Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP development- What's the point?

2016-09-23 Thread Michael Schumacher
On September 23, 2016 5:41:02 PM GMT+02:00, Marco Ciampa wrote: >So the point is really "who cares about (some) OSX (users)"? We care about supporting platforms if there are people whom we get contribution from - be it contributed code, high-quality bug reports and

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP development- What's the point?

2016-09-23 Thread Stefan Peter
On 23.09.2016 17:41, Marco Ciampa wrote: > > So the point is really "who cares about (some) OSX (users)"? You are kidding, aren't you? When looking at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems linux does not even register as a desktop OS. And no, I have never possessed a

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP development- What's the point?

2016-09-23 Thread C R
Hi Shlomi! Thanks for weighing in, and for sharing your motivations. Also thanks for your past contributions and I too hope you can once again find time to contribute to GIMP in the future. I found your articles quite informative, and I like your comment about the Tinfoil hat (What Linus said

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP development- What's the point?

2016-09-23 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi C R! (or in the spirit of Talk Like a Pirate Day - "High Sea, arrr!".) On Fri, 23 Sep 2016 12:19:54 +0100 C R wrote: > I run a London Linux Meet, where a bunch of Linux and open source folks > have drinks and discuss Linux, and free software. > > At the last meet

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP development- What's the point?

2016-09-23 Thread Marco Ciampa
On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 01:14:38PM +, Marius Kjeldahl wrote: > While I am not a Gimp developer, I've been a keen user for many years. Same > goes for Inkscape. After having to do some native work on iOS, I started > working on Macs. In addition new laptop offerings kept making life as a >

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP development- What's the point?

2016-09-23 Thread C R
Yes, I always ask, because more often than not, it's just something small that's got them stuck. This particular user had tried GIMP, and "found it hard to use". I couldn't get any more clarification, as it was apparently "several years ago" that they had tried to use GIMP and had "forgotten the

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP development- What's the point?

2016-09-23 Thread Kevin Payne
>At the last meet I was showing off GIMP, as I often do when asked "what do >you do?" There's the usual ooohing and ahhing as I show what GIMP allows me >to do easily as a designer. > >This time, I got a strange comment from a new visitor to our group. He said >"GIMP development? What's the point

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP development- What's the point?

2016-09-23 Thread Michael Schumacher
On September 23, 2016 3:44:47 PM GMT+02:00, Marius Kjeldahl wrote: >AFAIK, on Inkscape things just looks a bit uglier. On Gimp, it's either >lose half the pixels, OR view everything at 2x zoomed. No way to grab >parts of a screen and view it next to the original on

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP development- What's the point?

2016-09-23 Thread C R
> > Also, my apologies about hijacking. I thought you wanted to know why most > people don't care about Gimp. > It's probably better to read an email/post carefully before responding. That was not at all the question. :P You could easily start a complaint email thread or a bug report for that

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP development- What's the point?

2016-09-23 Thread Marius Kjeldahl
Sorry if you don't get the issue. It's not about simply zooming out. Also, my apologies about hijacking. I thought you wanted to know why most people don't care about Gimp. Many people who try do not realize why things look bad in Gimp when they try it (compared to every other editor on Macs), so

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP development- What's the point?

2016-09-23 Thread Liam R. E. Quin
On Fri, 2016-09-23 at 12:19 +0100, C R wrote: > [...] > I just wanted to again say thanks, and relay that even on days where > it > seems no one has anything good to say about GIMP, you've got fans who > genuinely appreciate the work you do, and believe in what GIMP is, > and > enjoy what it will

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP development- What's the point?

2016-09-23 Thread C R
> > AFAIK, on Inkscape things just looks a bit uglier. On Gimp, it's either > lose half the pixels, OR view everything at 2x zoomed. So... zooming OUT is out of the question for some strange reason? :P (snip) > I lived through many mysteriously blurred images before I realized what was >

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP development- What's the point?

2016-09-23 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 4:36 PM, Marius Kjeldahl wrote: > inkscape.org states it's a professional editor for Mac OS X. Care to guess > which Macs most professionals use? > > The same claim is made on gimp.org: "Gimp ... sophisticated tools to get the > your job done." > > So if you want to be

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP development- What's the point?

2016-09-23 Thread Marius Kjeldahl
AFAIK, on Inkscape things just looks a bit uglier. On Gimp, it's either lose half the pixels, OR view everything at 2x zoomed. No way to grab parts of a screen and view it next to the original on the same screen without losing half the pixels. That'a a pretty major issue IMHO. And to be honest, I

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP development- What's the point?

2016-09-23 Thread Michael Schumacher
On September 23, 2016 3:25:33 PM GMT+02:00, Marius Kjeldahl wrote: >Doesn't the linked blog post explain it already? So the tl;dr is: there is no support for retina display (or other high dpi displays). Or did I miss any other kissues in the post? -- Regards,

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP development- What's the point?

2016-09-23 Thread Jeffrey Brent McBeth
On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 09:24:50AM -0400, Partha Bagchi wrote: > On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Marius Kjeldahl > wrote: > > > ... > > I've waited years for Gimp and Inkscape to support Macs, but sadly they > > still don't. They barely "run", but they aren't usable.

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP development- What's the point?

2016-09-23 Thread Marius Kjeldahl
inkscape.org states it's a professional editor for Mac OS X. Care to guess which Macs most professionals use? The same claim is made on gimp.org: "Gimp ... sophisticated tools to get the your job done." So if you want to be pedantic, sure, no claim is made about HIDPI support. So I guess you are

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP development- What's the point?

2016-09-23 Thread C R
Not to mention that GNU/Linux is NOT a Unix. ;P At any rate, still curious to hear from real developers in the GIMP project, and motivation for working on the project. If I want to hear about why Mac enthusiasts don't like GIMP (or Inkscape), I'll defo post the question to the GIMP user mailing

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP development- What's the point?

2016-09-23 Thread Partha Bagchi
I see. I haven't noticed any ill-effects of using my GIMP build on my Macbook pros Mid 2014 (retina display). But that's me. On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 9:26 AM, Maurizio Loreti wrote: > > > On 23 set 2016, at 15:24, Partha Bagchi wrote: > > > > Can

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP development- What's the point?

2016-09-23 Thread Marius Kjeldahl
Doesn't the linked blog post explain it already? Thanks, Marius K. On Fri, 23 Sep 2016 at 15:24 Partha Bagchi wrote: > > > On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Marius Kjeldahl < > marius.kjeld...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> ... > > >> I've waited years for Gimp and Inkscape to

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP development- What's the point?

2016-09-23 Thread Partha Bagchi
On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Marius Kjeldahl wrote: > ... > I've waited years for Gimp and Inkscape to support Macs, but sadly they > still don't. They barely "run", but they aren't usable. I wrote a blog post > with the details: > >

[Gimp-developer] GIMP development- What's the point?

2016-09-23 Thread C R
I run a London Linux Meet, where a bunch of Linux and open source folks have drinks and discuss Linux, and free software. At the last meet I was showing off GIMP, as I often do when asked "what do you do?" There's the usual ooohing and ahhing as I show what GIMP allows me to do easily as a