Re: behavior of find /

2002-03-26 Thread Kevin D. Clark
Mansur, Warren [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If we disable the last access time on the machine, will it mess up any applications? I always thought the atime was kind of useless but I don't know if some applications use it in an esoteric way. [please configure your email program to wrap lines

Re: behavior of find /

2002-03-26 Thread Benjamin Scott
On 26 Mar 2002, at 8:03am, Kevin D. Clark wrote: I would encourage people to not mess around with [the noatime mount] option. I would encourage people to do what meets their needs. In many situations, the atime field is either not useful, or actively bad for performance. In general,

Atime [Was: behavior of find /]

2002-03-26 Thread jbd
Sorry for wading in here, but I have about 5 minutes to spare, ... Some places use the atime field to archive (or remove) files that are unused. I've worked at several shops where they have large reports that just accumulate daily, and they manage their disk space using the atime feature - if

Re: Atime [Was: behavior of find /]

2002-03-26 Thread jkinz
At 10:40 AM 3/26/2002 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for wading in here, but I have about 5 minutes to spare, ... SNIP. Keep in mind that their definition of access means read - not modified. One more tidbit: - the man page for stat(2) states that the atime (access

Re: Atime [Was: behavior of find /]

2002-03-26 Thread Derek D. Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Your e-mail client is wrapping somewhere around 90 columns. On this list, it is generally regarded good netiquette to wrap at less than 80 colums, and most consider 72 idea. Please configure it to something less than 80. At some point hitherto,

RE: Atime [Was: behavior of find /]

2002-03-26 Thread Mansur, Warren
out how then it will help (me at least). Regards, Warren -Original Message- From: Derek D. Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 11:43 AM To: Greater NH Linux Users' Group Subject: Re: Atime [Was: behavior of find /] -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE

Re: Atime [Was: behavior of find /]

2002-03-26 Thread jkinz
At 11:42 AM 3/26/2002 -0500, Derek D. Martin wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Your e-mail client is wrapping somewhere around 90 columns. On this list, it is generally regarded good netiquette to wrap at less than 80 colums, and most consider 72 idea. Please configure it to

behavior of find /

2002-03-25 Thread Tom Rauschenbach
This has been puzzling me for weeks. If (as root) I type find / -print |grep somefilename sometimes it takes many minutes, sometimes it completes in seconds and sometimes I get a new shell prompt but I can hear the disk grinding away for many seconds after the command seems to have

Re: behavior of find /

2002-03-25 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Mon, 25 Mar 2002, at 7:52pm, Tom Rauschenbach wrote: This has been puzzling me for weeks. If (as root) I type find / -print |grep somefilename sometimes it takes many minutes, sometimes it completes in seconds ... Sometimes the system has to walk the directory tree on disk, sometimes

RE: behavior of find /

2002-03-25 Thread Mansur, Warren
Many filesystems maintain a notation of the last access time of a filesystem object. Under Unix/Linux, this is called the atime. Directories are generally considered filesystem objects. So, when you walk the directory tree, you touch the atime of every directory. All of those updated

RE: behavior of find /

2002-03-25 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Mon, 25 Mar 2002, at 8:46pm, Mansur, Warren wrote: If we disable the last access time on the machine, will it mess up any applications? Only those that use it. -- Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] | The opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not | | necessarily