Re: [Gimp-developer] caching considerations in gegl

2003-03-11 Thread Daniel Rogers
Ernst Lippe wrote: On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 17:12:14 +0100 Raphaël Quinet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 16:38:13 +0100, Ernst Lippe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 09:46:49 + Adam D. Moss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that the user should be able to edit the alpha

Re: [Gimp-developer] caching considerations in gegl

2003-03-11 Thread Daniel Rogers
Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 06:36:47PM +0100, Sven Neumann wrote: which operation (besides the evil anti-erase) wouldn't have such a color information? The only operation I can think of that makes a transparent pixel non-transparent is some sort of painting with one of the

Re: [Gimp-developer] caching considerations in gegl

2003-03-11 Thread Daniel Rogers
Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 10:15:51AM -0800, Daniel Rogers wrote: Alpha is a measure of the amount of coverage of the pixel. (e.g. an alpha of .5 means half the pixel is covered). In particular, 0 alpha means that the pixel is not covered at all. This means

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: caching considerations in gegl

2003-03-11 Thread Daniel Rogers
Would just antierase users be happy with layers masks? This feature is ignored a lot, and I think it does the same, you hide and unhide areas as you want, keeping the colour info. If yes, get rid of antierase. GSR Or, as I suggested in an earlier email, but I don't think was stated very

Re: [Gimp-developer] caching considerations in gegl

2003-03-11 Thread Daniel Rogers
Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 11:41:30AM -0800, Daniel Rogers wrote: Weight the pixel value by the alpha value, just like you do with any other operation on pixels. This makes sense when alpha is defined to be the coverage. If a pixel is only really half covered

Re: [Gimp-developer] caching considerations in gegl

2003-03-11 Thread Daniel Rogers
Adam D. Moss wrote: In addition to alpha (the measure of coverage) you could also include transparency (which is something a measure of how much light passes through, i.e. the actual transparency of glass, as opposed the the coverage of a screen, this is equivilent to insisting on a layer mask to

Re: [Gimp-developer] caching considerations in gegl

2003-03-11 Thread Daniel Rogers
Simon Budig wrote: Sorry, this is a step back towards Gimp 0.54 where you had no embedded alpha channel in the images and compositing of two images (that had to have the same size) was done via a third grayscale image (that also had to have the same size). I am not suggesting that alpha is gotten

Re: [Gimp-developer] caching considerations in gegl

2003-03-11 Thread Daniel Rogers
Simon Budig wrote: Sorry, this is a step back towards Gimp 0.54 where you had no embedded alpha channel in the images and compositing of two images (that had to have the same size) was done via a third grayscale image (that also had to have the same size). Incidentally, this is precisely what

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: caching considerations in gegl

2003-03-11 Thread Daniel Rogers
David Necas (Yeti) wrote: If you want to implement anti-erase as a layer mask, then for antierase to be available, this layer mask (not shown to user) has to be present all the time (if not, the information needed for anti-erase would be lost). But how this situation differs from separate alpha

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: caching considerations in gegl

2003-03-11 Thread Daniel Rogers
David Necas (Yeti) wrote: OK, I could use alpha in a wrong sense, it's a matter of definition, and let's agree on yours (though I wonder how's called the object alpha==0 pixels are part of, because I can draw on them, unlike pixels outside layer boundaries, so they exist and are part of

Re: [Gimp-developer] caching considerations in gegl

2003-03-11 Thread Daniel Rogers
Simon Budig wrote: Sorry, but I don't believe that this destinction would make sense. From my point of view transparency/opacity and coverage are two models to explain what happens when talking about alpha. I do know that the original Porter Duff paper based its conclusions on the coverage model,

Re: [Gimp-developer] Slow preview on highres images]

2003-06-11 Thread Daniel Rogers
Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Damien Genet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why can't you launch a « Gimp Fund » through paypal, like the Blender foundation did ? I think that the Gimp has much more visibility than Blender did, and would have no problems raising money. Actually, it may even help to boost

Re: [Gimp-developer] GimpCon RFC: Portable XCF

2003-08-14 Thread Daniel Rogers
Leonard Rosenthol wrote: At 11:42 PM -0700 8/13/03, Manish Singh wrote: GEGL uses XYZ as a native format. Why? Lab is a richer model esp. for handling chromanicity and is also a standard in the print world natively. Why limit to XYZ?? I am not sure what you mean by a richer model.

Re: [Gimp-developer] Second try

2003-08-14 Thread Daniel Rogers
NPO assests must be sold to another public-benefit NPO, so a hostile takeover of an NPO isn't really possible. -- Daniel Rogers ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer

[Gimp-developer] bugs@gimp.org spam getting a little out of hand

2003-08-19 Thread Daniel Rogers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Has anyone else noticed how the [EMAIL PROTECTED] spam is getting a little out of hand? perhaps now would be a good time to change that address. - -- Dan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla

Re: [Gimp-developer] Firmed out roadmap

2003-08-25 Thread Daniel Rogers
David Neary wrote: You probably see that I had anticipated doing a release tomorrow (as anticipated at camp) as a prelude to a bug week... I just had a look, and make distcheck just failed on me in the po files, so I'm going to need to look more closely at that, and might not have a release until

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: [Gimp-user] Firmed out roadmap

2003-08-27 Thread Daniel Rogers
Sven Neumann wrote: Don't get me wrong. I think your schedule is reasonable and we should definitely publish a roadmap but IMO it shouldn't include any dates. what about sufficiently vague date? ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Gimp-developer] Kudos to The GIMP Developers!

2003-09-24 Thread Daniel Rogers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tino Schwarze wrote: | Hi there, | | I'd just like to say: Well done. I managed to create a A1 poster at 600 | dpi - a whopping 1.1 Gig of picture data (about 2x14000 pixels). | While GIMP 1.2.4 crashed while rendering the fractal, GIMP 1.3.20 |

[Gimp-developer] Re: [Gimp-user] Noise reduction

2003-09-26 Thread Daniel Rogers
Steve Crane wrote: Hi, Are there any built-in functions or scripts for the GIMP that can be used to remove or reduce noise in digital photographs? Does anyone have a set of steps to follow to remove noise? There are several stand-alone programs available for Windows that do this but I haven't

[Gimp-developer] The Gimp Foundation

2003-10-12 Thread Daniel Rogers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I am not subscribed to gimp-web, so if you are only replying to that address, I won't get the message As was discussed at Gimp Con 2003 (and before, frankly) I am in the process of incorporating The GIMP Foundation as a non-profit organization devoted

[Gimp-developer] Re: [Gimp-user] The Gimp Foundation

2003-10-13 Thread Daniel Rogers
Sven Neumann wrote: This sounds a lot more like an attempt to bring WilberWorks Wilber what? I plead ignorant. back to life than what I was imaging from such a foundation. IMO it should be a lot less commercially oriented but maybe I am only getting a wrong impression from looking at this list.

Re: [Gimp-developer] The Gimp Foundation

2003-10-13 Thread Daniel Rogers
Also, I fear my first email may have been a bit to rambling to be able to actually get my point across. What I am hoping to discover by encourging this conversation is what ways people would like to help with TGF and in what ways people would like to see TGF help them. I would also like to

Re: [Gimp-developer] The Gimp Foundation

2003-10-13 Thread Daniel Rogers
Carol Spears wrote: When I looked into this sometime back, I watched the gnome foundation elections on the irc. This is probably not the best view of a foundation, however, I really wanted nothing to do with it. We don't need to structure our Foundation (or even have membership) if we don't want

[Gimp-developer] Re: [Gimp-user] The Gimp Foundation

2003-10-13 Thread Daniel Rogers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sven Neumann wrote: | Thanks a lot for organizing this. you're welcome. - -- Dan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

[Gimp-developer] Re: [Gimp-user] The Gimp Foundation

2003-10-19 Thread Daniel Rogers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 For those of you who were wondering why you couldn't verify my signiture: there you are. I had forgotten this problem existed. Thanks, John, for informing me of this. John Dietsch wrote: | Daniel, Where is your public key? I can't verify your

Re: [Gimp-developer] Major corrections in Curves and Levels dialogs.

2003-10-20 Thread Daniel Rogers
Piotr Legiecki wrote: Hello Guys, For a long time we were waiting for GIMP to become a real pro tool for serious photographers. The scarcity of well designed tools for UNIX is obvious. What *have to be* changed as soon as possible: 1) Levels dialog - *linear* histogram as in histogram

[Gimp-developer] Re: Major corrections in Curves and Levels dialogs.

2003-10-24 Thread Daniel Rogers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sven Neumann wrote: | Hi, | | Piotr Legiecki [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | |1) Levels dialog - *linear* histogram as in histogram tool. | | | I've done some changes and the histogram scale is now part of the | tool-options of all tools that use a

[Gimp-developer] GIMP at COMDEX

2003-11-13 Thread Daniel Rogers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Evening GIMPers, Gimp is going to COMDEX. I just found out that I would be able to go tonight. Now I am kinda panicing about the kind of things I should present. Here are some quick ideas, before I go to sleep. If anyone has anything in particular

[Gimp-developer] COMDEX debrief

2003-11-20 Thread Daniel Rogers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Here is my defense of carol's arguments. 1. Yosh is pretty darn right about who did what with regard to COMDEX. 2. I don't feel a need to justify my role here in this community to you. ~ Especially since no one else seems to mind my commitment. 3.

Re: [Gimp-developer] Fwd: [GUG] CMYK under Gimp.

2003-11-20 Thread Daniel Rogers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kai-Uwe Behrmann wrote: | Am 18.11.03, 22:49 +0100 schrieb Sven Neumann: | | |correction filters. If these plug-ins and modules all use lcms and |share ICC profiles by means of gimprc and parasites, you could use | | | Have gimps configure an header

Re: [Gimp-developer] Fwd: [GUG] CMYK under Gimp.

2003-11-21 Thread Daniel Rogers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kai-Uwe Behrmann wrote: | Am 20.11.03, 21:10 -0800 schrieb Daniel Rogers: | | |I am working on an api for this in GEGL. It is probably best to use the |system api's, when available, since there are already methods to plug |lcms into the exisiting

[Gimp-developer] Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Fwd: [GUG] CMYK under Gimp.

2003-11-21 Thread Daniel Rogers
GSR - FR wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (2003-11-21 at 0834.36 +0100): This would be fine for unix based systems too. Are there any plans to create an system interface for X to plug-in an CMM? Do You know someone allready working on this? apropos Xcms should give you some man pages, here it does. If

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP at GUADEC

2003-11-25 Thread Daniel Rogers
David Neary wrote: Hi all, Following up from the mail last week discussing the date and location of GIMPCon, here's the state of play on the various possibilities discussed. 1) GUADEC: The GNOME crowd are delighted to have us, the guadec planning committee are very eager, and are now planning a

Re: [Gimp-developer] multilayer tiff

2003-11-27 Thread Daniel Rogers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kai-Uwe Behrmann wrote: | Hi, | | Am 27.11.03, 13:42 +0100 schrieb Sven Neumann: | | |There is no way a GIMP plug-in can support multiple versions and even |a completely different app and at the same time be readable and |maintainable code. In my

Re: [Gimp-developer] [gimpwin-users] Re: Gimp 1.3.23 available

2003-12-01 Thread Daniel Rogers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tor Lillqvist wrote: | Tor Lillqvist writes: | Possibly the lcms.dll in the lcms11.zip file isn't suitable as such | to be used from GIMP, but will have to be rebuilt from source. | | Yes, that seems to be the case. I don't know the technical

Re: [Gimp-developer] I don't usually post remove requests to the list...

2003-12-10 Thread Daniel Rogers
Michael Graff wrote: But, will the list maintainer PLEASE remove me? I have followed the http links in the headers. I have mailed the email addresses in them. I have mailed [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have gotten no replies, or results. You are forgivin. Our lists have been broken for some time.

Re: [Gimp-developer] I don't usually post remove requests to the list...

2003-12-10 Thread Daniel Rogers
Daniel Rogers wrote: Michael Graff wrote: But, will the list maintainer PLEASE remove me? I have followed the http links in the headers. I have mailed the email addresses in them. I have mailed [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have gotten no replies, or results. You are forgivin. Our lists have

Re: [Gimp-developer] after the prerelease

2004-01-07 Thread Daniel Rogers
Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, OK, the prerelease is out and the first bugs were found and fixed. After the prerelease is before the prerelease. We still have about 70 bugs on the 2.0 milestone. Our goal should now be to target this list. Not all these bugs need to be fixed before 2.0. A few,

[Gimp-developer] gegl query

2004-01-24 Thread Daniel Rogers
Jakub Friedl (listy) wrote: it would be nice. btw, how far is the gegl development? when we can expect gegl based release of gimp to be made? 2005? I have been working on the pixel access stuff, some ICC colorspace classes using lcms, and some swap stuff. That should be done in a few weeks.

Re: [Gimp-developer] gegl query

2004-01-24 Thread Daniel Rogers
Daniel Rogers wrote: Hopefully it won't be that long to a next stable release of gimp. It would be nice to see it in 2004 (albeit late 2004). I have been asked to point out that is is my opinion and noone has made any specific plans. (From talking with other open source projects, 9-12 month

Re: [Gimp-developer] Misnamed structure element in SFScript structure?

2004-02-03 Thread Daniel Rogers
Sven Neumann wrote: All of this would probably be best solved by redoing Script-Fu using a full-featured and actively maintained Scheme implementation. Might I suggest Guile? http://www.gnu.org/software/guile/guile.html It seems almost ready made to be stuck into the gimp. -- Dan

Re: [Gimp-developer] Misnamed structure element in SFScript structure?

2004-02-03 Thread Daniel Rogers
Simon Budig wrote: Marc Lehmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Tue, Feb 03, 2004 at 05:30:19PM -0600, Tim Mooney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know any good reasons why Guile would be an inappropriate choice for replacing SIOD? As far as I remember, it was because it adds a rather big

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Win GIMP

2004-02-04 Thread Daniel Rogers
There has also been discussion about some MDI type interface, although the main developers seem dead against it, mainly on account of that they feel this is something that should be solved using the window manager, not the application. Please note that GIMP does MDI (multiple document

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp on OS X

2004-02-25 Thread Daniel Rogers
On Feb 25, 2004, at 2:12 PM, Daniel Egger wrote: On Feb 25, 2004, at 10:11 am, Sven Neumann wrote: Did you increase the shared memory limit? I am not sure what happens if it the X server hits the limit but I guess it just silently stops allocating more shared memory. Err, I know somewhat how to

Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp on OS X

2004-02-26 Thread Daniel Rogers
Daniel Egger wrote: On Feb 25, 2004, at 11:27 pm, Daniel Rogers wrote: sysctl -w kern.sysv.shmmax=41943040 sysctl -w kern.sysv.shmmin=1 sysctl -w kern.sysv.shmmni=320 sysctl -w kern.sysv.shmseg=80 sysctl -w kern.sysv.shmall=10240 DUH! How could I possibly forget about sysctl. That doesn't seem

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: [Gimp-user] The GIMP Foundation

2004-03-08 Thread Daniel Rogers
On Mar 8, 2004, at 8:25 AM, Kelly Martin wrote: Dave Neary wrote: Daniel Rogers wrote: Avoid self-dealing. What's this? Self-dealing is whenever the people who control the organization command the organization to do business with themselves in their personal capacity. Self-dealing tears

[Gimp-developer] The GIMP Foundation

2004-03-08 Thread Daniel Rogers
Hello again, It has been awhile since I have done a GIMP Foundation update. There is quite a bit that must be decided on at this point. Also, people need to decide how invovled they would like to be. Summary: My Goals, Benefits of incorporation responsibilites of those invovled things to be

[Gimp-developer] more gimp foundation stuff

2004-03-08 Thread Daniel Rogers
Here is few notes to address a few more concerns I have encountered, I'll pose them retorically. 1. I heard that some people have been asked to be on the board, why weren't the developers consulted? I'm a developer, why wasn't I asked? Who are these board members? In California every corporation

Re: [Gimp-developer] The GIMP Foundation

2004-03-09 Thread Daniel Rogers
Nathan Carl Summers wrote: Is this required to be in person, or is conference call/irc/email/etc sufficient? Furthermore, is it possible for board members to be reimbursed for expenses? I can see this being a major obstacle for non-us residents otherwise. Kelly already answered the first part,

Re: [Gimp-developer] image processing

2004-03-18 Thread Daniel Rogers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gianluca, This question has really nothing to do with Gimp unless you want to use already existing gimp functionality. You may e.g. read an image into memory though the gdk_pixbuf functions, and then access the pixel data through gdk_pixbuf_get_buf(). Working with

[Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer

2004-03-18 Thread Daniel Rogers
So, More details have come forward about the Mark Shuttleworth offer. Mark Shuttleworth made up his mind and decided to fund myself and Calvin to work on GEGL and GIMP/GEGL integration. Until today, I didn't have any specific details on the offer. I am pretty sure the offer essentially the

Re: [Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer

2004-03-19 Thread Daniel Rogers
Raphaël Quinet wrote: On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 16:38:55 -0800, Daniel Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More details have come forward about the Mark Shuttleworth offer. Mark Shuttleworth made up his mind and decided to fund myself and Calvin to work on GEGL and GIMP/GEGL integration. Until today, I

Re: [Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer

2004-03-19 Thread Daniel Rogers
Kelly Martin wrote: Dave Neary wrote: We could even consider having a quickish stable release after 2.2 with just GeglImage replacing GimpLayer, which would give us a chance to work out any wrinkles in that milestone before we start really relying on it... Unless the code has changed a lot

Re: [Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer

2004-03-19 Thread Daniel Rogers
Michael Natterer wrote: Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We could even consider having a quickish stable release after 2.2 with just GeglImage replacing GimpLayer, which would give us a chance to work out any wrinkles in that milestone before we start really relying on it... GeglImage

Re: [Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer

2004-03-19 Thread Daniel Rogers
Michael Natterer wrote: Actually no. GimpDrawable is a GimpItem is a GimpObject. It should *have* a GeglImage, not be one. Damn it. yes. I meant delagation, not inheritance. -- Dan ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Gimp-developer] again: burn function - how does it work?

2004-03-19 Thread Daniel Rogers
Thomas Lübking wrote: Hi. After checking the i18n files i now know that nachbelichten is supposed to be burn. However, the appropriate function in app/coposite-generic.c does not seem to behave as expected. afaik the burn function should do nothing if the the upper (the burning) color is white.

[Gimp-developer] more GIMP foundation stuff

2004-04-23 Thread Daniel Rogers
Hi again, I have almost completed all the paperwork to get The GIMP Foundation up and running. The last slightly compliciated bit left is to get the bylaws finished. I have a draft version of the bylaws that need a few gaps filled in. I've put it here: http://www.phasevelocity.org/bylaws.doc

Re: [Gimp-developer] The issue of JPEG Patents?

2004-04-23 Thread Daniel Rogers
Joao S. O. Bueno wrote: On Friday 23 April 2004 18:39, Alan Horkan wrote: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/04/23/forgent_jpeg_suit/ Has the issue of Jpeg Patents been brought up yet? (a quick but not thorough search suggests not) hmmm...What about waiting until october, and THEM start the

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMPCon

2004-04-29 Thread Daniel Rogers
Dave Neary wrote: Hi all, In a mail I just sent off, I said we should have some information about what we plan to do at GIMPCon... What do we plan to do at GIMPCon? I'd like to say that, for the record I won't be able to attend GimpCon. I simply don't have the time or money at the moment (and

Re: [Gimp-developer] more GIMP foundation stuff

2004-04-29 Thread Daniel Rogers
Daniel Rogers wrote: So, I noticed the resounding silence surrounding this thread. Is anyone still interested in a foundation? I went into this foundation thing thinking I had support from the community. I cannot do this all by myself. The Foundation is about getting involved. If noone

[Gimp-developer] Re: Re: more GIMP foundation stuff

2004-04-29 Thread Daniel Rogers
Michael Schumacher wrote: Daniel Rogers wrote: Daniel Rogers wrote: So, I noticed the resounding silence surrounding this thread. Is anyone still interested in a foundation? I went into this foundation thing thinking I had support from the community. I cannot do this all by myself

[Gimp-developer] bylaws discussion part 1: objectives

2004-04-29 Thread Daniel Rogers
Ok, So I think the best way to approach this is to break the bylaws in to the relevent bits and encourage discussion on a single small topic at a time. So, the first part that needs to be discussed are the objectives. These are, in their way, rather important. The objectives are what define

Re: [Gimp-developer] more GIMP foundation stuff

2004-04-30 Thread Daniel Rogers
Michael Schumacher wrote: Carol Spears wrote: On Sat, Apr 24, 2004 at 09:44:49AM +0200, Marc A. Lehmann wrote: On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 08:00:17PM -0700, Daniel Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've put it here: http://www.phasevelocity.org/bylaws.doc These bylaws Woaw, the bylaws

Re: [Gimp-developer] Joining the GNOME Foundation

2004-05-03 Thread Daniel Rogers
Sven Neumann wrote: It's not that we wouldn't put a lot of effort into making GIMP work well on a GNOME desktop. Adhering to FreeDesktop standards is one of our goals and we are even working towards full GNOME HIG compliance. The only things we really want to avoid is to be forced to do any of

Re: [Gimp-developer] Joining the GNOME Foundation

2004-05-04 Thread Daniel Rogers
Kelly Martin wrote: I'd be very surprised if the GNOME Foundation passed along *all* funds untouched donated with a simple earmark for the GIMP to the GIMP people; I would fully expect them to take an administrative fee of between 5% and 50% (maybe even more). You might want to have an