Re: Netscape6

2000-04-09 Thread Niall Kavanagh
On Fri, 7 Apr 2000, Benjamin Scott wrote: From what I understand, the Mozilla team discovered a few things when they were building Navigator V5 (yes, five). The first was that the entire current Navigator codebase (which is a direct linear descendant of NCSA Mosaic) was completely

Re: Netscape6

2000-04-09 Thread Greg Kettmann
OK, and I'm really not trying to stir up trouble... I use Netscape for sole reason that it's not MS/IE. Call me paranoid but I've been in this field a long time to know that once MS has established a "solid base" (recently declared a monopoly) it will use that to competitive advantage. Now

Re: Netscape6

2000-04-09 Thread Ferenc Tamas Gyurcsan
others comments on this. Like I said I refuse to run IE and support a monopoly but I'd love to hear others comments. Also, I know that this crowd, by default uses a Well, I didn't refuse to use it on the first day at my new job. But then I tried ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com, and it couldn't

Re: Old Modules

2000-04-09 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Sun, 9 Apr 2000, Ferenc Tamas Gyurcsan wrote: I cannot find the string 'unresolved modules' in any place I'd expect it to be on my Red Hat Linux 6.1 system (bin directories, /boot/, /etc/, /etc/rc.d/, /etc/rc.d/init.d/, kernel source). Any idea where it is coming from? Isn't it coming

Re: Netscape6

2000-04-09 Thread tom r
On Sun, 09 Apr 2000, you wrote: OK, and I'm really not trying to stir up trouble... I use Netscape for sole reason that it's not MS/IE. Call me paranoid but I've been in this field a long time to know that once MS has established a "solid base" (recently declared a monopoly) it will use

Re: Netscape6

2000-04-09 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Sun, 9 Apr 2000, Niall Kavanagh wrote: And I think they absolutely did the right thing by re-writing and implementing standards. However, if a company puts out products that cause a certain infrastructure to be formed they have a responsibility to support that infrastructure. I will

Re: Old Modules

2000-04-09 Thread Ferenc Tamas Gyurcsan
grep -l 'unresolved modules' /sbin/depmod yields no results. There is a mention of 'unresolved symbol(s)', perhaps that is what the OP meant? Another one, after thinking more about it: this is a typical message after trying to insmod something. Eg. insmod sb gives me this message if -for

Re: Old Modules

2000-04-09 Thread Kenneth E. Lussier
Benjamin Scott wrote: grep -l 'unresolved modules' /sbin/depmod yields no results. There is a mention of 'unresolved symbol(s)', perhaps that is what the OP meant? My apologies... That is what I ment. It is `unresolved sybols in module insert module here`. Like I said in my OP,

Re: Old Modules

2000-04-09 Thread Derek Martin
Today, Ferenc Tamas Gyurcsan gleaned this insight: I cannot find the string 'unresolved modules' in any place I'd Isn't it coming from depmod -a? That's my guess. I believe you are correct Ferenc, and I believe the actual message is more like "unresolved symbols in module " rather than

Re: Netscape6

2000-04-09 Thread Derek Martin
Today, Benjamin Scott gleaned this insight: On Sun, 9 Apr 2000, Niall Kavanagh wrote: And I think they absolutely did the right thing by re-writing and implementing standards. However, if a company puts out products that cause a certain infrastructure to be formed they have a

Re: Old Modules

2000-04-09 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Sun, 9 Apr 2000, Kenneth E. Lussier wrote: My apologies... That is what I ment. It is `unresolved sybols in module insert module here`. Okay, yes, that is definitely coming from "depmod", which is run at system boot from /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit on Red Hat systems. Follow my recommendations

Re: Old Modules

2000-04-09 Thread Kenneth E. Lussier
Benjamin Scott wrote: You may also want to download pristine kernel sources from ftp.kernel.org and use those, rather then the kernel-source RPM. Red Hat patches their kernel in ways not always documented. This will also give you the separate directory for free, as the stock kernel will

Re: Netscape6

2000-04-09 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Sun, 9 Apr 2000, Derek Martin wrote: Anyway, as I recall, the majority of people on the Mozilla team were employees of netscape. I knew someone would bring that up. While they were in the pay of Netscape, the Mozilla team was working for the Mozilla project. Just as Transmeta

Re: Old Modules

2000-04-09 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Sun, 9 Apr 2000, Kenneth E. Lussier wrote: Whenever I install RH, the first thing I do is grab the *original* kernel source off the `net. One of the problems that I run into is that I tend to use several kernel patches (IPSec Masq, etc.), and they just don't work on the RH distribution

Re: supernetting ?

2000-04-09 Thread Benjamin Scott
On 4 Apr 2000, Adam Johnson wrote: Well, you'd have to set a similar route up on the Windows box as well, otherwise the packets will get there, but not return. Doh! I knew I was too tired to be trying network things when I wrote that. Yah, add the route on the 'doze box, and everything

Re: kernel config

2000-04-09 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Wed, 5 Apr 2000, tom r wrote: Anybody know what CONFIG_AEDSP16 in the kernel config does ? It's in the Sound section ? You may find these commands useful: cd /usr/src/linux grep -l CONFIG_AEDSP16 $( find -name "*.c" -o -name "*.h" | xargs ) It matches two files, both in

3c503 NIC configuration

2000-04-09 Thread Roger H. Goun
I"m trying to configure an old Dell Dimension XPS P90 for use as a LAN gateway/firewall. Red Hat Linux 6.1 installation was relatively uneventful--at least after I pried off the cover to see what sort of SCSI host adapter might be inside--but I find myself unable to get it to find the 3c503-16

Re: 3c503 NIC configuration

2000-04-09 Thread Thomas Charron
also compiled as a module that normally isn't. Not sure which it'd be, but I can say all of those defs are in net/netsyms.c in the kernel source tree.. Perhaps the "Network Device" tab has "Network Device Support" as an 'M' instead of a '*'? On reboot (following a hardware power bounce to be

Re: 3c503 NIC configuration

2000-04-09 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Sun, 9 Apr 2000, Roger H. Goun wrote: root@bcah /etc]# insmod 3c503 xcvr=0 io=0x300 irq=5 /lib/modules/2.2.12-20/net/3c503.o: unresolved symbol ei_open /lib/modules/2.2.12-20/net/3c503.o: unresolved symbol ethdev_init /lib/modules/2.2.12-20/net/3c503.o: unresolved symbol ei_interrupt

Pump vs dhcpcd

2000-04-09 Thread Thomas Charron
a *itch of a time getting dhcp data on startup from MediaOne, and I came accross something I *know* someone had a conversation with earlier.. My solution was to replace "pump" with "dhcpcd". Where pump was taking several tries to gather data, dhcpcd takes a few seconds. It still failed at

Re: Netscape6

2000-04-09 Thread Niall Kavanagh
On Sun, 9 Apr 2000, Benjamin Scott wrote: The Mozilla team was not working for Netscape, they were working for themselves, as a good Open Source project should. Supporting propriatary legacy code was pretty low on their list. And should remain so! The Moz team shouldn't have to wipe

Re: Pump vs dhcpcd

2000-04-09 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Sun, 9 Apr 2000, Thomas Charron wrote: What's up with pump? Is there some secret to it, or does it just not that great at times with certain dhcp servers? Does RH 6.2 update this? pump is, according to the documentation, a "a daemon that manages network interfaces that are controlled by

Linux Business Show

2000-04-09 Thread Jerry
Well, the changes have taken place on the Linux Business Show web page. My thanks to Ben Scott for his time this weekend to making the transformation. He also created our new Vendor sign-up page. Please go take a look. The agenda should be complete by Wed or Thursday and then to print. The