Re: How To Ask Questions The Smart Way

2009-10-11 Thread Steven W. Orr
On 10/10/09 14:51, quoth David Hardy: This discussion reminds me of a number of IT job interviews I had where the tech questions asked of me were delivered in a smug, condescending tone, and if I didn't know every single facet of their infrastructure when I walked through their door, then I

Re: How To Ask Questions The Smart Way

2009-10-10 Thread Alex Hewitt
@mail.gnhlug.org Sent: Fri, October 9, 2009 8:40:44 PM Subject: Re: How To Ask Questions The Smart Way OK. I'll bite. What aspects of that document do you not like? --Bruce Lori Nagel wrote: For no particular reason, I will say I do not think very highly of that document. - Original

Re: How To Ask Questions The Smart Way

2009-10-10 Thread Coleman Kane
On Sat, 2009-10-10 at 09:04 -0400, Alex Hewitt wrote: Lori has hit it on the head. The document reeks of us and them. I taught programming for several years at a community college. I told my students that there were no stupid questions. I told them that if they asked me a question 5

Re: How To Ask Questions The Smart Way

2009-10-10 Thread Bruce Labitt
As the person who may or may not have been the object of the OP, allow me to make a comment. I found the linked document to be both condescending and informative. For a while I was quite irritated. I think I'm over it now. There are better ways to ask a question so that one can get good

Re: How To Ask Questions The Smart Way

2009-10-10 Thread David Hardy
This discussion reminds me of a number of IT job interviews I had where the tech questions asked of me were delivered in a smug, condescending tone, and if I didn't know every single facet of their infrastructure when I walked through their door, then I must be a dolt and a fool. (I only had 13

Re: How To Ask Questions The Smart Way

2009-10-10 Thread Kevin D. Clark
Lori Nagel writes: It took me half a year just to figure out how to add the math library into the compiler so I could compile some basic C programs from one of the C programing books I have. Sorry, I must politely disagree that a situation like this relates in any way to any of the negative

Re: How To Ask Questions The Smart Way

2009-10-10 Thread Drew Van Zandt
I dislike the document because it's pedantically long-winded. It desperately needs an executive summary. Anyone willing to read enough of the document to benefit from it is likely already asking reasonable questions, and thus is likely *not* the target audience. --DTVZ On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at

How To Ask Questions The Smart Way

2009-10-09 Thread Kevin D. Clark
For no particular reason, I will mention that I think that this is a really good document. http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html I hope that others enjoy it as well. Kind regards, --kevin -- GnuPG ID: B280F24EGod, I loved that Pontiac. alumni.unh.edu!kdc

Re: How To Ask Questions The Smart Way

2009-10-09 Thread Lori Nagel
For no particular reason, I will say I do not think very highly of that document. - Original Message From: Kevin D. Clark kevin_d_cl...@comcast.net To: Greater NH Linux User Group gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org Sent: Fri, October 9, 2009 12:38:52 PM Subject: How To Ask Questions

Re: How To Ask Questions The Smart Way

2009-10-09 Thread Kevin D. Clark
Lori Nagel writes: For no particular reason, I will say I do not think very highly of that document. Everybody is entitled to their opinion. In fact, I do not agree with every aspect of that document. But overall I like it. Kind regards, --kevin -- GnuPG ID: B280F24EGod,

Re: How To Ask Questions The Smart Way

2009-10-09 Thread Bruce Dawson
-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org Sent: Fri, October 9, 2009 12:38:52 PM Subject: How To Ask Questions The Smart Way For no particular reason, I will mention that I think that this is a really good document. http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html I hope that others enjoy it as well. Kind

Re: [OT] How To Ask Questions The Smart Way

2009-10-09 Thread Michael ODonnell
Eric Raymond can be a PITA but in this case his recommendations (or, more to the point, the principles behind them) are refined and spot-on; they're applicable in pretty much any situation involving interactions among multiple (smart) parties, not just online mailing lists...

Re: How To Ask Questions The Smart Way

2009-10-09 Thread Ken D'Ambrosio
*sigh* I have no particular problem with that particular document. I actually think it's pretty well-written, despite a slightly preachy tone. BUT... I get tired of ESR fast. Real fast. Ever read any recent copies of The Jargon File? I deeply dislike the way he feels he speaks for all

Re: How To Ask Questions The Smart Way

2009-10-09 Thread Ken D'Ambrosio
Ben Scott dragonh...@gmail.com writes: I've very often also found that while framing up a question in a smart fashion, I'll realize what I haven't done but should The ironic corollary to this that bites me about once a year is that I'm busy banging my head against a problem. I finally give

Re: How To Ask Questions The Smart Way

2009-10-09 Thread Kevin D. Clark
Ken D'Ambrosio writes: He's clearly been a force for good. But there's been an awful lot of baggage he's dragged around with him, and it seems to seep into most all his writings to some extent or another. Ken has expressed here, more elegantly than I could have, my main objections to this

Re: How To Ask Questions The Smart Way

2009-10-09 Thread Lori Nagel
Subject: Re: How To Ask Questions The Smart Way OK. I'll bite. What aspects of that document do you not like? --Bruce Lori Nagel wrote: For no particular reason, I will say I do not think very highly of that document. - Original Message From: Kevin D. Clark kevin_d_cl