? questions i have are these:

Re: [Gimp-developer] FAQ (-: sooner or later :-) KDEification of GIMP

2005-06-21 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( Marc) (A.) (Lehmann ) writes: As I told you before: for using the dialogs, it doesn't matter wether the design is a beauty in itself or wether it is spaghetti code. What counts is how it works for the user. And the new dialog is still not up to the level of usefulness

Re: [Gimp-developer] FAQ (-: sooner or later :-) KDEification of GIMP

2005-06-21 Thread jernej
On Wednesday, June 22, 2005, 0:18:34, Sven Neumann wrote: So far noone has made a proposal on how such an entry should be integrated with the current dialog. What's wrong with the place Inkscape puts it? -- Jernej Simoncic http://deepthought.ena.si/ All inanimate objects can move just

Re: [Gimp-developer] FAQ (-: sooner or later :-) KDEification of GIMP

2005-06-21 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So far noone has made a proposal on how such an entry should be integrated with the current dialog. What's wrong with the place Inkscape puts it? The place is probably OK, despite my feeling that it adds clutter. The real problem though is that an entry only

Re: [Gimp-developer] Integrated Scripting

2005-06-21 Thread Carol Spears
On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 07:18:25PM -0400, Nathan Summers wrote: On 6/21/05, Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: include a menu entry for each of the gimp script powertools: the browsers the consoles the servers I see little reason why

Re: [Gimp-developer] Integrated Scripting

2005-06-21 Thread Akkana Peck
Nathan Summers writes: On 6/21/05, Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: different levels of artificial intelligence; are there opinions of ways to rearrange the Xtns portion of the menu system? Great topic. Personally I'd love to see the Script-Fu and Python entries go away, for the same

Re: [Gimp-developer] FAQ (-: sooner or later :-) KDEification of GIMP

2005-06-21 Thread Robert L Krawitz
From: Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 00:18:34 +0200 (3) Don't try to advertise the old GtkFileSelection dialog as being the solution that we should revert too. I didn't. I did advertise the way the old file selection dialog used it's text entry

[Gimp-developer] Bevel/Innerbevel effect

2005-06-21 Thread Thorsten Will
hi! i am new here! i am trying to code in basic a drawing effect. afak this effect i am looking for, is called inner-bevel !?? i dont know where to start and cant find any source nor tutorials about how to code such an effect ;-/ so i thought i would contact you and maybe someone of you may

Re: [Gimp-developer] Integrated Scripting

2005-06-21 Thread Carol Spears
On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 05:38:36PM -0700, Akkana Peck wrote: Nathan Summers writes: On 6/21/05, Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: different levels of artificial intelligence; are there opinions of ways to rearrange the Xtns portion of the menu system? Great topic. Personally I'd

Re: [Gimp-developer] Integrated Scripting

2005-06-21 Thread Leon Brooks
On Wednesday 22 June 2005 11:36, Carol Spears wrote: On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 05:38:36PM -0700, Akkana Peck wrote: Nathan Summers writes: Personally I'd love to see the Script-Fu and Python entries go away, for the same reason as in the Filters menu: the user shouldn't have to know. True,