Re: [Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer

2004-04-22 Thread Branko Collin
On 18 Mar 2004, at 16:38, Daniel Rogers wrote: So, More details have come forward about the Mark Shuttleworth offer. Mark Shuttleworth made up his mind and decided to fund myself and Calvin to work on GEGL and GIMP/GEGL integration. Until today, I didn't have any specific details on the

Re: PDB named and default parameters (was Re: [Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer)

2004-03-26 Thread Manish Singh
On Sat, Mar 27, 2004 at 03:27:04AM +0100, Marc Lehmann wrote: On Thu, Mar 25, 2004 at 07:48:59PM -0800, Manish Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what would be a good way for perl to support both named and positional stuff? It simply shouldn't. It should either do positional where it is

Re: PDB named and default parameters (was Re: [Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer)

2004-03-25 Thread Manish Singh
On Tue, Mar 23, 2004 at 01:22:23PM +0100, Marc Lehmann wrote: On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 02:19:09PM -0800, Manish Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While on that subject, I'm wondering what a good way of representing named parameters in scheme and perl would be. Any thoughts? This is natural,

Re: PDB named and default parameters (was Re: [Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer)

2004-03-21 Thread David Neary
Hi, Manish Singh wrote: A PDB revamp is planned. How far along is the planning? I have heard of Rock's libpdb, which I believe he wants to finish for 2.2, but I hadn't heard any concrete plans for the often-mentioned forthcoming PDB re-write. What requirements would the new PDB have? Cheers,

Re: PDB named and default parameters (was Re: [Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer)

2004-03-21 Thread Manish Singh
On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 12:39:23AM -0600, Kevin Myers wrote: It is utterly ridiculous that simply because I voiced concerns about and would like for the ability to have gimp scripts execute properly from the command line under Windows that you accuse me of making the GIMP suck. The suggestions

Re: PDB named and default parameters (was Re: [Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer)

2004-03-21 Thread Manish Singh
On Sun, Mar 21, 2004 at 09:44:25PM +0100, David Neary wrote: Hi, Manish Singh wrote: A PDB revamp is planned. How far along is the planning? I have heard of Rock's libpdb, which I believe he wants to finish for 2.2, but I hadn't heard any concrete plans for the often-mentioned

Re: PDB named and default parameters (was Re: [Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer)

2004-03-21 Thread Kevin Myers
- Original Message - From: Manish Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 2:48 PM snip FWIW, the suggestion was ill-researched. (foo image=bar) is so very very un-Scheme like, which is surprising to hear from someone who has apparently written scripts from scratch. It

Re: PDB named and default parameters (was Re: [Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer)

2004-03-21 Thread Carol Spears
On Sun, Mar 21, 2004 at 03:32:08PM -0600, Kevin Myers wrote: - Original Message - From: Manish Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 2:48 PM Finally, wouldn't you also agree that it is better to be polite when rejecting someone else's well intentioned suggestions,

Re: PDB named and default parameters (was Re: [Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer)

2004-03-21 Thread Manish Singh
On Sun, Mar 21, 2004 at 03:32:08PM -0600, Kevin Myers wrote: - Original Message - From: Manish Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 2:48 PM snip FWIW, the suggestion was ill-researched. (foo image=bar) is so very very un-Scheme like, which is surprising to hear

Re: PDB named and default parameters (was Re: [Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer)

2004-03-21 Thread Kevin Myers
If it's important to you, you'll do the 10 mins of research and critical thinking needed. Apparantly you could research this a whole lot faster than I can, which isn't surprising since you work with gimp development almost every day. It would probably take me more than that amount of time

Re: PDB named and default parameters (was Re: [Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer)

2004-03-21 Thread Manish Singh
On Sun, Mar 21, 2004 at 05:57:04PM -0600, Kevin Myers wrote: If it's important to you, you'll do the 10 mins of research and critical thinking needed. Apparantly you could research this a whole lot faster than I can, which isn't surprising since you work with gimp development almost

Re: PDB named and default parameters (was Re: [Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer)

2004-03-20 Thread Carol Spears
- From: Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kevin Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED]; GIMPDev [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 11:17 PM Subject: Re: PDB named and default parameters (was Re: [Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer) On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 09:26:23PM -0600, Kevin Myers

Re: [Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer

2004-03-19 Thread dov
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 08:56:36AM +0100, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: [stuff deleted] The only thing that struck me as missing was the work involved with porting the plug-ins to the new API, but Raphaël already pointed that out in another reply to this thread. I very much hope that at least

Re: [Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer

2004-03-19 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Dan, Daniel Rogers wrote: More details have come forward about the Mark Shuttleworth offer. Mark Shuttleworth made up his mind and decided to fund myself and Calvin to work on GEGL and GIMP/GEGL integration. Congratulations! :) Also, I want to prepare a press release about this, and would

Re: [Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer

2004-03-19 Thread Michael Natterer
Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We could even consider having a quickish stable release after 2.2 with just GeglImage replacing GimpLayer, which would give us a chance to work out any wrinkles in that milestone before we start really relying on it... GeglImage can't replace GimpLayer,

Re: [Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer

2004-03-19 Thread Daniel Rogers
Raphaël Quinet wrote: On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 16:38:55 -0800, Daniel Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More details have come forward about the Mark Shuttleworth offer. Mark Shuttleworth made up his mind and decided to fund myself and Calvin to work on GEGL and GIMP/GEGL integration. Until today, I

Re: [Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer

2004-03-19 Thread Daniel Rogers
Kelly Martin wrote: Dave Neary wrote: We could even consider having a quickish stable release after 2.2 with just GeglImage replacing GimpLayer, which would give us a chance to work out any wrinkles in that milestone before we start really relying on it... Unless the code has changed a lot

Re: [Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer

2004-03-19 Thread Daniel Rogers
Michael Natterer wrote: Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We could even consider having a quickish stable release after 2.2 with just GeglImage replacing GimpLayer, which would give us a chance to work out any wrinkles in that milestone before we start really relying on it... GeglImage

Re: [Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer

2004-03-19 Thread Michael Natterer
Daniel Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Daniel Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 06:54:34 -0800 Kelly Martin wrote: Dave Neary wrote: We could even consider having a quickish stable

Re: [Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer

2004-03-19 Thread Daniel Rogers
Michael Natterer wrote: Actually no. GimpDrawable is a GimpItem is a GimpObject. It should *have* a GeglImage, not be one. Damn it. yes. I meant delagation, not inheritance. -- Dan ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer

2004-03-19 Thread Kelly Martin
Michael Natterer wrote: Actually no. GimpDrawable is a GimpItem is a GimpObject. It should *have* a GeglImage, not be one. Yes, this is probably correct. Tempbufs should probably also be replaced by GeglImages, and the entire paint core replaced by GeglOp-related operations. As I see it,

PDB named and default parameters (was Re: [Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer)

2004-03-19 Thread Manish Singh
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 10:50:23AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 08:56:36AM +0100, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: [stuff deleted] The only thing that struck me as missing was the work involved with porting the plug-ins to the new API, but Rapha?l already pointed

Re: PDB named and default parameters (was Re: [Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer)

2004-03-19 Thread Simon Budig
Manish Singh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 10:50:23AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 08:56:36AM +0100, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: [stuff deleted] The only thing that struck me as missing was the work involved with porting the plug-ins

Re: PDB named and default parameters (was Re: [Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer)

2004-03-19 Thread Manish Singh
On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 12:58:25AM +0100, Simon Budig wrote: Manish Singh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 10:50:23AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 08:56:36AM +0100, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: [stuff deleted] The only thing that struck

Re: PDB named and default parameters (was Re: [Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer)

2004-03-19 Thread Simon Budig
Manish Singh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 12:58:25AM +0100, Simon Budig wrote: For scheme we could do something like this: (script-fu-foo-bar '(imageimage) '(drawable drawable) '(radius 5.5)

Re: PDB named and default parameters (was Re: [Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer)

2004-03-19 Thread Manish Singh
On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 01:34:02AM +0100, Simon Budig wrote: Manish Singh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 12:58:25AM +0100, Simon Budig wrote: For scheme we could do something like this: (script-fu-foo-bar '(imageimage) '(drawable

Re: PDB named and default parameters (was Re: [Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer)

2004-03-19 Thread Kelly Martin
Simon Budig wrote: Ok, thinking some more about it: What about using symbols as parameter identifiers? (script-fu-foo-bar 'imageimage 'drawable drawable 'radius 5.5 'size 300) passing symbols to the PDB doesn't make sense,

Re: PDB named and default parameters (was Re: [Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer)

2004-03-19 Thread Kevin Myers
parameters (was Re: [Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer) Simon Budig wrote: Ok, thinking some more about it: What about using symbols as parameter identifiers? (script-fu-foo-bar 'imageimage 'drawable drawable 'radius 5.5

Re: PDB named and default parameters (was Re: [Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer)

2004-03-19 Thread Kelly Martin
Kevin Myers wrote: (script-fu-foo-bar image=myimage size=300) Defining syntax macros for such a syntax in Scheme is less than straightforward, and is also very un-Scheme-like. Kelly ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: PDB named and default parameters (was Re: [Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer)

2004-03-19 Thread Kevin Myers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 8:11 PM Subject: Re: PDB named and default parameters (was Re: [Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer) Kevin Myers wrote: (script-fu-foo-bar image=myimage size=300) Defining syntax macros for such a syntax in Scheme

Re: PDB named and default parameters (was Re: [Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer)

2004-03-19 Thread Kelly Martin
Kevin Myers wrote: You seem to know what you're talking about Kelly, so I'll have to accept your word that my suggestion is un-Scheme-like. However, please verify one thing regarding your suggestion: How do you handle parameter values with imbedded blanks or other special characters? (True)

Re: PDB named and default parameters (was Re: [Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer)

2004-03-19 Thread Kevin Myers
- Original Message - From: Kelly Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kevin Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 9:07 PM Subject: Re: PDB named and default parameters (was Re: [Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer) Kevin Myers wrote: You seem to know what

Re: PDB named and default parameters (was Re: [Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer)

2004-03-19 Thread Kelly Martin
Kevin Myers wrote: Hi Kelly, I understand your basic points, but... Admittedly, the Windows command prompt (not simply Explorer) is less capable than most *nix command shells. However, there are also a very large number of Windows based GIMP users, and one of the requirements of GIMP 2.x is

Re: PDB named and default parameters (was Re: [Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer)

2004-03-19 Thread Simon Budig
Kelly Martin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Kevin Myers wrote: Admittedly, the Windows command prompt (not simply Explorer) is less capable than most *nix command shells. However, there are also a very large number of Windows based GIMP users, and one of the requirements of GIMP 2.x is that

Re: PDB named and default parameters (was Re: [Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer)

2004-03-19 Thread Kevin Myers
- Original Message - From: Kelly Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kevin Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 9:48 PM Subject: Re: PDB named and default parameters (was Re: [Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer) Kevin Myers wrote: Hi Kelly, I

Re: PDB named and default parameters (was Re: [Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer)

2004-03-19 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Simon Budig writes: If a windows user really needs scripting, I'd recommend to install e.g. a bash. True, but doesn't necessarily help. The Win32 process invokation API (CreateProcess()) doesn't use a argument vector like Unix does. It uses a command line. The argv that a C or C+++ main()

Re: PDB named and default parameters (was Re: [Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer)

2004-03-19 Thread Kevin Myers
and default parameters (was Re: [Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer) On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 09:26:23PM -0600, Kevin Myers wrote: Admittedly, the Windows command prompt (not simply Explorer) is less capable than most *nix command shells. However, there are also a very large number

[Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer

2004-03-18 Thread Daniel Rogers
So, More details have come forward about the Mark Shuttleworth offer. Mark Shuttleworth made up his mind and decided to fund myself and Calvin to work on GEGL and GIMP/GEGL integration. Until today, I didn't have any specific details on the offer. I am pretty sure the offer essentially the

Re: [Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer

2004-03-18 Thread Raphaël Quinet
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 16:38:55 -0800, Daniel Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More details have come forward about the Mark Shuttleworth offer. Mark Shuttleworth made up his mind and decided to fund myself and Calvin to work on GEGL and GIMP/GEGL integration. Until today, I didn't have any

Re: [Gimp-developer] The Mark Shuttleworth offer

2004-03-18 Thread Henrik Brix Andersen
Hi, On Fri, 2004-03-19 at 01:38, Daniel Rogers wrote: More details have come forward about the Mark Shuttleworth offer. Mark Shuttleworth made up his mind and decided to fund myself and Calvin to work on GEGL and GIMP/GEGL integration. Until today, I didn't have any specific details on