Re: [Gimp-developer] Lanczos algorithm funnyness?

2005-11-18 Thread pcg
On Sat, Nov 19, 2005 at 02:18:03AM +, Alastair M. Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But still, its clearly a faulty algorithm... Quite serious as well(?) This might be a silly question, but why is GIMP using interpolation at all when reducing images? Shouldn't it be doing weighted

Re: [Gimp-developer] FAQ (-: sooner or later :-) KDEification of GIMP

2005-06-25 Thread pcg
On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 11:53:18PM +0200, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is, I think the fundamental flaw. A user interface that works for the majority is a pretty idiotic goal. A user interface should work for ALL users, and likely should have features to support the majority.

Re: [Gimp-developer] gtk file choser widget

2005-06-23 Thread pcg
On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 12:24:24AM +0200, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: developers removed it. Why is something removed that is apparently useful to a lot of people and is no problem for someone who does not want to use it? Because it isn't needed. You can still enter the

Re: [Gimp-developer] FAQ (-: sooner or later :-) KDEification of GIMP

2005-06-22 Thread pcg
On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 12:59:33AM +0200, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( Marc) (A.) (Lehmann ) writes: Not a _single_ problem I described been changed (I originally assumed that the kills the selection problem has gone away, but it's still there).

Re: [Gimp-developer] FAQ (-: sooner or later :-) KDEification of GIMP

2005-06-22 Thread pcg
On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 12:18:34AM +0200, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: all that bad compared to the former. Most of the complaints seem to come from people who got accustomed to the old dialog and haven't really tried to approach the new one yet w/o leaving the old habits behind. Of

Re: [Gimp-developer] FAQ (-: sooner or later :-) KDEification of GIMP

2005-06-22 Thread pcg
On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 09:53:20PM -0400, Robert L Krawitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: people? The problem (to me, and I daresay to Marc) is very simple -- there's no obvious way to simply enter a pathname with a simple form of completion that's only activated on demand. Actually, the old file

Re: [Gimp-developer] FAQ (-: sooner or later :-) KDEification of GIMP

2005-06-22 Thread pcg
On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 10:12:05AM +0200, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is not about making you and Marc shut up. This is about designing a user interface that works for the majority of users. Whatever we do, there will always be someone complaining. I don't really care who that

Re: [Gimp-developer] FAQ (-: sooner or later :-) KDEification of GIMP

2005-06-21 Thread pcg
On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 01:02:34AM +0200, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know what I am smoking, but this very compaint has come up a number of times, and your only reaction is to talk it down. That is a blatant lie. The reaction to these concerns is that me and This is the

Re: [Gimp-developer] Peace!

2005-06-21 Thread pcg
On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 11:20:44AM -0700, Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: completely off-thread, i would like to see the way mr. lehmann has the menu structure set in his own personal instance of gimp. I never ever changed the menu structure compared to the cvs/source releases, and I

Re: [Gimp-developer] Peace!

2005-06-21 Thread pcg
On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 10:24:46PM +0200, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Giles [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't think the list can afford to lose the input of either one of you. Don't worry. We are just having some fun. At least I hope that Marc does. I am certainly enjoying it.

Re: [Gimp-developer] FAQ (-: sooner or later :-) KDEification of GIMP

2005-06-21 Thread pcg
On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 10:48:15PM +0200, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Huh? Is it all over already? That would be a pity. I won't let you drga me down to that level of discussion. So when you want to rant about lies and accusations, feel free to do so without me. I cannot reproduce

Re: [Gimp-developer] Peace!

2005-06-21 Thread pcg
On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 09:28:56PM +0200, Michael Schumacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still believe that making language-specific menus is a disservice to users. It's only use is for marketing of the language in question (oh, so it's in script-fu!). But such ideas were and probably are

Re: [Gimp-developer] FAQ (-: sooner or later :-) KDEification of GIMP

2005-06-20 Thread pcg
On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 12:40:37AM +0200, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps you should stop looking at the dialog and just blindly enter paths. It works surprisingly well. I just told you that this is not true. Then you told me you'd not ignore complaints. Now you tell me what I

Re: [Gimp-developer] FAQ (-: sooner or later :-) KDEification of GIMP

2005-06-20 Thread pcg
On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 11:14:03AM +0200, Dennis Bjorklund [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing is that people, and _many_ people, just want their location entry back, for lots of reasons: discoverability, pastability and so on. But for some reason this simply does not happen. Do you want

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [Gimp-developer] FAQ (-: sooner or later :-) KDEification of GIMP]

2005-06-18 Thread pcg
[This is a re-sent because my reent mails had been sent for moderation ut never appeared on-list: is the list still moderated?] On Sat, Jun 18, 2005 at 03:23:02PM +0200, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And, you aren't seriously trying to argue that the new GtkFileChooser would be worse

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP and multiple processors

2005-02-21 Thread pcg
On Mon, Feb 21, 2005 at 09:14:13AM +0100, Tino Schwarze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can force it to use both CPUs now, but even with 200% utilization it is 2s slower to run this stupid ubenchmark than on 1 CPU without threads. Just a vague guess, but the multiprocessor GIMP pixel work

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP and multiple processors

2005-02-20 Thread pcg
On Sun, Feb 20, 2005 at 10:55:18PM +0100, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mean that it's a stupid pthread implementation. To me this looks like the kernel believes that it would be better to keep the threads local than to move one to the other CPU. Linux will not keep two threads

Re: [Gimp-developer] CVS HEAD dependency on glib-2.6 / gtk+-2.6

2005-02-17 Thread pcg
On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 03:07:43PM -0500, David Gowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the difficulty of dynamic-keyboard-shortcutting, you can avoid by creating a shortcut scheme in advance. That certainly works for you, but it also takes the dynamic out of dynamic keyboard shortcuts, and some

Re: [Gimp-developer] CVS HEAD dependency on glib-2.6 / gtk+-2.6

2005-02-15 Thread pcg
On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 02:59:55PM -0500, Nathan Summers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 20:53:17 +0100, Marc A. Lehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For example, you can switch between dynamic keybindigs and mnemonic use via preferences, but the 2.x dynamic keybindings are not as

Re: [Gimp-developer] CVS HEAD dependency on glib-2.6 / gtk+-2.6

2005-02-13 Thread pcg
On Sun, Feb 13, 2005 at 02:19:52AM +0100, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: people in the past, too. I would call this hidden, yes, and I still think it's a usability problem, because 1.2 clearly worked better. Marc, I shouldn't argue with you Maybe, but I think sensible arguments

Re: [Gimp-developer] plugin defaults - where to put them?

2005-02-13 Thread pcg
On Sun, Feb 13, 2005 at 11:35:05AM -0800, William Skaggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My plugin have various user selectable configuration settings. Right now, I use ~/.gimp-2.2/gimprc to store the defaults. I am not sure if it is correct to fill up gimprc in this way, and no setting is

Re: [Gimp-developer] CVS HEAD dependency on glib-2.6 / gtk+-2.6

2005-02-12 Thread pcg
On Sat, Feb 12, 2005 at 01:15:02PM +0100, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: where I clearly differentiated between gimp-specific issues and gtk+-specific ones. Marc, it is you who is constantly trying to change your words. Ehem? as you figure out that you have been wrong, you start

Re: [Gimp-developer] CVS HEAD dependency on glib-2.6 / gtk+-2.6

2005-02-12 Thread pcg
On Sat, Feb 12, 2005 at 08:29:10PM +0100, Simon Budig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marc Lehmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Sat, Feb 12, 2005 at 01:15:02PM +0100, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: as you figure out that you have been wrong, you start to claim that you didn't say this

Re: [Gimp-developer] CVS HEAD dependency on glib-2.6 / gtk+-2.6

2005-02-11 Thread pcg
On Fri, Feb 11, 2005 at 10:56:38AM +0100, Michael Natterer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It takes a long time to open, for no reason. That is gimp-specific, other apps using the file dialog behave differently, as I explained. On my machine it takes about as long to open GIMP's file dialog as

Re: [Gimp-developer] CVS HEAD dependency on glib-2.6 / gtk+-2.6

2005-02-10 Thread pcg
On Fri, Feb 11, 2005 at 01:17:32AM +0100, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Marc, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( Marc) (A.) (Lehmann ) writes: I don't understand why they are ignorant - having to use undocumented functionality and keyboard shortcuts without visible representation anyhwere

Re: [Gimp-developer] CVS HEAD dependency on glib-2.6 / gtk+-2.6

2005-02-10 Thread pcg
On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 07:35:11PM +0100, Michael Natterer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( Marc) (A.) (Lehmann ) writes: Some problems might be caused by misdesigns in gtk+, but not all. Ah, So which problem you have with the file dialog is GIMP specific? It takes a long time

Re: [Gimp-developer] CVS HEAD dependency on glib-2.6 / gtk+-2.6

2005-02-09 Thread pcg
On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 11:01:07PM +0100, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How would that be specific to GIMP? The problem is that there is not only the combo-box. There's a full directory view below it. It's hidden in an expander but that doesn't change the fact that it is there. On my

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-remote

2005-02-07 Thread pcg
On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 02:51:00AM +0100, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( Marc) (A.) (Lehmann ) writes: Would you mind to explain what sort of problems that would be? If we mozilla ./file = file not acesssible (permission denied, other user,

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-remote

2005-02-07 Thread pcg
On Sun, Feb 06, 2005 at 08:08:29PM -0800, Manish Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the behavior should be as follows: By default, gimp should try to connect to a running instance, but *only* if it's on the same machine and running as the same user. gimp --remote (or if argv[0] ==

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-remote

2005-02-06 Thread pcg
On Sun, Feb 06, 2005 at 02:51:05PM +0100, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would you mind to explain what sort of problems that would be? If we mozilla ./file = file not acesssible (permission denied, other user, inaccessible dir) = file not accessible (different machine) = file not

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: gimp-remote

2005-02-06 Thread pcg
On Sun, Feb 06, 2005 at 08:41:30PM +0100, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course you can't load a local file into a gimp instance running on This is, of course, possible, but not with the current gimp-remote, and it's probably not that desirable t make it run. a different machine but

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: gimp-remote

2005-02-06 Thread pcg
On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 12:16:33AM +0100, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: new, local instance should start to open that file, since the remote one can't load that file. But if the remote protocol just looks for a gimp window, it will try to use the existing gimp instance to open the

Re: [Gimp-developer] CVS HEAD dependency on glib-2.6 / gtk+-2.6

2005-02-06 Thread pcg
On Sun, Feb 06, 2005 at 02:48:03PM +0100, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: keybindings have been added and some of the focus problems have been eliminated. These changes improve usability of the file chooser a lot and I think that it can now really be called an improvement over the old

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-remote

2005-02-05 Thread pcg
On Sun, Feb 06, 2005 at 01:52:40AM +0100, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: department. What I would like to suggest today is to merge the gimp-remote functionality into the gimp binary. This would eliminate the confusion about which binary to use. It would also give us the chance to

[Gimp-developer] wanted: talk at the linxuworldexpo.de

2004-08-06 Thread pcg
Hi, Unlike previous years, this year there will be freely attendable .org sessions on the linuxworldexpo.de, which is a great improvement over previous yeras. Unfortunately, these were added fairly late, and there are still free slots. I think it would be a great opportunity for some gimp

Re: [Gimp-developer] wanted: talk at the linxuworldexpo.de

2004-08-06 Thread pcg
On Fri, Aug 06, 2004 at 06:17:32PM +0200, Marc A. Lehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are interested, please reply till tomorrow (yes, it's fairly late, sorry). Actually till Sunday, sorry, I was confused. -- The choice of a | -==-

Re: [Gimp-developer] Script-fu-server and queuing

2004-07-07 Thread pcg
Because the Gimp was not originally designed as a server, it does not follow some conventions that are necessary for such a mode. This includes the issue of managing shared resources among different threads of execution. A few of the resources that are not 'thread-safe' include the

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: GPL discussion (was something else)

2004-05-13 Thread pcg
On Thu, May 13, 2004 at 01:04:23AM +, Tor Lillqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( Marc) (A.) (Lehmann ) writes: According to you, this shouldn't be. Additionally, one would assume that these are additional restrictions that are explicitly forbidden by the GPL itself.

Re: [Gimp-developer] Refactoring code from GPL to LGPL

2004-05-12 Thread pcg
On Wed, May 12, 2004 at 01:12:03PM +0200, Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But let's take an example... I write a GPL network daemon (say red carpet). Someone write a non-GPL compliant client (say an LGPL encapsulation of the RedCarpet XML-RPC protocol to allow proprietary

[Gimp-developer] Re: GPL discussion (was something else)

2004-05-12 Thread pcg
On Wed, May 12, 2004 at 03:55:31PM +0200, Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: into another language. (Hereinafter, translation is included without limitation in the term modification.) I've read and re-read this, and I'm having trouble figuring out how anyone can consider a network

Re: [Gimp-developer] Joining the GNOME Foundation

2004-05-02 Thread pcg
On Sat, May 01, 2004 at 06:06:54PM +0200, David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the moment, I am working under the supposition that the best option available to us is to join the GNOME Foundation. That means that when we do fundraising, the donations would go to the GNOME Foundation, and

Re: [Gimp-developer] Baby photos (was: Gimp 2.0)

2004-04-23 Thread pcg
On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 01:40:14AM +, Markus Triska [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have not yet explained what exactly makes you think of Dutroux when looking at the Photo and what exactly you think has been gained by removing that image in that context. The Dutroux connection is

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Gimp 2.0

2004-04-21 Thread pcg
On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 03:53:18AM +, Markus Triska [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: we would not show a naked woman in a Gimp advertisement, even if it is perfectly natural. So why would you show a naked baby? Because that's apples to bananas. Naked woman are sexually attractive to normal people.

Re: [Gimp-developer] Misnamed structure element in SFScript structure?

2004-02-09 Thread pcg
On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 07:35:08PM -0800, Manish Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: currently, and go beyond that with a full gtk and gimp binding. The same should be done for python (I have plans to do this) and perl, the idea being having languages besides C that can use the entire gimp API.

Re: [Gimp-developer] Misnamed structure element in SFScript structure?

2004-02-09 Thread pcg
On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 12:53:40AM -0800, Manish Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh sure, out of all the bindings, perl comes closest by far to full coverage. But iirc it doesn't wrap libgimpcolor, libgimpmath, some of libgimpwidgets, and libgimpthumb. Ah yes, I haven't looked into the new

Re: [Gimp-developer] Misnamed structure element in SFScript structure?

2004-02-05 Thread pcg
On Thu, Feb 05, 2004 at 01:06:58PM +0100, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think we should do that simply because I don't see what is so important about having a self-contained scripting language. I'd rather like to see three or four well-maintained and working scripting languages

Re: [Gimp-developer] Misnamed structure element in SFScript structure?

2004-02-03 Thread pcg
On Tue, Feb 03, 2004 at 05:30:19PM -0600, Tim Mooney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know any good reasons why Guile would be an inappropriate choice for replacing SIOD? As far as I remember, it was because it adds a rather big dependency, and people thought that gimp should come with at

Re: [Gimp-developer] Changes needed to DB Browser content?

2004-02-02 Thread pcg
On Mon, Feb 02, 2004 at 12:49:21PM -0500, Kevin Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DB Browser should be consistent for one language even if its just the abstract PDB language. I don't think it should have different 'modes' to have it show things depending on a user selectable plug-in language.

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Bug 132698 - Script-Fu constants vs DB Browser

2004-01-30 Thread pcg
On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 12:27:44PM -0500, Kevin Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the - vs _ use in function names by C vs. Script-Fu historical (as in typical of the respective languages)? Yupp. values for plug-ins based on different languages? DB Browser shows GIMP_RGB_IMAGE for an

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Bug 132698 - Script-Fu constants vs DB Browser

2004-01-30 Thread pcg
On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 11:57:32AM -0500, Kevin Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i.e.., strip the GIMP_-prefix, so the contants are the names with _ (easier to type in perl than -), but withouth the prefixes. Looks like a third set to me. A third set? I was afraid that might be the case.

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Bug 132698 - Script-Fu constants vs DB Browser

2004-01-30 Thread pcg
On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 02:19:56PM -0500, Kevin Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: regardless of plug-in language. On the other hand, if you want to create a new image using an indexed palette its easier to remember to use GIMP_INDEXED_IMAGE rather than 4 or was that INDEXED_IMAGE, or

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Windows suggestion

2004-01-29 Thread pcg
On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 01:19:14AM +0100, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: check if there's dominant empty space between them. If that's the case, the image window could be sized so that it fits into this space. I am not sure wether this is possible, as you only know the size of a window

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Re: Re: Alternative zoom algorithm

2004-01-20 Thread pcg
On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 01:24:15AM -0800, Manish Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, the bulk of the code in gimp that causes warnings is stuff like: void foo (void **p); void bar (void) { int *i; foo ((void **) i); } While it does break the letter of the law wrt aliasing rules,

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Re: Re: Alternative zoom algorithm

2004-01-19 Thread pcg
On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 02:22:57AM +0100, Simon Budig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: other parts, and I already had enough with C guts) and is small, it just fits in place with the old code instead of more deep changes. True. (These break strict aliasing rules warnings however are harmless

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Alternative zoom algorithm

2004-01-17 Thread pcg
On Sat, Jan 17, 2004 at 01:26:09PM +0100, GSR - FR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what people is used to or the levels for typical images and finaly get my patch encouragingly classified as evil, I think I will stop wasting time and keep my ideas and suggestions to myself. Get used to it, that's how

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: GIMP Aqua GTK+OSX

2003-12-27 Thread pcg
On Thu, Dec 25, 2003 at 02:12:22PM -0800, Robin Rowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As documented in our HOWTO, GIMP code is using quote marks instead of angle brackets when including some GTK library header files. That should not work. If that is true, the gimp developers would be rather happy for

Re: [Gimp-developer] Handling of transparent pixels

2003-12-16 Thread pcg
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 10:45:56PM +, Adam D. Moss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it's quite equivalent to letting the user take the saturation knob down to zero and then coming back later, turning up the saturation again and wondering where the original colours To just throw in another personal

Re: [Gimp-developer] Handling of transparent pixels

2003-12-16 Thread pcg
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 07:51:13PM +, Adam D. Moss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( Marc) (A.) (Lehmann ) wrote: While I sometimes find the erase tool conceptually difficult to use (maybe because it's so unusual), the question is wether this is just a weird added feature (as

Re: [Gimp-developer] Handling of transparent pixels

2003-12-16 Thread pcg
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 05:55:06PM -0200, Joao S. O. Bueno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, this will be quite possible with the custom layer mode I was cooking a couple months ago, and which I plan do revive to Gimp Right, still I disagree in practise, and here is why: While it can be

Re: [Gimp-developer] Updating Script-Fu scripts for GIMP 1.3+

2003-12-16 Thread pcg
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 04:09:45AM +0100, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Script-Fu scripts? In the days of GIMP 1.1.x there used to be a script which aided in the updating of Script-Fu scripts from the 1.0 API to the 1.1/1.2 API but I don't see one in the 1.3 CVS copy of GIMP.

Re: [Gimp-developer] Displaying image using GTK

2003-12-14 Thread pcg
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 12:46:54PM +0100, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This sounds like if you had a clue on what is causing the slowliness of running configure on Cygnus. The biggest reason is very slow fork(), followed by extremely slow select(), filehandle operations, pipes and much

Re: [Gimp-developer] Displaying image using GTK

2003-12-14 Thread pcg
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 01:08:20PM +, Adam D. Moss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a data point, I use a (optimized build) mingw cross-compiler hosted on linux, and the raw compilation itself takes a lot longer (50% longer, or more) than the same compiler version built That's interesting, but

Re: [Gimp-developer] Displaying image using GTK

2003-12-14 Thread pcg
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 12:46:27PM +, Roger Leigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MSYS does not depend on cygwin, BTW. It's entirely standalone. Why do you claim this if a few simple checks could have convinced you otherwise? At least the shell, which is just bash, is linked against the cygwin

Re: [Gimp-developer] Displaying image using GTK

2003-12-14 Thread pcg
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 05:13:30PM +, Tor Lillqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder, could the typical fork() immeditaly followed by exec() (in the child process) be somehow detected by Cygwin/MSYS, avoiding the need for emulating the full fork() semantics in this typical case? No, but

Re: [Gimp-developer] Dicom plug-in for gimp

2003-11-09 Thread pcg
On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 11:34:48PM +0200, Dov Grobgeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sven wanted to have a discussion whether this plug-in should be included If discussion means wants to see some opinions, then here we go :) - No, it should not be included, in general. - As long as there is no good

Re: [Gimp-developer] Status of gegl, gimp 3.0?

2003-11-05 Thread pcg
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 12:27:04PM +0100, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: avoid another large rewrite of the GIMP that would cause another endless development cycle. So at the moment we consider to start using some parts of GEGL after GIMP-2.0 is out. This does not necessarily mean that

Re: [Gimp-developer] bugs@gimp.org spam getting a little out of hand

2003-08-19 Thread pcg
On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 08:58:25PM +0100, Alan Horkan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Banning attachments and HTML email might be a tolerable compromise. A compromise that wouldn't even catch 1% of the mail isn't torable in my opinion (especially as it's not possible to filter for this). How can one

Re: [Gimp-developer] bugs@gimp.org spam getting a little out of hand

2003-08-19 Thread pcg
On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 03:02:18PM -0700, Manish Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Done. Damn, you were too fast :) Thanks for implementing it! -- -==- | ==-- _ | ---==---(_)__ __

Re: [Gimp-developer] style guide gimp-help-2

2003-08-19 Thread pcg
On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 07:32:24PM +0200, Daniel Egger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: book, see below) was anachronistic, more like a reference than a fluent style, every single part following the exactly same style like a manpage. We changed quite a lot and tried to enrich the content as much

Re: [Gimp-developer] Allow Maximise in Dialogs, like in Paint ShopPro 8

2003-08-17 Thread pcg
On Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 08:04:41PM +0100, Alan Horkan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bet you Five Euro Havoc Pennington will disagree and that the GIMP should be setting additional hints or suchlike. It already does, that is probably your problem. The ImageMap plugin has the a maximise window

Re: [Gimp-developer] Allow Maximise in Dialogs, like in Paint ShopPro 8

2003-08-17 Thread pcg
On Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 07:23:39PM +, Tor Lillqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry if this is a silly question, but does the maximize button on modern X11 window managers behave differently than in Windows? Doesn't it always make the window fill the whole screen? The maximize button does

Re: [Gimp-developer] Allow Maximise in Dialogs, like in Paint ShopPro 8

2003-08-16 Thread pcg
On Sat, Aug 16, 2003 at 01:21:05PM +0200, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (Keep in mind that users might be using text sizes larger than the defaults so static widget layouts are a really bad idea). In general all GIMP dialogs can be maximized and widgets reflow as you described.

Re: [Gimp-developer] Portable XCF

2003-08-16 Thread pcg
On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 03:41:28PM +0200, Tino Schwarze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW: Would it be possible to get a sparse file by zeroing the unused bits? Then it would be quite space efficient (at least with some file systems). No, there is no way to do that. You will need to copy the file

Re: [Gimp-developer] Portable XCF

2003-08-15 Thread pcg
On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 01:57:35PM +0200, Raphal Quinet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: included directly while others are included by reference. The main advantage of using XML is that it can easily be debugged by hand. The other arguments that have been discussed so far (for or against XML) are

Re: [Gimp-developer] Portable XFC

2003-08-15 Thread pcg
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 09:10:37PM +0200, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: point where no image manipulation program has gone before. However there is still the need for a good format for exchanging layered images between applications. So perhaps it makes sense to also develop such an I

Re: [Gimp-developer] [FEATURE] Some plug-in settings should bepersistent accross sessions

2003-08-14 Thread pcg
On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 09:45:46AM +0200, Raphal Quinet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be nice if preferences for plug-ins survived session changes. The way to do this might be in saving them to an rc file without providing an interface to changing them in the normal I doubt that we

Re: [Gimp-developer] [FEATURE] Some plug-in settings should bepersistent accross sessions

2003-08-05 Thread pcg
On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 02:03:09PM +0200, Raphal Quinet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look at the comment that I recently added in: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119032 IMHO, global parasites and immediate changes to the settings could make sense for the plug-ins that are used as

Re: [Gimp-developer] Giving a try to gimp-perl

2003-07-31 Thread pcg
On Sat, Jul 26, 2003 at 01:53:30AM +0200, David Gmez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using gimp 1.3.16 and gimp-perl from cvs, and i got some errors after running it, mainly in the Net.pm module. I post the output of the script, Most probably there is a problem starting the gimp. Try to run your

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-perl-cvs status

2003-07-24 Thread pcg
On Wed, Jul 23, 2003 at 03:33:55PM -0400, Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i am going to spend some time at my moms early next week. this might be one of those cool occasions where i can have the perl I got it working with tml's native build, linking msvcrt and cygwin.dll into the same

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-perl-cvs status / wingimp

2003-07-23 Thread pcg
On Wed, Jul 23, 2003 at 09:47:37AM -0400, Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: get this message from gimp that if i am elite enough to use threading, then i am elite enough to fix it. ;) i think if i pin perl from woody, i am elite enough to fix it. The problem is that debian woody uses an

[Gimp-developer] gimp-perl-cvs status

2003-07-22 Thread pcg
On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 02:51:16PM -0400, Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is it worth building the gimp-perl module from cvs yet? Depends on what you are needing it for. The evrsion in CVS seems to be fully working, except that none of the examples that use their own Gtk+ interface have

Re: [Gimp-developer] tentative GIMP 2.0 release plans

2003-07-21 Thread pcg
Sorry for the f'up to my own mail, but to avoid getting pushed into the troll corner I'd like to add this: The reason I am so insisting is that you continously misrepresent what people say, and the current climax is that you totally ignore that the overwhelming majority of people here said they

Re: [Gimp-developer] tentative GIMP 2.0 release plans

2003-07-21 Thread pcg
On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 04:36:53PM +0200, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is so insisting is that you are not telling the truth, and I wonder why you resort to that. I am not going to let you claim in public that I was lying to you or any other GIMP developer. I didn't claim

Re: [Gimp-developer] tentative GIMP 2.0 release plans

2003-07-19 Thread pcg
On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 09:59:22PM +0200, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: decision. We came to the point that it should be called 2.0. It's just a number, so please, before you start the discussion again, think twice if it's worth it. It's not just a number, it is also used in the

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: new-xcf [Re: Gimp-developer Digest, Vol 10,Issue 18]

2003-07-19 Thread pcg
On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 10:16:27PM +0200, Tomas Ogren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: vim? emacs? .. I bet there are many editors that can handle large text files.. One thing (to bring this more on-topic again) to note is that vim doesn't handle large (gigabytes) files nice, loading it into memory.

Re: [Gimp-developer] tentative GIMP 2.0 release plans

2003-07-19 Thread pcg
On Sat, Jul 19, 2003 at 12:10:54AM +0200, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gimp is more than Mitch and me, isn't it? Yes it is. And if you are really willing to continue this sinless discussion instead of helping us to get the release done, we can of This is *extremely* unfair. _You_

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: new-xcf

2003-07-18 Thread pcg
On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 09:45:51AM -0700, Manish Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Consider the case of a corrupted xcf file. Maybe only 1 layer out of 20 is corrupted. With this proposal, a user needs either a special tool to (in this case, tar and zip would be preferable over ar, as ar tools are

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP GBR format spec

2003-07-16 Thread pcg
On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 10:16:28AM -0400, Leonard Rosenthol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 08:38 AM 7/14/2003 -0400, Robert L Krawitz wrote: What happens if in the future someone writes a gimp-java interface (like gimp-perl)? Would there be any security issues there? No. I do not

Re: Menubar in fullscreen mode [Re: [Gimp-developer] the userinstaller]

2003-07-16 Thread pcg
On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 03:39:25PM +0200, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should I file a request in bugzilla, asking for a Fullscreen with Menu option or do you think it would not be worth adding? I think it is not worth to clutter the menu with this since the menu is always

Re: new-xcf (was:Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP GBR format spec)

2003-07-16 Thread pcg
On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 04:28:18PM +0100, Adam D. Moss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Technically I don't know if that's true. From my ar man page: GNU ar can maintain archives whose members have names of any length; however, depending on how ar is configured on your system,

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: new-xcf

2003-07-16 Thread pcg
On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 10:43:13PM +0200, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: designed as a GIMP-only format. People already use XCF in other apps simply because there is no reasonable format for layered images. That is not true. MIFF was around for years, for example, was always able to

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: [CinePaint-dev] GIMP GBR format spec

2003-07-11 Thread pcg
On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 04:08:21PM +0200, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in such an approach and I am sure that not many XML parsers will like CDATA blocks of several megabytes. _all_ xml parsers cope with cdata blocks of several megabytes. -- -==-

Re: [Gimp-developer] MMX in 1.3 tree

2003-07-11 Thread pcg
On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 01:17:49PM +0200, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: __asm__ __volatile__ () while the new code in The GIMP seems to be using asm() I don't know this stuff good enough to know the difference, but I'd __keyword__-style keywords are always there, even if gcc

Re: [Gimp-developer] MMX in 1.3 tree

2003-07-11 Thread pcg
On Fri, Jul 11, 2003 at 12:13:29PM +0200, Steinar H. Gunderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think there should be a % in the list of clobbered registers. yupp, there is no %mm1 register :) worse, I don't even think most versions of gcc know about MMX registers at versions 2.x (usually)

Re: [Gimp-developer] the user installer

2003-07-11 Thread pcg
On Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 06:48:08PM +0200, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: users. The dialog is great and much better than a html help page for example, but it's presented at a time people will have no clue what it means. Perhaps we should show it on every startup then ? It's

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP GBR format spec

2003-07-11 Thread pcg
On Fri, Jul 11, 2003 at 10:08:55AM -0400, Leonard Rosenthol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A JAR is a special type of ZIP archive, which contains one or more data files along with an XML manifest about the contents. I've worked on a number of projects (both commercial and open) that have

Re: [Gimp-developer] the user installer

2003-07-09 Thread pcg
On Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 11:23:57AM +0200, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: we should just drop a number of files in the user directory. Unlike the GNOME developers we don't expect our users to be stupid. We put a One need not be stupid to not understand the dialog, though. Even experienced

Re: [Gimp-developer] Suggestions + Patch, Redo - Part 1

2003-06-30 Thread pcg
On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 02:12:49PM +0200, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since the preferences toggle doesn't solve it at all, why do you call it a solution? Toggling it on does not work, as Sven said, as then mnemonics and dynamic shortcuts will clash. Sorry, but I don't think

Re: [Gimp-developer] Suggestions + Patch, Redo - Part 1

2003-06-27 Thread pcg
On Fri, Jun 27, 2003 at 04:07:29PM +0200, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, there is no need to change this at all, I was just under the wrong impression that it was dangerous to enable them *at all*, and not dangerous to enable them because I often bump my head on the caps at

Re: [Gimp-developer] Suggestions + Patch, Redo - Part 1

2003-06-27 Thread pcg
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 10:02:41AM -0300, Joao S. O. Bueno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know how much it's dictated by gtk2, but it seens weird that the GIMP usability gets hurt for changes on The Gimp Toolkit. Woaw, that sounding like a great argument, but I still think that gtk+ deserves

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