Re: Google Wave?

2010-03-08 Thread Benjamin Scott
Here's what I learned about Google Wave tonight: GENERAL BEHAVIOR Google has implemented some common GUI concepts in JavaScript/AJAX. Things (like your folder list, your contact list, and Waves) appear in what are basically "windows" drawn on the web page canvas. Clicking the minimize button

Re: Google Wave?

2010-03-08 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
>We've got like, 6 of us in the same wave. It's.. My brain >hurts... To be fair, I also think that Wave does take a bit of "getting used to it". It is not meant to be like email, where someone types something and someone else "replies". It is more "Wiki-like", where you interject something

Re: Google Wave?

2010-03-08 Thread Thomas Charron
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Jon 'maddog' Hall wrote: > I have had a Google Wave account for some time through a company that I > work with. > > I have found it almost useless, since it does not interact well with > regular email, and since you have to be online to really use it. > > Also, unli

Re: Google Wave?

2010-03-08 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
I have had a Google Wave account for some time through a company that I work with. I have found it almost useless, since it does not interact well with regular email, and since you have to be online to really use it. Also, unlike some other Google products that had useful real functionality even

Google Wave?

2010-03-08 Thread Benjamin Scott
Hey, anyone hanging out bored right now (Mon 8 March 2010 at 8 PM EST), and who has a Google Wave account, email me (dragonh...@gmail.com). I'm here at SLUG (Durham meeting) and we're trying to figure out what Google Wave is good for. If anything. Or, if you don't have a Wave account and want on

Re: Interesting article,

2010-03-08 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
>I propose the "rarely" here is a function of the company in question. >Even Apple falls into this category for they did not design every thing >about everything they sell either. To that point, there is rarely a >company worth much more than they are charging across most industries. >=) The issu

The illegality of playing DVDs on Linux (was Re: Interesting article)

2010-03-08 Thread Alan Johnson
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 8:30 PM, Benjamin Scott wrote: > On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Jon 'maddog' Hall wrote: > >>Not one Linux distro I've seen does a convincing job with consumer > >>media, an absolutely basic requirement, and something we ought to be > >>able to get right. > > > > Well, pl

Re: Interesting article,

2010-03-08 Thread Alan Johnson
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Benjamin Scott wrote: > On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Alan Johnson wrote: > >>> > Well, except MacOSX has specific hardware. > >>> > >>> Indeed, that's a big part of Apple's strategy. Design the hardware > >>> and the software together, and they'll work well

My article for the Concord Monitor will be in this Sunday's paper...

2010-03-08 Thread Susan Cragin
I finally sat down and wrote for the common man. And all I'm going to say, is, the Monitor loved it. It'll be in this Sunday's paper, and I'll post the link when it comes out in the internet version, usually on Monday. Susan ___ gnhlug-discuss maili

[GNHLUG] Seacoast/UNH/Durham/SLUG - Mon 8 Mar - Google Wave

2010-03-08 Thread Benjamin Scott
What : Google Wave Date : Mon 8 March 2010 Time : 7 PM to 9 PM Where: Room 301, Morse Hall, UNH, Durham, NH "Google Wave is an online software application product of Google, described as ... a web-based service, computing platform, and communications protocol designed to merge e-mail, instant mess

Re: DECnet and other dead technologies

2010-03-08 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
Bill McGonigle writes: > > On 03/07/2010 11:01 AM, Jon 'maddog' Hall wrote: > > o every hardware support contract received a letter > > o every software support contract received a letter > > There are real advantages to knowing who is using your software. The > Fedora people have excellent aca

Re: OT? - Broadband Troubleshooting

2010-03-08 Thread Kevin D. Clark
Greg writes: > I have a problem and not sure the best approach to isolate and resolve > it. My home network seems to have momentary (1-15 seconds) lapses in > response time or connectivity. The network setup is pretty standard. > Broadband connection, Linksys router running Tomato, a couple

Re: Interesting

2010-03-08 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Bill McGonigle wrote: > On 03/07/2010 02:56 PM, Jon 'maddog' Hall wrote: >> "New February 12, 2009 - VirtualBox 3.1.4 released! Oracle today >> released." > > Dammit, they've discovered Sun's secret time-travel project too. ;) "We have always been at war with

Re: DECnet and other dead technologies (was: Linux for "cloud computing")

2010-03-08 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Jon 'maddog' Hall wrote: > In any statistical analysis there is the answer, then the statistical > range and deviations, then the probability that the answer and > statistical range and deviations are accurate ... ... which is more commonly stated as "Lies, damn

Re: DECnet and other dead technologies (was: Linux for "cloud computing")

2010-03-08 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
>On 03/07/2010 11:01 AM, Jon 'maddog' Hall wrote: >> o every hardware support contract received a letter >> o every software support contract received a letter >There are real advantages to knowing who is using your software. Well, this was not "knowing who was using your software". It was "know

Re: Interesting

2010-03-08 Thread Bill McGonigle
On 03/07/2010 02:56 PM, Jon 'maddog' Hall wrote: > "New February 12, 2009 - VirtualBox 3.1.4 released! Oracle today > released." Dammit, they've discovered Sun's secret time-travel project too. ;) -Bill -- Bill McGonigle, Owner BFC Computing, LLC http://bfccomputing.com/ Telephone: +1.603.4

Re: DECnet and other dead technologies (was: Linux for "cloud computing")

2010-03-08 Thread Bill McGonigle
On 03/07/2010 11:01 AM, Jon 'maddog' Hall wrote: > o every hardware support contract received a letter > o every software support contract received a letter There are real advantages to knowing who is using your software. The Fedora people have excellent academic debates about using software up

Re: OT? - Broadband Troubleshooting

2010-03-08 Thread Brian St. Pierre
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Benjamin Scott wrote: > On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Greg wrote: >> What's the best approach to isolating or identifying the details of this >> problem?  One obvious solution is to log some pings for a day or two. > >  This is tricky because what you're looking

Re: OT? - Broadband Troubleshooting

2010-03-08 Thread Ben Eisenbraun
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 02:12:50PM -0500, Benjamin Scott wrote: > On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Greg wrote: > > What's the best approach to isolating or identifying the details of this > > problem?  One obvious solution is to log some pings for a day or two. > > This is tricky because what y

Re: OT? - Broadband Troubleshooting

2010-03-08 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
I to not claim to be in the same league when it comes to networking as Ben, but I have noticed with some VoIP applications that I use and the people I call that it is often not the problem with "my" network. Some people I call are in far-off places, with really bad dial-up lines and over time the

Re: OT? - Broadband Troubleshooting

2010-03-08 Thread Greg
Comcast Cable I use uTorrent (also subject to QoS filters to reduce it's priority) but this problem seems unrelated since I can power off the uTorrent machine and get the same results. I appreciate the "Packet Delay Variation" and "Jitter" comments. Fodder for the search engines. I'll check

Re: OT? - Broadband Troubleshooting

2010-03-08 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Greg wrote: > The network setup is pretty standard. Broadband connection ... What type of Internet connection and who is the provider? For example, "Comcast cable", "FairPoint DSL", "Verizon FiOS", etc. > It seems to be an outbound problem (I can hear fine al

OT? - Broadband Troubleshooting

2010-03-08 Thread Greg
I've been around this list a long time, although usually in listen only mode and I've seen some pretty interesting discussions. Thank you for some very interesting threads. I have a problem and not sure the best approach to isolate and resolve it. My home network seems to have momentary (1-15

Re: Interesting

2010-03-08 Thread Tom Buskey
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Kenny Lussier wrote: > On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Jon 'maddog' Hall wrote: > > While working on my paper about Linux and "Cloud Computing" (and thanks > > to all the people who sent me input), I went to the VirtualBox site: > > > > http://www.virtualbox.org/

Re: DECnet and other dead technologies (was: Linux for "cloud computing")

2010-03-08 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
>Because they thought they wouldn't have to find a new solution to >replace the old. And the new one won't last as long. A very "Unix Philosophy" type of answer. AND because the current solution did everything they wanted it to do (run the payroll)...another "Unix-like" reason. md

Re: DECnet and other dead technologies (was: Linux for "cloud computing")

2010-03-08 Thread Tom Buskey
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Benjamin Scott wrote: > > Vernor Vinge (of "technological singularity" fame), in his fiction > novel /A Deepness In The Sky/, posited the job role of "software > archaeologist". Given enough time (say, 100s or 1000s of years), > we're going to get to the point wh

Re: DECnet and other dead technologies (was: Linux for "cloud computing")

2010-03-08 Thread Tom Buskey
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:30 PM, Jon 'maddog' Hall wrote: > >I've already heard of people running an emulator on > >top of an emulator inside of a VM solely to keep some old application > >alive. > > One or two years ago I was at a small technical college someplace and > the professors (knowing I