On Thu, 2012-05-17 at 22:49 -0400, Nicolas Robidoux wrote:
I agree that Import/Save/Export is likely to make complete sense to
the target user of GIMP 2.10.
I also have the impression that it may be quite effective at informing
soon-to-be-former-users that they are not members of the target
One thing that can be useful for who does not read release notes is a tip
that appear when an image opened from a format different by xfc is saved.
The tip can be: Gimp now save images as xfc internal format. If you want
to save in different format use Export. If you want save in the original
Hi
First of all it is a great tool! And I love it. but I found some strange
behaviour, so before I start a new bugreport, I wanted to ask you, if
this is a bug or just something that's got to do with my system (Linux
Xubuntu)
First: when I made a cage and want to adjust the knots, I can't.
Jason Simanek jsimanek at gmail.com writes:
This is getting old. All they gotta do is go use some other FREE
graphics application. Most of these complaints could be addressed by
simply changing their keyboard shortcuts to use the overwrite
command instead. I always change about 60% of the
ups - the second picture-link was wrong
http://ws.kreativ-workshops.net/gimp2-8/einst/screens/bild386.png
Am 18.05.2012 08:44, schrieb Anke Lange:
Hi
First of all it is a great tool! And I love it. but I found some
strange behaviour, so before I start a new bugreport, I wanted to ask
you,
Markus Heiler shevegen at gmail.com writes:
- What other image-editor can I use on Linux?
pixlr. It's a web app, not a standalone app. But it's pretty awesome.
It may not have ALL the features Gimp has, but it also has some it doesn't,
such as layer styles or some basic shape drawing options.
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 8:13 AM, gfxuser gfx.u...@online.de wrote:
Hi,
the last thread reminded me of a question, which I had for some longer and I
couldn't find the right answer yet:
Who is the targeted audience of GIMP?
1)
Hi!
My 2c on the issue - This change is GOOD not only for the target
audience but to the novice too! You would not belive how may times
people new to graphics have come to varoius gimp channels asking how i
can change text on this here image I saved from gimp yesterday as jpg
or png and I have
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Anke Lange gimp-werkst...@gmx.de wrote:
First: when I made a cage and want to adjust the knots, I can't. I have to
create a new cage. But when I create the cage new and close it, it cuts my
picture into bits. The only way to avoid this, yet, is to restart Gimp
Thanks Alexia
that does help :)
by the way, the examples I made were made on transparent background, I
only added a white layer to make it easier to see the cage.
Anke
Am 18.05.2012 10:01, schrieb Alexia Death:
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Anke Langegimp-werkst...@gmx.de wrote:
First:
I've been using GIMP to play around with some lighting, color, and GEGL
operations on images.
What I've noticed is that the Open file dialog is very poorly constructed
and it has become a problem. I'm using Win7 x64.
Nicely put, it's unintuitive.
These are suggested fixes, and you can choose more
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Ryan Johnson wrote:
3. Use the native Open file dialog.
and
Bigger Goal:
Improve the Open file dialog to include other viewing modes besides a
detail list. It's a graphics program after all! Appeal to the senses!
are mutually exclusive on Windows.
And
On 18.05.2012 09:33, Ryan Johnson wrote:
I've been using GIMP to play around with some lighting, color, and GEGL
operations on images.
What I've noticed is that the Open file dialog is very poorly
constructed and it has become a problem. I'm using Win7 x64.
Nicely put, it's unintuitive.
These
Am 18.05.12 09:33, schrieb Ryan Johnson:
Hi Ryan,
I checked your complaints with GIMP 2.8 with the following results:
1. Raise the file size limit for autogeneration of thumbnails.
Many of my JPEGs are just slightly over 3 MB or whatever the small
current limit is. Many of my RAW NEF files
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 12:59 PM, gfxuser gfx.u...@online.de wrote:
I wouldn't say that. On Windows 7 the native 'open file' dialog contains
different views: list, details, symbols in various sizes, tiles.
This is exactly what I was referring to.
There's no need to sit down and create a patch
On 18 May 2012 11:18, Alexandre Prokoudine
alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 12:59 PM, gfxuser gfx.u...@online.de wrote:
I wouldn't say that. On Windows 7 the native 'open file' dialog contains
different views: list, details, symbols in various sizes, tiles.
This
On 18.05.12 10:59, gfxuser wrote:
I wouldn't say that. On Windows 7 the native 'open file' dialog contains
different views: list, details, symbols in various sizes, tiles. Symbols
and tiles contain a preview of every file. IIRC it was similar with
Windows XP. I think, that's what the OP
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Kurt Pruenner wrote:
But for XCF files that's not very useful as GIMP doesn't come with an
XCF IThumbnailProvider, so all XCF files would only show the Wilber file
icon at it's highest resolution instead of a preview... :(
And that's another task for an
Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
And that's another task for an interested developer.
How about making a publicly available list of platform-specific tasks?
From my point of view a good idea.
Something to start from:
for Mac:
On 05/18/2012 10:24 AM, gg wrote:
Calling it save workspace makes it instantly clear that it will not
writing back to the source image and that any layers etc and work in
progress will be safe.
I would expect Save Workspace to save the arrangement of windows and
panels. Maybe also the
This is how things work in NIP2. (I am not holding NIP2 as a paragon
of beginner friendliness by no means. Just brainstorming, and adapting
things a bit to what I understand of GIMP.)
Open/Save have to to with loading/saving from/into the file system
(the hard disk).
Two kinds of objects can be
Once GEGL becomes the operative system, XCF can be understood as the
tree that leads to a specific image.
Save tree?
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On 05/18/2012 02:18 PM, Nicolas Robidoux wrote:
Once GEGL becomes the operative system, XCF can be understood as the
tree that leads to a specific image.
Save tree?
project would have my vote.
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Whimsically, save workspace/XCF/image could be save forest/tree/leaf.
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There are a couple of user scenarios that are not on the list, that I
hope can be included. These are:
- Creating original art from scratch (basically drawing and
painting...this is mainly what I use GIMP for). Actually, it works
pretty nicely for this as is...but it would be nice to see it
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Nicolas Robidoux wrote:
Once GEGL becomes the operative system, XCF can be understood as the
tree that leads to a specific image.
Save tree?
Save the trees
Save the bees
Save the wales
Save those snails
(c) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eScDfYzMEEw
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Michael Grosberg wrote:
If an image is saved to a lossy format, it could be decided that the first
time
you attempt to do this, an alert will explain to you that repeated saving to
JPG
corrupts the image. A checkbox in the dialog will enable you to prevent
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 9:01 AM, Jernej Simončič jer...@ena.si wrote:
Err, why? I find the Windows dialog boxes infinitely more usable than
GTK+'s (especially after the latest improvement with the Recent
list).
The GTK+ file chooser does seem to be horrible, and I'm not sure why.
Here's a
gfxuser wrote:
the last thread reminded me of a question, which I had for some longer and I
couldn't find the right answer yet:
Who is the targeted audience of GIMP?
since I am used to doing a briefing on this, for GIMP design
projects and also recently the start of a university usability
Hello list
I can't really understand what all this fuss is about.
All grafical programms I know of work this way. You only save in the
programs own format and export to a diffent like png, jpg or pdf...
It is only a kind of getting used to it in GIMP, when you have been
working with it for
Metaphor: A tree (.xcf) will grow away from the forest
(project/workspace), but a leaf (.jpg or .png) cut away from the tree
won't.
(And yes, I am perfectly aware that in a graph theory sense what I'm
proposing to call a leaf is actually a root. The point here is to
communicate the key
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 4:24 AM, gg g...@catking.net wrote:
...
In any other context opening a file and then saving it, the user will
*expect to be saving the file* . Why try to redefine what the world already
does.
...
Here is a trivial change that would immediately take care of the
http://gui.gimp.org/index.php/Vision_briefing
Beautiful. Clear.
Is *speed* really inferred from the vision?
tools get out of the way of getting things done and allow for accelerating
the workflow
This talks of a *non obstructive interface*, which appeals to me, but how
is speed a
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Nicolas Robidoux wrote:
Here is a trivial change that would immediately take care of the
confusion that lead to the top post of this thread:
Exchange the ACTIONS of open - import and save - export.
That is:
import/export is for XCF.
save/open is for
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 6:31 PM, Srihari Sriraman wrote:
Is speed really inferred from the vision?
tools get out of the way of getting things done and allow for accelerating
the workflow
This talks of a non obstructive interface, which appeals to me, but how is
speed a necessity?
This is
Yet another completely different (and rather radical) idea: If the
user saves as JPEG (say), GIMP automatically and silently saves the
XCF alongside it or in a special folder. Then Open/Save does
everything you want, and when the beginner user reopens the JPEG, he
can be asked if he/she wants to
From my perspective, what kind of filepicker dialog an application uses goes a
long way in making it look like a native app for its target platform.
Allowing the Windows version of GIMP to incorporate the native Win32
filepicker dialog would be a huge improvement at least in platform-specific
Terminology ideas:
.xcf: composition (composition suggests result of compositing as well
as its process, which is a fitting description, I think) or project
Everything (tools, frames, input and output images...): session,
workspace or project.
.jpg or .png or .tif or ...: image
peter sikking wrote:
gfxuser wrote:
the last thread reminded me of a question, which I had for some longer and I
couldn't find the right answer yet:
Who is the targeted audience of GIMP?
since I am used to doing a briefing on this, for GIMP design
projects and also recently the start of a
Am 18.05.2012 16:49, schrieb Nicolas Robidoux:
Yet another completely different (and rather radical) idea: If the
user saves as JPEG (say), GIMP automatically and silently saves the
XCF alongside it or in a special folder.
this idea was considered and rejected two years ago.
However, for a
Going to split this because it really NEEDS some wider discussion. There's no
nice way of phrasing it - in the current GIMP this distinction is a total snafu.
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From: grosberg.mich...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 06:45:22 +
Subject: Re:
On 18.05.2012 15:53, Anke Lange wrote:
Hello list
I can't really understand what all this fuss is about.
All grafical programms I know of work this way.
+1
Regards
Stefan Peter
--
In summary, I think you are trying to solve a problem that may not
need to be solved, using a tool that is
On 18/05/2012, Richard Gitschlag strata_ran...@hotmail.com wrote:
Going to split this because it really NEEDS some wider discussion. There's
no nice way of phrasing it - in the current GIMP this distinction is a total
snafu.
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From:
On 05/18/12 19:47, Richard Gitschlag wrote:
When I filed bug #675385 about the export/overwrite distinction the
overall response was notabug, but Michael Natterer did also comment that:
Michael Natterer
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/page.cgi?id=describeuser.htmllogin=mitch%40gimp.org
[GIMP
În data de Fri, 18 May 2012 12:25:34 +0400, Alexandre Prokoudine a
scris:
are mutually exclusive on Windows.
And with the latter request you are telling us to patch the upstream
GTK+ dialog.
The Windows Inkscape version uses Windows native file open and save
dialog, so some solution appears
Hi All,
For the Gaussian blur gegl tool, is it possible to link the X Y size
settings so that they scroll together? More often than not, you are
likely to use the same value in both directions.
Thanks,
Partha
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In my opinion the language of the draft is not inviting to contribution. At
minimum, each of the has tos should be changed to either shoulds or should
strive tos. Also, it is unclear whether the final does not have to be
perfect trumps any or all of the previous seven bullet points -- if it
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