Re: Abusing CC:

2002-07-12 Thread pll
In a message dated: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:17:23 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, at 4:32pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone explain exactly what M-F-T is *supposed* to do. *sigh* Did this forum become write-only when I wasn't looking? :) Hey, if we actually *READ*

Re: Abusing CC:

2002-07-12 Thread bscott
On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, at 11:26am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Btw, ahm, with all this discussion about headers like M-F-T, why aren't we using the already standard List-* headers? I would solve a lot of the complaints here! Because the configuration of the current mailing list is limited by

Re: Abusing CC:

2002-07-12 Thread pll
In a message dated: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:48:08 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, at 11:26am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Btw, ahm, with all this discussion about headers like M-F-T, why aren't we using the already standard List-* headers? I would solve a lot of the complaints

Re: Abusing CC:

2002-07-12 Thread Tom Buskey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, at 11:26am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Btw, ahm, with all this discussion about headers like M-F-T, why aren't we using the already standard List-* headers? I would solve a lot of the complaints here! Because the configuration of the current

Re: Abusing CC:

2002-07-12 Thread bscott
On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, at 12:10pm, Tom Buskey wrote: Ummm, yahoo does lists for free provides a web archive, etc. Granted, there'd be less control ads inserted. Well, maybe there'd be more control. I, personally, would consider that a step in the wrong direction. :) When I say we are

Re: Abusing CC:

2002-07-12 Thread pll
In a message dated: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 12:31:39 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, at 12:10pm, Tom Buskey wrote: Ummm, yahoo does lists for free provides a web archive, etc. Granted, there'd be less control ads inserted. Well, maybe there'd be more control. I, personally,

Opinions on Reply-to (WAS: Abusing CC:)

2002-07-11 Thread Dana S. Tellier
On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, Derek D. Martin wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At some point hitherto, [EMAIL PROTECTED] hath spake thusly: mwl's Reply-To suggestion is a good one. No, it isn't. The problem with setting reply-to is that it is done so infrequently that a

Re: Opinions on Reply-to (WAS: Abusing CC:)

2002-07-11 Thread Derek D. Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At some point hitherto, Dana S. Tellier hath spake thusly: I have a better idea... how about (this has definitely been mentioned before) people just take a moment to note who they're replying to? Making a mistake and replying to all when you

Re: Abusing CC:

2002-07-11 Thread Bob Bell
On Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 12:40:17AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any message sent to the list address is not a private reply. I suspect you really mean that people who blindly hit Reply will send to the wrong address. You're right, they will. But that's not the

Re: Abusing CC:

2002-07-11 Thread bscott
On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, at 1:56pm, Bob Bell wrote: IMHO, Mail-Followup-To is a cleaner solution. Oh, I agree that a header specifically for this reason is a much better solution. However, until such time as Mail-Followup-To becomes an effective solution, I plan on including a Reply-To header as

Re: Abusing CC:

2002-07-11 Thread pll
In a message dated: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:57:00 EDT mike ledoux said: M-F-T would be really nice, except that Mutt is the only MUA that uses it. Last I checked, the RFC it was proposed in had expired. Can someone explain exactly what M-F-T is *supposed* to do. I'm not as familiar with that

Re: Abusing CC:

2002-07-11 Thread Jerry Feldman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I use exmh at home, and I have set up templates for the lists I use. Thus when replying to a listserv, the template preserves the Subject but not the addresses so I get a nice clean header. - -- Jerry

Re: Abusing CC:

2002-07-11 Thread Bob Bell
On Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 04:54:27PM -0400, Jerry Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use exmh at home, and I have set up templates for the lists I use. Thus when replying to a listserv, the template preserves the Subject but not the addresses so I get a nice clean header. Which, incidently,

Re: Abusing CC:

2002-07-11 Thread pll
In a message dated: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:54:27 EDT Jerry Feldman said: I use exmh at home, and I have set up templates for the lists I use. Thus when replying to a listserv, the template preserves the Subject but not the addresses so I get a nice clean header. So are you doing something like:

Re: Abusing CC:

2002-07-11 Thread Thomas M. Albright
You know, with all the stuff you guys are talking about, this remains the only list I'm on where I have to reply-to-all if I want my reply to go to the list. Every other list sets the replies to go to the list unless you specify otherwise. Why is that? Why do I need to reconfigure my client

Re: Abusing CC:

2002-07-11 Thread Erik Price
On Thursday, July 11, 2002, at 09:10 PM, Thomas M. Albright wrote: You know, with all the stuff you guys are talking about, this remains the only list I'm on where I have to reply-to-all if I want my reply to go to the list. Every other list sets the replies to go to the list unless you

Re: Abusing CC:

2002-07-11 Thread Kenneth E. Lussier
Hmmm The header-munging Vs. Non-header-munging debate. Is it Thursday already? ;-) On Thu, 2002-07-11 at 21:10, Thomas M. Albright wrote: You know, with all the stuff you guys are talking about, this remains the only list I'm on where I have to reply-to-all if I want my reply to go

Re: Abusing CC:

2002-07-11 Thread Rich Payne
If you take a look through the archives, about a year ago (might be longer now I suppose) several people on the list felt that it should be changed. There was a 'vote' held and it was decided to change to the behavior we have now. The other side of it was that those of who didn't agree with

Re: Abusing CC:

2002-07-11 Thread bscott
On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, at 9:46pm, Rich Payne wrote: The other side of it was that those of who didn't agree with the change reserved the right to complain about it for the rest of eternity. I've said this before, but repetition is the very soul of the 'net.

Re: Abusing CC:

2002-07-11 Thread Thomas M. Albright
On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, Erik Price wrote: On Thursday, July 11, 2002, at 09:10 PM, Thomas M. Albright wrote: You know, with all the stuff you guys are talking about, this remains the only list I'm on where I have to reply-to-all if I want my reply to go to the list. Every other list sets

Re: Abusing CC:

2002-07-11 Thread bscott
On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, at 4:32pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone explain exactly what M-F-T is *supposed* to do. *sigh* Did this forum become write-only when I wasn't looking? :) http://cr.yp.to/proto/replyto.html In a public forum like this one, there are at least two types of

Abusing CC:

2002-07-10 Thread Michael O'Donnell
Folks, FYI: my GNHLUG dues are paid in full and my subscription to this GNHLUG list is therefore fully active and working perfectly. That means that when somebody posts a message to this list, I'll get a copy. That also means that if that person CC's me directly when they post that message, I

Re: Abusing CC:

2002-07-10 Thread Michael O'Donnell
The way your headers are coming through now, a well-behaved mail client will suggest replying directly to you. If you prefer to not get any 'private' replies, you could always set your reply-to to the list address... Ah! Good advice. Done.

Re: Abusing CC:

2002-07-10 Thread bscott
On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, at 2:26pm, Michael O'Donnell wrote: That also means that if that person CC's me directly when they post that message, I will get a second copy. Yah. I call that List Header Cancer, because the Cc header in a thread grows larger and larger as everyone who has ever

Re: Abusing CC:

2002-07-10 Thread Tom Rauschenbach
On Wednesday 10 July 2002 h:01, you wrote: The way your headers are coming through now, a well-behaved mail client will suggest replying directly to you. If you prefer to not get any 'private' replies, you could always set your reply-to to the list address... Ah! Good advice. Done.

Re: Abusing CC:

2002-07-10 Thread Bob Bell
On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 02:49:27PM -0400, mike ledoux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The way your headers are coming through now, a well-behaved mail client will suggest replying directly to you. If you prefer to not get any 'private' replies, you could always set your reply-to to the list

Re: Abusing CC:

2002-07-10 Thread bscott
On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, at 11:21pm, Bob Bell wrote: If you prefer to not get any 'private' replies, you could always set your reply-to to the list address... The problem here is that attempts at private replies will grab the list address [0]. Any message sent to the list address is not a