Re: [Gimp-developer] Joining the GNOME Foundation

2004-05-03 Thread Carol Spears
On Sat, May 01, 2004 at 05:56:43PM +0100, Adam D. Moss wrote: (we've enjoyed peripheral use of some of their services such as CVS for a while). my personal experience with gnome cvs is really bad. i am paraphrasing one of the developers i have a great deal of respect for (paraphrasing since

Re: [Gimp-developer] Donation for GIMP features

2004-05-03 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, J. Grant wrote: Hi, I wonder if there is any way I can donate money towards development of a specific feature addition in GIMP? We are currently working out two things which may be of interest - first, we are working to have a way to make tax deductible donations to the GIMP via another

Re: [Gimp-developer] Joining the GNOME Foundation

2004-05-03 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Dan, Daniel Rogers wrote: And if you are not a non-profit you need to pay taxes, wether or not you make money. (and if GIMP joins GNOME and abandons TGF, I'm the one that has to pay the 800 dollar minimum tax, I might add). I think that everyone should pool in together to pay this. I have

Re: [Gimp-developer] Joining the GNOME Foundation

2004-05-03 Thread Dave Neary
Carol Spears wrote: On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 08:04:04PM +0200, David Neary wrote: (we use their toolkit and infrastructure, a few years ago they used to use our toolkit), did the name change? as far as i know it is still the gimp tool kit. There are only a very small number of people who really

Re: [Gimp-developer] Plug-in howto

2004-05-03 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Bartekk, Bartekk wrote: i have a question about the development of plug-in. I want to use the plugin template u can get from the gimp site. The problem is I don't know which files are important. If I want to write a simple Gaussian Filter, how can I do that. Is there somebody who can give

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMPCon

2004-05-03 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: Well, I think we should discuss the road map (or whatever you prefer to call it) for the release to come after 2.2 (2.4? 3.0?). We need to talk about stuff like PDB rewrite, GEGL integration, next generation XCF, plug-in policies etc. Is anyone actually working on

Re: [Gimp-developer] Joining the GNOME Foundation

2004-05-03 Thread Branko Collin
On 2 May 2004, at 23:24, Carol Spears wrote: not using doc format was a really good suggestion, The solutions mankind has come up with to increase readability are diverse, and range from using open document formats to using capitals at the beginning of sentences and for the word 'I'. I

[Gimp-developer] OS X help with plugin

2004-05-03 Thread Alastair M. Robinson
Hi everyone, I've been asked by an OS X user if there's any chance of an OS X version of my CMYK plugin (at http://www.blackfiveservices.co.uk/separate.shtml). I don't have access to an OS X machine, so if there's any developer here who does and is willing to help out, please contact me. All

Re: [Gimp-developer] Plug-in howto

2004-05-03 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bartekk wrote: i have a question about the development of plug-in. I want to use the plugin template u can get from the gimp site. The problem is I don't know which files are important. If I want to write a simple Gaussian Filter, how can I do

Re: [Gimp-developer] Joining the GNOME Foundation

2004-05-03 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There are only a very small number of people who really believe this to be still the case. It may still be called the GIMP Toolkit (but more more I've heard it called the GNOME Toolkit), but that is a historical nod. The GIMP Toolkit is less a GIMP

Re: [Gimp-developer] Plug-in howto

2004-05-03 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Bartekk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i have a question about the development of plug-in. I want to use the plugin template u can get from the gimp site. The problem is I don't know which files are important. If I want to write a simple Gaussian Filter, how can I do that. For such a

Re: [Gimp-developer] Plug-in howto

2004-05-03 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Sven Neumann wrote: Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://gimp-plug-ins.sourceforge.net/doc/Writing/html/plug-in.html I don't think we should point people to this document any longer. It's outdated and should better be removed. http://developer.gimp.org/ is where we are collecting more

Re: [Gimp-developer] Joining the GNOME Foundation

2004-05-03 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Daniel Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: See the problem I see with the GINPOG attitude and joining GNOME is that we are saying we are willing to take your money and your time and your developers, but we are not willing to actually show any support for you in any way. It's kinda

Re: [Gimp-developer] Plug-in howto

2004-05-03 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Sven Neumann wrote: Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As part of preparing my guadec talk on writing a GIMP plug-in, I plan to update this document, so I'd prefer if it didn't get deleted just yet. In addition, it's quite nicely written with a type of tutorial feel, and it doesn't really

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp2 plugin porting problems

2004-05-03 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Stephan Menzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: to run two gimps at the same time now. The old one to do refocus and the new one for everything else. It's consuming lots of memory too so I would really like to see refocus working with 2.0. Any ideas or hints what to do or check next? Hoping it

Re: [Gimp-developer] status report from the development branch

2004-05-03 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, here's another summary of what's happening in the HEAD branch, what do watch out for if you want to join development and where help is needed... Mitch has almost finished the port of the menus to GtkUIManager. The new code is in use now and seems to work fine. The only remaining regression

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp2 plugin porting problems

2004-05-03 Thread Ernst Lippe
On Monday 03 May 2004 13:39, Stephan Menzel wrote: G'day! On Sunday 02 May 2004 21:32, Jean-Luc wrote: There is a patch for refocus on sourceforge. If was built for 1.3 but I have applied it and, with this patch applied, the plugin works for me [tm] with gimp 2.0.1. You can find the

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp2 plugin porting problems

2004-05-03 Thread Stephan Menzel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 03 May 2004 17:02, Ernst Lippe wrote: I think that I have found cause of the Stephan's problem. My plugin used GTK-2, so in the makefiles I had to use some tricks to get the correct include path and libraries. I could not directly use

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp2 plugin porting problems

2004-05-03 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Stephan Menzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: gimptool caused problems during configure and I tried several workarounds that seemed to work in the first place but this was some kind of wishful thinking. I did not have time to look at the patch at sourceforge, but it seems like Stephan is

Re: [Gimp-developer] Joining the GNOME Foundation

2004-05-03 Thread Daniel Rogers
Sven Neumann wrote: It's not that we wouldn't put a lot of effort into making GIMP work well on a GNOME desktop. Adhering to FreeDesktop standards is one of our goals and we are even working towards full GNOME HIG compliance. The only things we really want to avoid is to be forced to do any of

Re: [Gimp-developer] Joining the GNOME Foundation

2004-05-03 Thread Michael Schumacher
Daniel Rogers wrote: David Neary wrote: Are there any people opposed to closer ties with the GNOME Foundation? Well, GIMP is not part of GNOME, and this assertion was made repeatedly over the years. Apart from labeling GIMP more of a GNOME program, I wouldn't oppose (but I don't count much anyway

Re: [Gimp-developer] Joining the GNOME Foundation

2004-05-03 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Michael Schumacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thne fears that I - as a Win32 user - have are that by moving closer to GNOME, GIMP might become too linux-centric. If those fears are unjustified, I'd be glad to presented the facts that render them invalid. No facts, but since GIMP works

Re: [Gimp-developer] Joining the GNOME Foundation

2004-05-03 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On 3 May 2004, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There are only a very small number of people who really believe this to be still the case. It may still be called the GIMP Toolkit (but more more I've heard it called the GNOME Toolkit), but that is a

Re: [Gimp-developer] Donation for GIMP features

2004-05-03 Thread J. Grant
Hi Sven, IMHO, the plugins could be left un-bound to any window as they are atm. Or is there a hard coded underlying attachment between the plugin and parent windows required for it all to work? Are you saying that plug-in dialogs should be handled differently than core dialogs? If we want to

[Gimp-developer] new file-new dialog (Was: Joining the GNOME Foundation)

2004-05-03 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On 3 May 2004, Sven Neumann wrote: PS: See http://sven.gimp.org/gimp-new-image-dialog.png for an almost HIG compliant file-new dialog. This is a screenshot from the HEAD branch. Looks fantastic! I really like the hideaway Image Comment section. Here are just a few minor suggestions

Re: [Gimp-developer] Plug-in howto

2004-05-03 Thread David Neary
Hi Nathan, Nathan Carl Summers wrote: On 3 May 2004, Sven Neumann wrote: Well, dgo was started to finally give an alternative to this outdated sourceforge site, so please consider to help with dgo instead. It's in CVS, you have write access, feel free to improve it. Do you have to run

[Gimp-developer] Screenshots

2004-05-03 Thread David Neary
Hi all, I was just looking for some nice looking screenshots to show off on the GUADEC GIMP pages, and the best ones are all on developer.gimp.org It would be really cool to have lots lots of screenshots of the GIMP on www.gimp.org. Could someone from the web team take responsibility for this

Re: [Gimp-developer] status report from the development branch

2004-05-03 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Nathan Carl Summers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What I didn't address yet is the fact that the HIG suggests to left-align labels of UI controls while we currently consistenly right-align labels so that they are close to the control they are describing. I am not sure if I can follow the

Re: [Gimp-developer] new file-new dialog (Was: Joining the GNOME Foundation)

2004-05-03 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Nathan Carl Summers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Right-justify the contents of spin boxes, unless the convention in the user's locale demands otherwise. AFAIK GTK+ doesn't provide an API for this. Its just my opinion, but I think showing 3 places of precision past the decimal for

Re: [Gimp-developer] status report from the development branch

2004-05-03 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On 4 May 2004, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Nathan Carl Summers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What I didn't address yet is the fact that the HIG suggests to left-align labels of UI controls while we currently consistenly right-align labels so that they are close to the control they are

Re: [Gimp-developer] Screenshots

2004-05-03 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was just looking for some nice looking screenshots to show off on the GUADEC GIMP pages, and the best ones are all on developer.gimp.org The problem with the screenshots on dgo is that they are screenshots of the 1.3.x development version. Most of

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp Menu Reorganization

2004-05-03 Thread David Neary
Hi, Nathan Carl Summers wrote: The forward direction (menu XML to wiki text) should be trivial with xslt - the other way would probably be easier with perl or something. That's funny, I think of wiki - menu as being the forward direction. :) Weird. Perhaps you're sufferring an LSD

[Gimp-developer] Re: new file-new dialog (Was: Joining the GNOME Foundation)

2004-05-03 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Nathan Carl Summers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: PS: See http://sven.gimp.org/gimp-new-image-dialog.png for an almost HIG compliant file-new dialog. This is a screenshot from the HEAD branch. Looks fantastic! I really like the hideaway Image Comment section. Here are just a

Re: [Gimp-developer] Joining the GNOME Foundation

2004-05-03 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Sat, 1 May 2004, David Neary wrote: Hi all, Myself and Dan Rogers will be meeting with someone from the GNOME Foundation this week with the intention of having greater co-operation with them on things like money. For the moment, I am working under the supposition that the best option

Re: [Gimp-developer] new file-new dialog (Was: Joining the GNOME Foundation)

2004-05-03 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] accidentally forgot to cc the mailing list. Forwarded with his permission. Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 16:53:32 -0500 From: Seth Burgess [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Nathan Carl Summers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] new file-new dialog (Was:

[Gimp-developer] Re: new file-new dialog (Was: Joining the GNOME Foundation)

2004-05-03 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Mon, 3 May 2004, Seth Burgess wrote: Also, from the HIG: Its just my opinion, but I think showing 3 places of precision past the decimal for resolution is a bit excessive and I would hazard rarely adds any useful information. Good point. I disagree on the vertical separator - I think

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp Menu Reorganization

2004-05-03 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Sun, 2 May 2004, David Neary wrote: Sven Neumann wrote: Nathan Carl Summers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://wiki.gimp.org/gimp/GimpMenuReorganization Very nice. I wonder if there's a way to convert between the menu XML files and the Wiki content. That would make it possible to

Re: [Gimp-developer] status report from the development branch

2004-05-03 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On 3 May 2004, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, here's another summary of what's happening in the HEAD branch, what do watch out for if you want to join development and where help is needed... Mitch has almost finished the port of the menus to GtkUIManager. The new code is in use now and seems to

Re: [Gimp-developer] Plug-in howto

2004-05-03 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On 3 May 2004, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, dgo was started to finally give an alternative to this outdated sourceforge site, so please consider to help with dgo instead. It's in CVS, you have write access, feel free to improve it. Do you have to run