Plug-In manag(er|ing)

2000-01-31 Thread Marc Lehmann
Do you volunteer? No, but I did. I just created an almost empty plug-ins/gpim (on sourceforge), gpim = gimp plug-in manager (does anybody have a good expansion for "mel"? :) The first step for redistributable plug-ins is the plug-in layout specification: every plug-in is stored in a

Translation inconsistency

2000-01-31 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, as pointed out before, we have an inconsistency between the core and the plugins when it comes to the point if PDB blurb and PDB help should be translated or not. The situation right know is: In the core the short description and the longer help strings for the PDB functions are not

Re: Translation inconsistency

2000-01-31 Thread Nick Lamb
On Mon, Jan 31, 2000 at 01:53:47PM +0100, Sven Neumann wrote: In the core the short description and the longer help strings for the PDB functions are not marked for translation. This decision was made since the PDB help strings are considered to be targeted mainly at developers and

Re: Translation inconsistency

2000-01-31 Thread Tor Lillqvist
My vote: (B) don't mark the strings for translation, not in the core, neither in the plug-ins There is enough work for translators anyway, without having to translate stuff intended only for developers. --tml

Re: Print plug-in

2000-01-31 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
GIMP's a lot lighter than gnome-libs. I would substantially oppose any serious dependence on gnome-libs in GIMP. Especially since gnome-libs appears to depend on a library that is only available if you have RPM installed. Kelly, please don't spread FUD. People build gnome-libs on

Re: Translation inconsistency

2000-01-31 Thread Daniel . Egger
On 31 Jan, Sven Neumann wrote: (A) do nothing, ignore the problem (B) don't mark the strings for translation, not in the core, neither in the plug-ins (C) mark the core PDB strings for possible translation too Kick them -- Servus, Daniel

Re: Plug-In manag(er|ing)

2000-01-31 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Mon, 31 Jan 2000, Marc Lehmann wrote: Do you volunteer? No, but I did. I just created an almost empty plug-ins/gpim (on sourceforge), gpim = gimp plug-in manager (does anybody have a good expansion for "mel"? :) Marc, what did you smoke :-) ? Nils -- Nils Philippsen / Berliner

Re: Plug-In manag(er|ing)

2000-01-31 Thread Juergen A. Erhard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 "Nils" == Nils Philippsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nils On Mon, 31 Jan 2000, Marc Lehmann wrote: Do you volunteer? No, but I did. I just created an almost empty plug-ins/gpim (on sourceforge), gpim = gimp plug-in manager

Re: Print plug-in

2000-01-31 Thread Marc Lehmann
On Mon, Jan 31, 2000 at 04:33:53PM -0500, Federico Mena Quintero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the GIMP would gain a lot from using the core GNOME libraries; Just to throw in my opinion: gimp is _NOT part of gnome, other than in a technical way, and I personally think it is important that

Re: Plugins at Sourceforge

2000-01-31 Thread Daniel . Egger
On 28 Jan, Michael J. Hammel wrote: Do you mean language locales? I'm not very familiar with working with multi-language issues, but I have wondered why this isn't handled by the plug-ins directly. Because it won't work entirely this way... localisation works for everything but the menues

Re: Translation inconsistency

2000-01-31 Thread Kevin Cozens
If you need to tell USERS something important then it should not be in these strings, you should rather write a paragraph for the GUM. (B) don't mark the strings for translation, not in the core, neither in the plug-ins It depends on what is meant by having something important to tell

Re: Print plug-in

2000-01-31 Thread Marc Lehmann
On Tue, Feb 01, 2000 at 01:32:38AM +0100, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, tell me why we should recode all this on our own. It would not only be ridiculous to do so, I can also assure you that it is beyond our limits due to limited resources of good developers willing to spend

Re: Plug-In manag(er|ing)

2000-01-31 Thread Marc Lehmann
On Mon, Jan 31, 2000 at 11:32:00PM +0100, Nils Philippsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sourceforge), gpim = gimp plug-in manager (does anybody have a good expansion for "mel"? :) Marc, what did you smoke :-) ? Name and Conquer :-) -- -==-

Re: Print plug-in

2000-01-31 Thread Tomas Ogren
On 31 January, 2000 - Robert L Krawitz sent me these 4.1K bytes: From the user's perspective The Gimp is part of GNOME. For 1.2 this won't be really true, but only because of lack of development time to handle the changes. Is there serious concern here that user's will NOT want a

Re: Print plug-in

2000-01-31 Thread Marc Lehmann
On Tue, Feb 01, 2000 at 01:18:54AM +, Nick Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From the user's perspective The Gimp is part of GNOME. For 1.2 this won't be really true, but only because of lack of development time to handle the changes. Maybe I am misinformed... I have a different impression,

Re: Translation inconsistency

2000-01-31 Thread Marc Lehmann
(B) don't mark the strings for translation, not in the core, neither in the plug-ins BTW, _this_ is the solution 1.2 has (most probably) settled for. It depends on what is meant by having something important to tell the At the moment, it depends solely on wether it can be made to

Re: Plugins at Sourceforge

2000-01-31 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Mon, 31 Jan 2000 08:57:59 +0100 (CET), [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: additional plug-ins. Some things, like translations, must be part of the distribution currently. This needs to be fixed. :) Do you volunteer? I don't understand translations at all. :) Kelly

Re: Print plug-in

2000-01-31 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Mon, 31 Jan 2000 16:33:53 -0500, Federico Mena Quintero [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Kelly, please don't spread FUD. People build gnome-libs on Debian boxes, old broken Slackware boxes, FreeBSD, Solaris, and other beasts. What library are you talking about? popt. If you read gnome-hackers

Re: Print plug-in

2000-01-31 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Tue, 1 Feb 2000 01:18:54 +, Nick Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: From the user's perspective The Gimp is part of GNOME. There's no good reason for users to have this perception, though, since the only relation GIMP has with GNOME is that GNOME uses GIMP's custom-developed widget set, and

Re: Translation inconsistency

2000-01-31 Thread Marc Lehmann
On Mon, Jan 31, 2000 at 09:40:21PM +0100, Stanislav Brabec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not happy to hear about (B). I have already translated hundreds and hundreds of such string and I don't: The question is, where is it trnaslated? You can't translate it in plug-ins, you need to trnaslate

Re: Print plug-in

2000-01-31 Thread Tim Mooney
In regard to: Re: Print plug-in, Michael J. Hammel said (at 9:55pm on Jan...: GNOME-enabled is one thing. GNOME-dependent is another. Requiring GNOME libs on non Linux platforms may not be appreciated. If GNOME dependency is added, a determination on the difficulty on getting GNOME libs on