RE: Linux Standardization (was: inted question)

2001-04-03 Thread Brad Maxwell
' Group Subject: Re: Linux Standardization (was: inted question) Benjamin Scott wrote: Maybe it's my background. I started off in the Unix world as a junior admin at UNH's Space Science Lab. They had just about every OS known to man there: DOS, Win 3.x, Win9X, WinNT, MacOS, Novell, Ultrix

Re: Linux Standardization (was: inted question)

2001-04-02 Thread Dan Jenkins
Benjamin Scott wrote: Maybe it's my background. I started off in the Unix world as a junior admin at UNH's Space Science Lab. They had just about every OS known to man there: DOS, Win 3.x, Win9X, WinNT, MacOS, Novell, Ultrix, OSF/1, IRIX, SunOS, Solaris, VMS... you name it. Anything

Re: Linux Standardization (was: inted question)

2001-03-26 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, Tom Rauschenbach wrote: Wow, I can't remember being called on the carpet better then this. (BTW: What the hell does called on the carpet mean ?) I believe it is a reference to being called into an office with (expensive) carpeting on the floor, where the manager then

Re: inted question

2001-03-26 Thread Cole Tuininga
Tom Rauschenbach wrote: Well no one is forcing you to upgrade, but look at all the posts saying that you are an incompetent moron if you don't... WRT RH7, I'd have to disagree. Most folks are avoiding it like the plague for it's choice of compilers. All our production machines are 6.2

Re: inted question

2001-03-25 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, Karl J. Runge wrote: Is there a good reason xinetd (at least from redhat) doesn't install its binary into /usr/sbin/inetd and read its config file from /etc/inetd.conf? xinetd uses a radically different approach to configuration than inetd, so strictly speaking, that

Re: inted question

2001-03-25 Thread Kurth Bemis
At 02:58 PM 3/25/2001, Tom Rauschenbach wrote: the other reason it may not be responding that its a REDHAT machine. :-) Debian rules! ~kurth Apparently my redhat based machine has no inetd ! Is this possible ? I guess this explains why it does not respond to telnet. -- --- Tom

Re: Linux Standardization (was: inted question)

2001-03-25 Thread Mark Komarinski
All this does is enforce the already-existing idea that Red Hat is not Debian is not Slackware and one Linux is not like the others. From an administraiton, packaging, or installation standpoint, this would be correct. But to spend my time searching for the documentation for packages between

Re: inted question

2001-03-25 Thread Karl J. Runge
On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, Mark Komarinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since each application can have its own configuration file, it's easier (and safer) to just create/blow away the config files for each service instead of editing /etc/inetd.conf directly. On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, Dan Jenkins [EMAIL

Re: Linux Standardization (was: inted question)

2001-03-25 Thread Mark Komarinski
Benjamin Scott wrote: On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, Mark Komarinski wrote: But to spend my time searching for the documentation for packages between /usr/doc or /usr/share/doc (as an example) is not a worthwhile use of my time. Indeed, that is a reason to stick with a particular

Re: inted question

2001-03-25 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, Tom Rauschenbach wrote: BTW: I think my problem is that I did a workstation install instead of a server install. I'm trying that now. Er, this might be too late, but all you have to do in that case is install the inetd package from the Red Hat CD-ROM. -- Ben Scott

Re: inted question

2001-03-25 Thread Mark Komarinski
Since each application can have its own configuration file, it's easier (and safer) to just create/blow away the config files for each service instead of editing /etc/inetd.conf directly. -Mark Tom Rauschenbach wrote: On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, Karl J. Runge wrote: On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, mike

Re: inted question

2001-03-25 Thread Derek Martin
On Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 05:37:27PM -0800, Karl J. Runge wrote: It is good to improve a tool like the inetd service. But to *force* everybody to immediately change over to a new syntax is uncool IMHO. I agree. Of course, Devil's advocate types might point out that no one is FORCING you to do

Re: inted question

2001-03-25 Thread Karl J. Runge
On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, mike ledoux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe that redhat switched to xinetd with RH7.0, but I don't have a RH7 system handy to verify this. If so, that could be your problem. Is there a good reason xinetd (at least from redhat) doesn't install its binary into

Re: inted question

2001-03-25 Thread Tom Rauschenbach
On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, Karl J. Runge wrote: On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, mike ledoux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe that redhat switched to xinetd with RH7.0, but I don't have a RH7 system handy to verify this. If so, that could be your problem. Is there a good reason xinetd (at least from

Re: inted question

2001-03-25 Thread Dan Jenkins
On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, Karl J. Runge wrote: On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, mike ledoux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe that redhat switched to xinetd with RH7.0, but I don't have a RH7 system handy to verify this. If so, that could be your problem. Is there a good reason xinetd (at least

Re: inted question

2001-03-25 Thread Mark Komarinski
You may have two different problems. RH 7.0 used xinetd instead of inetd. Also, telnet is split between client and server packages (Debian does the same). Make sure that telnet-server is installed. -Mark Tom Rauschenbach wrote: Apparently my redhat based machine has no inetd ! Is this

Package management (was: inted question)

2001-03-25 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, Tom Rauschenbach wrote: Yup, too late. But, I'd love to hear how to do that. I've never been able to figure out how to get a specific piece of software off of any distribution without installing the whole damn thing. For example, login as root, and issue these

Re: inted question

2001-03-25 Thread Tom Rauschenbach
On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, Benjamin Scott wrote: On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, Tom Rauschenbach wrote: BTW: I think my problem is that I did a workstation install instead of a server install. I'm trying that now. Er, this might be too late, but all you have to do in that case is install the inetd

Re: inted question

2001-03-25 Thread Tom Rauschenbach
On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, Derek Martin wrote: On Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 05:37:27PM -0800, Karl J. Runge wrote: It is good to improve a tool like the inetd service. But to *force* everybody to immediately change over to a new syntax is uncool IMHO. I agree. Of course, Devil's advocate types

inted question

2001-03-25 Thread Tom Rauschenbach
Apparently my redhat based machine has no inetd ! Is this possible ? I guess this explains why it does not respond to telnet. -- --- Tom Rauschenbach[EMAIL PROTECTED] All your base are belong to us ** To unsubscribe from this

Re: Linux Standardization (was: inted question)

2001-03-25 Thread Tom Rauschenbach
On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, Benjamin Scott wrote: On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, Tom Rauschenbach wrote: I do know that trying to work with two different distros at the same time is enlightening. Linux needs some standardization badly. No, *you* need some standardization badly. If you want Linux to be

Re: Linux Standardization (was: inted question)

2001-03-25 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, Mark Komarinski wrote: But to spend my time searching for the documentation for packages between /usr/doc or /usr/share/doc (as an example) is not a worthwhile use of my time. Indeed, that is a reason to stick with a particular distribution. Remember, folks: Linux is