Re: [OT] *GaSp*

2008-11-12 Thread Thomas Charron
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 11:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 08:04:10 -0500 From: Thomas Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did I just get a gnhlug mail again? :-D I have to confess, I was getting used to not receiving GNHLUG posts. :) When I saw the subject of this thread,

x86_64 Live-CD recommendations? /sbin/loader?

2008-11-12 Thread Michael ODonnell
I'm working on a product that's currently based on RHEL3 and whose installer is based on the venerable Timo's Rescue CD kit. We've ported our product to a more current version of Linux and when I went to port the installer I discovered that development on Timo's kit stopped after 2004 and it

Re: x86_64 Live-CD recommendations? /sbin/loader?

2008-11-12 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Michael ODonnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The CentOS5.2 LiveCD-creator kit looked promising until we found bugs that prevent it from running on our bleeding-edge hardware. I'm curious. Got time to provide any details? In particular, why would the regular

Re: x86_64 Live-CD recommendations? /sbin/loader?

2008-11-12 Thread Alex Hewitt
On Wed, 2008-11-12 at 11:08 -0500, Ben Scott wrote: On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Michael ODonnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The CentOS5.2 LiveCD-creator kit looked promising until we found bugs that prevent it from running on our bleeding-edge hardware. I'm curious. Got time to

Re: x86_64 Live-CD recommendations? /sbin/loader?

2008-11-12 Thread Michael ODonnell
The CentOS5.2 LiveCD-creator kit looked promising until we found bugs that prevent it from running on our bleeding-edge hardware. I'm curious. Got time to provide any details? In particular, why would the regular CentOS install disc work for you when the live disc would not? Aren't they

Re: x86_64 Live-CD recommendations? /sbin/loader?

2008-11-12 Thread Shawn O'Shea
So I've been looking for something that'll allow me to create a new bootable/live/rescue DVD that I can base the new installer on, and I'd love to find something as simple and flexible as the Timo's kit; something that just starts a kernel and boots up to a console login prompt with a

Re: x86_64 Live-CD recommendations? /sbin/loader?

2008-11-12 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Michael ODonnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On machines with IDE-connected drives ... ... machines with SATA-connected DVD drives ... Sheesh, that don't leave much. What good is a live CD that can't actually boot on 99% of the computers out there? ...

Re: x86_64 Live-CD recommendations? /sbin/loader?

2008-11-12 Thread Michael ODonnell
Note to self: Avoid CentOS live discs. ...or at least be careful: I don't claim that *all* discs created using that LiveCD-creator kit are b0rken and (to your point in a previous msg) the standard installation CDs and DVDs do seem to work just fine. But the ones I generated in-house

Re: Ben Scott Saved Our Bacon (Was: GNHLUG is back on the Internet)

2008-11-12 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 1:37 AM, Bill McGonigle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ben spent tons of hours working on our server recovery and even took a day off of work to get it back in action. While I sincerely appreciate the gesture, I think your idea of my effort paints me in a better light than

Re: x86_64 Live-CD recommendations? /sbin/loader?

2008-11-12 Thread Michael ODonnell
WTF is /sbin/loader ? It executes early during startup when booting from an ISO. The only stuff I can find online about this apparently pivotal item is lots of other people also asking questions, but no answers. Ah. I used strings on the /sbin/loader file from the ISO and divined that

Re: Ben Scott Saved Our Bacon (Was: GNHLUG is back on the Internet)

2008-11-12 Thread Bruce Dawson
Bill McGonigle wrote: Ben spent tons of hours working on our server recovery and even took a day off of work to get it back in action. He's the guy who really keeps our online presence running and we'd still be dead in the water without his efforts. I'm collecting funds here:

Re: x86_64 Live-CD recommendations? /sbin/loader?

2008-11-12 Thread Bruce Dawson
Michael ODonnell wrote: ... Since some of those parititions might be (as they are in our case) components of a software RAID and since the act of mounting them causes uncoordinated modfications to the mirrors behind MD's back, we're less than pleased with this helpful behavior. Bug reports

Re: x86_64 Live-CD recommendations? /sbin/loader? (RAID recovery)

2008-11-12 Thread Michael ODonnell
Since some of those parititions might be (as they are in our case) components of a software RAID and since the act of mounting them causes uncoordinated modfications to the mirrors behind MD's back, we're less than pleased with this helpful behavior. [...] Any idea how to recover those

Re: Update (K)Ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10

2008-11-12 Thread Mark Komarinski
On 11/12/2008 02:44 PM, Thomas Charron wrote: Anyone done it yet? Any, Your system wont work for 3 days while you frack with it gotchas? I had plain Ubuntu installed on my laptop and desktop. I think I chose the wrong mirror for the laptop and it told me there were no packages to

Re: Update (K)Ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10

2008-11-12 Thread Thomas Charron
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Mark Komarinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/12/2008 02:44 PM, Thomas Charron wrote: Anyone done it yet? Any, Your system wont work for 3 days while you frack with it gotchas? Upgrading my desktop was quite painless - we have a local mirror, so it was

Update (K)Ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10

2008-11-12 Thread Thomas Charron
Anyone done it yet? Any, Your system wont work for 3 days while you frack with it gotchas? And most importantly, when the upgrade to KDE 4.1 happens, can you get compiz back? -- -- Thomas ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list

Re: Ben Scott Saved Our Bacon (Was: GNHLUG is back on the Internet)

2008-11-12 Thread Ben Scott
P.S.: On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 8:00 AM, Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I sincerely appreciate the gesture, I think your idea of my effort paints me in a better light than the reality. In lieu of donations to me, I would like to request that people in a giving mood send any donations

Re: Update (K)Ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10

2008-11-12 Thread Greg Rundlett
I've been through the upgrade process and I'm still getting used to KDE 4. I'm frustrated by not being able to have a customized panel with direct launchers for all my favorite applications. For that matter, although I generally keep a clean desktop, I don't like the fact that KDE4 won't let me

Re: Update (K)Ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10

2008-11-12 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Greg Rundlett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: both my systems use nvidia or ati cards that are not supported yet (although they were supported under kde 3.x) WTF does KDE have to do with one's video card? Isn't that the X server's job? Linux gets closer and

Re: Update (K)Ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10

2008-11-12 Thread Thomas Charron
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Greg Rundlett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: both my systems use nvidia or ati cards that are not supported yet (although they were supported under kde 3.x) WTF does KDE have to do with one's video

Re: Update (K)Ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10

2008-11-12 Thread Thomas Charron
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Thomas Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After hearing about it, I did some research. It looks like KDE4 is using some OpenGL which some drivers have 'pretty big emotional issues' over. I'll let you know if I encounter any issues Greg. What's your card, and

Re: Update (K)Ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10

2008-11-12 Thread Thomas Charron
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Greg Rundlett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been through the upgrade process and I'm still getting used to KDE 4. Yea, I tried 4.0 when it came out, and reverted back to 3.x as I didn't feel it was up to par quite yet. I was hoping 4.1 did some catching up.

Re: Update (K)Ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10

2008-11-12 Thread Thomas Charron
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Thomas Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone done it yet? Any, Your system wont work for 3 days while you frack with it gotchas? And most importantly, when the upgrade to KDE 4.1 happens, can you get compiz back? I am.. Underwhelmed.. I've never seen

OT: The Matrix... is a Windows app?

2008-11-12 Thread Michael ODonnell
http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1886349 ObLinux: the very last line... ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/

Re: Update (K)Ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10

2008-11-12 Thread Thomas Charron
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 7:41 PM, Thomas Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Thomas Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone done it yet? Any, Your system wont work for 3 days while you frack with it gotchas? And most importantly, when the upgrade to KDE 4.1

Re: OT: The Matrix... is a Windows app?

2008-11-12 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 7:48 PM, Michael ODonnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1886349 That was amusing. The Professor Wikipedia video was funny. But Font Conference was *hilarious*! Who knew there was actual creative, original content on

Re: Update (K)Ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10

2008-11-12 Thread Brian Chabot
Greg Rundlett wrote: I've been through the upgrade process and I'm still getting used to KDE 4. I'm frustrated by not being able to have a customized panel with direct launchers for all my favorite applications. For that matter, although I generally keep a clean desktop, I don't like the