Re: cpu processing capabilities

2009-09-27 Thread Alex Hewitt
Lloyd Kvam wrote: http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=42014 claims that the P7550 supports virtualization which I expect to show up as vmx in the cpuflags. I bought a new HP laptop which featured a P7550 processor and expected to be able to use KVM. Unfortunately, the vmx flag is not

Enabling Virtual Machine support

2009-09-27 Thread Michael ODonnell
I have fairly deep OS-level experience (including some Virtual Machine work) but I confess that I'm not up on the very latest VM technology so to further the discussion let me ask something that may also have occurred to others: What is it in the nature of VM support in these processors (or

Re: Enabling Virtual Machine support

2009-09-27 Thread Lloyd Kvam
On Sun, 2009-09-27 at 12:43 -0400, Michael ODonnell wrote: So if VM support is enabled by flipping some bit(s) in some CPU Control Register(s) I'd assume that a VM-capable OS could flip those bits as well as any BIOS code. I suppose it's possible that the CPU might first insist on seeing a

Re: Enabling Virtual Machine support

2009-09-27 Thread Michael ODonnell
So if VM support is enabled by flipping some bit(s) in some CPU Control Register(s) I'd assume that a VM-capable OS could flip those bits as well as any BIOS code. I suppose it's possible that the CPU might first insist on seeing a certain logic level on a certain input pin before

Re: Enabling Virtual Machine support

2009-09-27 Thread Thomas Charron
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Michael ODonnell michael.odonn...@comcast.net wrote: Not certain I understand what you're saying but processors in this family come out of their power-on Reset state in their simplest, least capable mode - interrupts disabled, MMU disabled, 20bit Real Mode

Re: Enabling Virtual Machine support

2009-09-27 Thread Thomas Charron
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Thomas Charron twaf...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Michael ODonnell michael.odonn...@comcast.net wrote: Not certain I understand what you're saying but processors in this family come out of their power-on Reset state in their simplest,

Re: Enabling Virtual Machine support

2009-09-27 Thread Ben Scott
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Thomas Charron twaf...@gmail.com wrote:  Intel's VT-x extensions *MUST* be enabled and supported by BIOS. I'm not sure why ... I seem to recall this facet of the design being sold as a security feature. The scenario given was the entire nominal installed OS