Re: [Gimp-user] Canvas Size on Crop

2021-10-30 Thread Ofnuts via gimp-user-list
Things have gotten a bit more complex in 2.10 because IIRC some of the tool options are really under the control of the "Input device" tab of the preference, where you also find "Save now", "Reset to defaults" buttons and a "Save on exit" checkbox. This would be coherent with tools being

Re: [Gimp-user] Canvas Size on Crop

2021-10-30 Thread Akkana Peck
Liam R E Quin writes: > On Wed, 2021-10-20 at 21:58 -0400, Ruben Safir wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 01:36:15AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Tuesday 19 October 2021 21:23:50 Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list > > > wrote: > > > > > It is just broken.  Everytime I use it it defaults to

Re: [Gimp-user] Canvas Size on Crop

2021-10-27 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list
On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 11:29 AM Ross Martinek wrote: > > Thank you, Cliff. > > Some folks just don’t understand that fiddling with a program is the way to > learn it. Oh, sure, the for profit software can afford to hand the user a > “how to” manual of greater or lesser worth. We will

Re: [Gimp-user] Canvas Size on Crop

2021-10-27 Thread Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list
Gene, I've never had to do that. I'll have a fiddle, but, can I ask, what do you see in the "Tool Options" when you open GIMP without an image? I attach a screenshot of my GIMP window when I open it. Cliff On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 6:36 PM Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 19 October 2021

Re: [Gimp-user] Canvas Size on Crop

2021-10-27 Thread Ross Martinek
Thank you, Cliff. Some folks just don’t understand that fiddling with a program is the way to learn it. Oh, sure, the for profit software can afford to hand the user a “how to” manual of greater or lesser worth. Not so with Gimp. This is a place to ask questions and get answers, not a place

Re: [Gimp-user] Canvas Size on Crop

2021-10-22 Thread Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list
If it is a preference option, then the solution would be to turn the save option on, make the change, exit the program, restart the program and turn the option off. BTW if you were referring to my post, it wasn't my intent to say "it works!" My intent was to say "It works *for me*." If it

Re: [Gimp-user] Canvas Size on Crop

2021-10-22 Thread Simon Budig
Hi all. Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list (gimp-user-list@gnome.org) wrote: > No. > 1) I open GIMP > 2) The font size as I see it is 80pts. > 3) I change it to 100. > 4) I exit. > 5) I reopen GIMP. > 6) The font size is 100. > > ?? If tool options get saved on exit is actually a preference

Re: [Gimp-user] Canvas Size on Crop

2021-10-22 Thread Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list
No. 1) I open GIMP 2) The font size as I see it is 80pts. 3) I change it to 100. 4) I exit. 5) I reopen GIMP. 6) The font size is 100. ?? Cliff On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 2:58 PM Ruben Safir wrote: > On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 01:36:15AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 19 October 2021

Re: [Gimp-user] Canvas Size on Crop

2021-10-21 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Thu, 2021-10-21 at 17:15 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 21 October 2021 16:21:44 Liam R E Quin wrote: > I was able to enable saveing tools on exit, > which was not checked. OK > But was unable to open a gegl selection dialog.  Sorry, i do not know what that is. Do you mean the

Re: [Gimp-user] Canvas Size on Crop

2021-10-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 21 October 2021 16:21:44 Liam R E Quin wrote: > On Wed, 2021-10-20 at 21:58 -0400, Ruben Safir wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 01:36:15AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Tuesday 19 October 2021 21:23:50 Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list > > > wrote: > > > > It is just broken. 

Re: [Gimp-user] Canvas Size on Crop

2021-10-21 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Wed, 2021-10-20 at 21:58 -0400, Ruben Safir wrote: > On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 01:36:15AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 19 October 2021 21:23:50 Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list > > wrote: > > > It is just broken.  Everytime I use it it defaults to 62pts and it > refuses to change. I

Re: [Gimp-user] Canvas Size on Crop

2021-10-20 Thread Ruben Safir
On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 01:36:15AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 19 October 2021 21:23:50 Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list wrote: > > > The 'text problem' has been discussed many times, and the root cause > > is people not understanding how the tools works. I did (for my own > >

Re: [Gimp-user] Canvas Size on Crop

2021-10-19 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 19 October 2021 21:23:50 Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list wrote: > The 'text problem' has been discussed many times, and the root cause > is people not understanding how the tools works. I did (for my own > satisfaction) quite a lot of fiddling with the tool + its options, and > I've

Re: [Gimp-user] Canvas Size on Crop

2021-10-19 Thread Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list
The 'text problem' has been discussed many times, and the root cause is people not understanding how the tools works. I did (for my own satisfaction) quite a lot of fiddling with the tool + its options, and I've been able to reproduce all the issues that I've seen reported. As far as I can recall

Re: [Gimp-user] Canvas Size on Crop

2021-10-19 Thread Ofnuts via gimp-user-list
On 19/10/2021 07:36, Ruben Safir wrote: It has been described on the mailing list about ten times, and it keeps falling on deaf ear. Try using it and see for yourself how it keeps defaulting to size 64 fonts and you can't force it to change accept by luck and seridipity. Uh? To change the

Re: [Gimp-user] Canvas Size on Crop

2021-10-18 Thread Ruben Safir
On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 08:38:06PM +0300, Cristian Secară wrote: > În data de Sun, 17 Oct 2021 11:24:10 +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine via > gimp-user-list a scris: > > > > Why is it that now when I crop the image that the canvas sticks out. > > > > [...] > > > > Enabling the "Delete cropped

Re: [Gimp-user] Canvas Size on Crop

2021-10-18 Thread Ruben Safir
Also, it would be great if you fixed the file previewer. Why does it work in every other piece of software, but not the gimp? I get tired of opening directories with viewnoir and then forking to the gimp. And please return Crop to normal so it is useful and people don't laugh at us for using

Re: [Gimp-user] Canvas Size on Crop

2021-10-18 Thread Ruben Safir
On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 08:47:41PM +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list wrote: > On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 8:38 PM Cristian Secară wrote: > > > > Enabling the "Delete cropped pixels" checkbox in Crop tool's options > > > restores the old destructive behavior > > > > After crop, usually I

Re: [Gimp-user] Canvas Size on Crop

2021-10-18 Thread Ruben Safir
> > > BTW - they need to fix the text tool that they BROKE > > Please elaborate on that. > It has been described on the mailing list about ten times, and it keeps falling on deaf ear. Try using it and see for yourself how it keeps defaulting to size 64 fonts and you can't force it to change

Re: [Gimp-user] Canvas Size on Crop

2021-10-18 Thread Ruben Safir
On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 05:18:59PM -1000, scott smart via gimp-user-list wrote: > > On 10/18/2021 07:38, Cristian Secară wrote: > >În data de Sun, 17 Oct 2021 11:24:10 +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine via > >gimp-user-list a scris: > > > >>>Why is it that now when I crop the image that the canvas

Re: [Gimp-user] Canvas Size on Crop

2021-10-18 Thread Ruben Safir
On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 07:31:21PM +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list wrote: > On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 7:18 PM Ruben Safir wrote: > > > > When you do cropping _and_ you apply a bunch of changes on top of it, > > > you have to go all the way back to redo cropping if you want it done >

Re: [Gimp-user] Canvas Size on Crop

2021-10-18 Thread scott smart via gimp-user-list
On 10/18/2021 07:38, Cristian Secară wrote: În data de Sun, 17 Oct 2021 11:24:10 +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list a scris: Why is it that now when I crop the image that the canvas sticks out. [...] Enabling the "Delete cropped pixels" checkbox in Crop tool's options restores

Re: [Gimp-user] Canvas Size on Crop

2021-10-18 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list
On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 8:38 PM Cristian Secară wrote: > > Enabling the "Delete cropped pixels" checkbox in Crop tool's options > > restores the old destructive behavior > > After crop, usually I go to Layer > Layer to Image Size. > > Until this 'discussion' I never noticed the "Delete cropped

Re: [Gimp-user] Canvas Size on Crop

2021-10-18 Thread Cristian Secară
În data de Sun, 17 Oct 2021 11:24:10 +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list a scris: > > Why is it that now when I crop the image that the canvas sticks out. > > [...] > > Enabling the "Delete cropped pixels" checkbox in Crop tool's options > restores the old destructive behavior

Re: [Gimp-user] Canvas Size on Crop

2021-10-18 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list
On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 7:18 PM Ruben Safir wrote: > > When you do cropping _and_ you apply a bunch of changes on top of it, > > you have to go all the way back to redo cropping if you want it done > > differently. > > No problem with that. Using cropping any other way is stupid.

Re: [Gimp-user] Canvas Size on Crop

2021-10-18 Thread Ruben Safir
BTW - they need to fix the text tool that they BROKE That is really an urgent need. and fix the crop and fix the save so it saves. Then it would be perfect and you can just stop coding it and stop breaking it. ___ gimp-user-list mailing list

Re: [Gimp-user] Canvas Size on Crop

2021-10-18 Thread Ruben Safir
On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 12:06:04PM +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list wrote: > On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 11:06 AM Ruben Safir wrote: > > > Neither does anyone else. You beavers are destroying the GIMP > > I'm fairly certain none of GIMP contributors are large rodents > although we

Re: [Gimp-user] Canvas Size on Crop

2021-10-18 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list
On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 11:06 AM Ruben Safir wrote: > Neither does anyone else. You beavers are destroying the GIMP I'm fairly certain none of GIMP contributors are large rodents although we generally do like swimming and building habitat. > You DO understand that CTL Z returns your crop?

Re: [Gimp-user] Canvas Size on Crop

2021-10-18 Thread Ruben Safir
BTW - you broke the bump map filters as well... the things you guyys break just goes on and on Text Floatings Selections also is broken All these things used to work. On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 04:02:10AM -0400, Ruben Safir wrote: > On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 10:41:19PM -0400, Rick Strong wrote: >

Re: [Gimp-user] Canvas Size on Crop

2021-10-18 Thread Ruben Safir
On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 10:41:19PM -0400, Rick Strong wrote: > I guess I'm a "spaz" (quite a pejorative term, when you think about it) > because I like non-destructive actions for when I come back to a file months > later. I can undo the crop or the crap I have inflicted upon it. After 30 > years

Re: [Gimp-user] Canvas Size on Crop

2021-10-18 Thread Ruben Safir
On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 04:55:22AM +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list wrote: > On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 3:38 AM Ruben Safir wrote: > > > Better - DITCH IT > > Dear Ruben, > > >From the three emails you sent, my understanding is that: > > 1. You have no use for non-destructive

Re: [Gimp-user] Canvas Size on Crop

2021-10-17 Thread Rick Strong
I guess I'm a "spaz" (quite a pejorative term, when you think about it) because I like non-destructive actions for when I come back to a file months later. I can undo the crop or the crap I have inflicted upon it. After 30 years using this stuff I know about CTRL-Z but I never use histories.

Re: [Gimp-user] Canvas Size on Crop

2021-10-17 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list
On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 3:38 AM Ruben Safir wrote: > Better - DITCH IT Dear Ruben, >From the three emails you sent, my understanding is that: 1. You have no use for non-destructive cropping. 2. You assume that everyone else in the user community shares your opinion on this. I hope I got it

Re: [Gimp-user] Canvas Size on Crop

2021-10-17 Thread Ruben Safir
> > We did not break anything :) We added a non-destructive mode and > enabled it by default. > Honestly, when you say things like this, not only are you wrong, but it is also very insulting. > > Can you tell me the setting that returns the gimp to sanity? > > Enabling the "Delete cropped

Re: [Gimp-user] Canvas Size on Crop

2021-10-17 Thread Ruben Safir
> > > You need to ditch this and ditch the export/save thingie > This is worth repeaing because it seems that the developers are not listening to the end users. I've used the GIMP since its inception and rarely make any complaints. But this is accross the board stupid. You are cluttering

Re: [Gimp-user] Canvas Size on Crop

2021-10-17 Thread Ruben Safir
On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 11:24:10AM +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list wrote: > On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 5:21 AM Ruben Safir wrote: > > > > Hello > > > > I thought I asked this before, but I can't find any reference to the > > previous email on any search engines... so here we go.. > >

Re: [Gimp-user] Canvas Size on Crop

2021-10-17 Thread Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list
I find tutorials of limited use. They usually use out of date versions, and some are just plain wrong. Use them as rough guides only. Cliff On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 4:50 AM Ofnuts via gimp-user-list < gimp-user-list@gnome.org> wrote: > On 17/10/2021 10:24, Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list

Re: [Gimp-user] Canvas Size on Crop

2021-10-17 Thread Ofnuts via gimp-user-list
On 17/10/2021 10:24, Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list wrote: On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 5:21 AM Ruben Safir wrote: Hello I thought I asked this before, but I can't find any reference to the previous email on any search engines... so here we go.. Why is it that now when I crop the image

Re: [Gimp-user] Canvas Size on Crop

2021-10-17 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine via gimp-user-list
On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 5:21 AM Ruben Safir wrote: > > Hello > > I thought I asked this before, but I can't find any reference to the > previous email on any search engines... so here we go.. > > Why is it that now when I crop the image that the canvas sticks out. > Why did you break this? We did

[Gimp-user] Canvas Size on Crop

2021-10-16 Thread Ruben Safir
Hello I thought I asked this before, but I can't find any reference to the previous email on any search engines... so here we go.. Why is it that now when I crop the image that the canvas sticks out. Why did you break this? Can you tell me the setting that returns the gimp to sanity? Ruben --