dd on Windows

2002-08-01 Thread Kenneth E. Lussier

Hi All,

I have a question that, personally, I find somewhat amusing... I have a
user that needs a bigger hard drive in his laptop. Naturally, he is
running Win2K (damn sales people...). But, he needs everything moved
from one drive to the other. I was thinking about taking the hard
drives, plugging them into IDE adapters, connecting them to a regular
PC, booting off of a Linux floppy, and dd-ing on drive onto the other.
Has anyone had any luck doing this with 1) Windows and 2) drives with
differeing geometries (which I don't think dd cares about)?

TIA,
Kenny
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Kenneth E. Lussier
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Re: dd on Windows

2002-08-01 Thread Ken Ambrose

Yah; works like a charm.  Honestly, though, I use cat (eg. cat /dev/source /dev/dest),
-- works great, too, and you don't need to know your source's size, either
-- it just ends when there's no more data.  (Also the way I create/write
floppy images.)  As for your geometry, all will probably be fine, BUT:
sometimes the NT bootloader gets pissed.  (Now -there's- a shock.)  It
requires some finagling; see Google if it happens to you.  Once done, you
could either create a new partition, or, with Partition Magic, expand the
current one.

$.02,

-Ken

On 1 Aug 2002, Kenneth E. Lussier wrote:

 Hi All,

 I have a question that, personally, I find somewhat amusing... I have a
 user that needs a bigger hard drive in his laptop. Naturally, he is
 running Win2K (damn sales people...). But, he needs everything moved
 from one drive to the other. I was thinking about taking the hard
 drives, plugging them into IDE adapters, connecting them to a regular
 PC, booting off of a Linux floppy, and dd-ing on drive onto the other.
 Has anyone had any luck doing this with 1) Windows and 2) drives with
 differeing geometries (which I don't think dd cares about)?

 TIA,
 Kenny
 --
 
 Tact is just *not* saying true stuff -- Cordelia Chase

 Kenneth E. Lussier
 Sr. Systems Administrator
 Zuken, USA
 PGP KeyID CB254DD0
 http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xCB254DD0



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Re: dd on Windows

2002-08-01 Thread Ben Boulanger

On 1 Aug 2002, Kenneth E. Lussier wrote:
 from one drive to the other. I was thinking about taking the hard
 drives, plugging them into IDE adapters, connecting them to a regular
 PC, booting off of a Linux floppy, and dd-ing on drive onto the other.
 Has anyone had any luck doing this with 1) Windows and 2) drives with
 differeing geometries (which I don't think dd cares about)?

I've recently been doing this with norton Ghost (as it's incredibly fast, 
believe it or not - it'll also do ext2 filesystems.. anyone tried that, by 
the way?)

I recall doing this awhile back, with the only gotcha of don't try to 
clone the partition, clone the drive.  IIRC, when I tried to clone the 
partition, I had to initialize the MBR seperately...  But it's been 
awhile, so don't quote me there.  

ben

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Re: dd on Windows

2002-08-01 Thread Andrew W. Gaunt

I would think you could use dd (either from linux or cygwin utils under
windows) to copy drives of the same geometry. With drives of different
geometries you will most likely have more difficulty. I won't say it's
not possible, but, I would guess that would be more steps involved and
not having done it, I don't know what those steps would be. I would sure
like to know in case I need to do it someday, however.

-Andy


Kenneth E. Lussier wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 
 I have a question that, personally, I find somewhat amusing... I have a
 user that needs a bigger hard drive in his laptop. Naturally, he is
 running Win2K (damn sales people...). But, he needs everything moved
 from one drive to the other. I was thinking about taking the hard
 drives, plugging them into IDE adapters, connecting them to a regular
 PC, booting off of a Linux floppy, and dd-ing on drive onto the other.
 Has anyone had any luck doing this with 1) Windows and 2) drives with
 differeing geometries (which I don't think dd cares about)?
 
 TIA,
 Kenny
 --
 
 Tact is just *not* saying true stuff -- Cordelia Chase
 
 Kenneth E. Lussier
 Sr. Systems Administrator
 Zuken, USA
 PGP KeyID CB254DD0
 http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xCB254DD0
 
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Article

2002-08-01 Thread Kenneth E. Lussier

As I was parusing Kero5hin, I came accross a great article. It is a
public apology to the Linux world for getting RMS on the GNU/Linux
kick. Funny read

http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=displaystory;sid=2002/8/1/04512/12614

C-Ya,
Kenny
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Kenneth E. Lussier
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Nahhh, we don't need to secure the *internal* network....

2002-08-01 Thread pll


We're behind a firewall.  We're safe!

http://online.securityfocus.com/news/558

Think again! (not that we haven't said *that* before either ;)
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GNHLUG / Boston User Groups MegaMeeting III

2002-08-01 Thread Bruce Dawson

GNHLUG is pleased to announce that we are participating in this year's
Boston User Groups' MegaMeeting III.  All local, technical user groups
are invitited to this meeting, which will be attended by 400-500 IT and
computer-related professionals in the Boston area, including CEOs, CTOs,
programmers, administrators and students.

WHERE AND WHEN IS IT?
The meeting will take place at the Sheraton Tara in Framingham, MA, on
September 25 from 6:30 - 9:30 PM

WILL THERE BE TECHNICAL PRESENTATIONS?
There will be two keynote presentations:

--Bob Davis, former CEO of Lycos and Terra Lycos.  Street Smart
Lessons from the Front Lines of Business.  In addition, a number of
copies of Bob's recent book Speed is Life will be given out to
attendees, and Bob will be available for a book-signing following the
meeting.

--Steve Melanson, president of Northeast DataVault (formerly
USDataCenters, site of last year's MegaMeeting II).  The State of
Internet Data Centers and Security Post-9/11.

ANYTHING ELSE?
After the presentations, all attendees will be invited to browse tables
that every user group will have set up, in addition to tables for our
sponsors. This will be your opportunity to grab some great information,
do some serious networking, and discover what the other user groups can
offer to you.

Door prizes are up for the taking at MegaMeeting.  Light refreshments
will be served.

There is a nominal $8/person admission if you've pre-registered. 
Walks-ins are also welcome, but the admission is $10/person.  The
pre-registration form is available at
http://www.BostonUserGroups.com/MegaMeeting.

Thank you, and Ben Scott and Paul Lussier (at least) look forward to
seeing you there! (They're manning the GNHLUG table.)




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Re: Nahhh, we don't need to secure the *internal* network....

2002-08-01 Thread Kenneth E. Lussier

So, basically, be suspicious if anyone brings in a gaming console and
sets it up in the breakroom.

My favorite quote form this was:

Most organizations focus on the perimeter, said Davis. Once you get
through the outside,  there's a soft chewy center.

Not a bad read. A little light on the details, and you can't really
dance to it, so I'd give it a 7.3 ;-)

C-Ya,
Kenny
 
On Thu, 2002-08-01 at 13:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 We're behind a firewall.  We're safe!
 
   http://online.securityfocus.com/news/558
 
 Think again! (not that we haven't said *that* before either ;)
 -- 
 
 Seeya,
 Paul
 
 
 
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Re: Article

2002-08-01 Thread Andrew W. Gaunt


Maybe we should call it:

G/linl - Gnu/linux is not linux.

That should clear up all the confusion ;)

-Andy


Kenneth E. Lussier wrote:
 
 As I was parusing Kero5hin, I came accross a great article. It is a
 public apology to the Linux world for getting RMS on the GNU/Linux
 kick. Funny read
 
 http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=displaystory;sid=2002/8/1/04512/12614
 
 C-Ya,
 Kenny
 --
 
 Tact is just *not* saying true stuff -- Cordelia Chase
 
 Kenneth E. Lussier
 Sr. Systems Administrator
 Zuken, USA
 PGP KeyID CB254DD0
 http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xCB254DD0
 
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Re: Article

2002-08-01 Thread Jon Hall

Hi,

When RMS started the campaign, I thought it was a big pain in the butt.  On
the other hand, I did agree that the work that the FSF and others (XFree86,
KDE, etc.) was getting lost in the commotion about Linux.

While I still tend to call the OS Linux, now I mention the FSF and the
other groups much more than I used to mention them.

So his campaign worked, to a large extent.

GNU/maddog
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Re: Article

2002-08-01 Thread bscott

On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, at 4:26pm, Jon Hall wrote:
 So his campaign worked, to a large extent.

  Unfortunately, his campaign also alienated a lot of (potential)  
supporters.  I have to wonder if he didn't end up with a net loss.

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Re: Nahhh, we don't need to secure the *internal* network....

2002-08-01 Thread Tom Buskey


I'd think an old 386 would be alot less noticable and more disposable.

Heck, how about a floppy based system?  Go up to an existing machine
already running on a friday afternoon and boot.  If it's a floppy, have
it erase itself after it boots.  It'd probably run undetected until
monday morning.

Kenneth E. Lussier said:
So, basically, be suspicious if anyone brings in a gaming console and
sets it up in the breakroom.

My favorite quote form this was:

Most organizations focus on the perimeter, said Davis. Once you get
through the outside,  there's a soft chewy center.

Not a bad read. A little light on the details, and you can't really
dance to it, so I'd give it a 7.3 ;-)

C-Ya,
Kenny
 
On Thu, 2002-08-01 at 13:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 We're behind a firewall.  We're safe!
 
  http://online.securityfocus.com/news/558
 
 Think again! (not that we haven't said *that* before either ;)
 -- 
 
 Seeya,
 Paul
 
 
 
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