Re: [Gimp-developer] Rudeness on gimp devel and bugzilla - was: Re: Tools

2007-03-20 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 23:35 -0300, Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris wrote: Simon, where does that forbid one to add words like thanks, please, would and etc... to even a short answer, like a FAQ URL??? Feel free to add those, no one forbids it. But seriously, the question was stupid and the

Re: [Gimp-developer] Rudeness on gimp devel and bugzilla - was: Re: Tools

2007-03-20 Thread Michael Schumacher
Von: Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris [EMAIL PROTECTED] You see, the GIMP is not exactly with exceeding developer resources, and every single person I see trying to approach the project either here or over bugzilla gets a rude answer that might have turned then away for good. There are canned

Re: [Gimp-developer] Rudeness on gimp devel and bugzilla - was: Re: Tools

2007-03-20 Thread Simon Budig
Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Monday 19 March 2007 08:11, Simon Budig wrote: IMHO, refraining from posts like this could greatly improve the atmosphere of this list. It is really up to you to help  somebody with answering his question or not to help, but

Re: [Gimp-developer] Rudeness on gimp devel and bugzilla - was: Re: Tools

2007-03-20 Thread Michael Natterer
On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 23:35 -0300, Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris wrote: It is not really hard - and that is to you Mitch, you Sven, you Nomis, to simply rememebr the person on the other sidee is sitll a human being, is not it? Not less human for having less abilities to compile/hack

Re: [Gimp-developer] Rudeness on gimp devel and bugzilla - was: Re: Tools

2007-03-20 Thread Raphaël Quinet
On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 11:28:49 +0100, Simon Budig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Simon, where does that forbid one to add words like thanks, please, would and etc... to even a short answer, like a FAQ URL??? Nothing forbids that. The

Re: [Gimp-developer] Rudeness on gimp devel and bugzilla - was: Re: Tools

2007-03-20 Thread Alexander Rabtchevich
There is a practice within OO bugzilla management (at least with some QA persons) to 1. thank the bug reporter for his work - whether it is useless from a developer's POV or not. 2. if it is a well-known bug or the problem should be known from FAQ or other online document, the link to this

Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Proposal: Add a temporary magnifier

2007-03-20 Thread Chris Mohler
On 3/19/07, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We aren't using cairo yet. But I don't see what you would want to use gdk_draw_drawable() for. OK - I have more to learn! app/dialogs/dialogs.c, IIRC Thanks. Chris ___ Gimp-developer mailing list

Re: [Gimp-developer] Rudeness on gimp devel and bugzilla - was: Re: Tools

2007-03-20 Thread gg
On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 12:21:23 +0100, Michael Natterer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is not really hard - and that is to you Mitch, you Sven, you Nomis, to simply remember the person on the other side is still a human being, is not it? Not less human for having less abilities to compile/hack

Re: [Gimp-developer] Rudeness on gimp devel and bugzilla - was: Re:Tools

2007-03-20 Thread William Skaggs
Acually the thing that struck me was that the answer from Mitch was not only a little rude (which is unusual for Mitch), it was also a bad answer -- it doesn't make sense to download the source code just to find out what language it is written in. Now if the first thing that occurs to *Mitch* is

Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Proposal: Add a temporary magnifier

2007-03-20 Thread peter sikking
Chris, First off, I want to apologize - it's not my intention to be combative, and I can be a total ass sometimes. don't worry, I am also fired up about this one. here is why: people have talked to me a week or more ago on the irc along the line of: what's the big deal, one way or another

Re: [Gimp-developer] Rudeness on gimp devel and bugzilla - was: Re: Tools

2007-03-20 Thread Akkana Peck
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Come on, that is simply a rude accusation. Is it rude? It seems perfectly reasonable and polite to me. Interestingly Sven seems to find this highly offensive as well. May be you think taking offense somehow negates the criticism. It seems you both are not too

Re: [Gimp-developer] Rudeness on gimp devel and bugzilla

2007-03-20 Thread Martin Nordholts
I really would like to add my point of view to this discussion, sorry for messing up threading (I had daily digests until just now) I understand the reply was not in any way meant to be offensive mitch, but I, as I have stated before on IRC, also think that not very rarely replies to people who

Re: [Gimp-developer] Rudeness on gimp devel and bugzilla - was: Re: Tools

2007-03-20 Thread Ori Bernstein
(oops, sent privately: resending to list) On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 23:35:30 -0300, Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: You see, the GIMP is not exactly with exceeding developer resources, and every single person I see trying to approach the project either here or over bugzilla

Re: [Gimp-developer] Rudeness on gimp devel and bugzil la - was: Re: Tools

2007-03-20 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi Mitch and everybody! On Tuesday 20 March 2007, Michael Natterer wrote: On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 23:35 -0300, Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris wrote: It is not really hard - and that is to you Mitch, you Sven, you Nomis, to simply rememebr the person on the other sidee is sitll a human being, is

Re: [Gimp-developer] Rudeness on gimp devel and bugzilla - was: Re:Tools

2007-03-20 Thread Michael Natterer
On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 10:00 -0700, William Skaggs wrote: Acually the thing that struck me was that the answer from Mitch was not only a little rude (which is unusual for Mitch), it was also a bad answer -- it doesn't make sense to download the source code just to find out what language it is

Re: [Gimp-developer] Rudeness on gimp devel and bugzilla - was: Re: Tools

2007-03-20 Thread Simon Budig
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 12:21:23 +0100, Michael Natterer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is not really hard - and that is to you Mitch, you Sven, you Nomis, to simply remember the person on the other side is still a human being, is not it? Not less

Re: [Gimp-developer] Rudeness on gimp devel and bugzilla - was:?Re: Tools

2007-03-20 Thread Simon Budig
Hi. Shlomi Fish ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: It took me 10 minutes to write. Oh wow. Is it just me or is this really a *lot* of time? Personally I'd consider answering 6 lazy questions per hour a waste of time. (Sorry for not replying to all of your mail - this just stuck out to me) Bye,

Re: [Gimp-developer] Rudeness on gimp devel and bugzilla - was: Re: Tools

2007-03-20 Thread cedric GEMY
yep, Gimp's team has its own reputation : not very opened to outside things. may be this is not completely true, for examplegimp's team has been opened to join LGM instead of going on with the GimpCons. I guess nobody is responsible and everyone can be. The fact can Gimp is a quite huge and

Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Proposal: Add a temporary magnifier

2007-03-20 Thread Mark Lowry
Peter, I'm glad you've become the ambassador for this. Your description of a loupe is basically what I was proposing in my original bugzilla proposal #409802 ( http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=409802 ). Rather than add another proposal, why not just flesh out the details of your vision

Re: [Gimp-developer] Rudeness on gimp devel and bugzilla

2007-03-20 Thread Martin Nordholts
You're right, and I appologize for drawing hasty/wrong conclusions, my prejudices were wrong. Check out this awesome Ruby script though, it produces some rather interesting output nevertheless. Martin :Manish Singh skrev: On Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 07:36:52PM +0100, Martin Nordholts wrote: