Data retrieval from dead laptop

2003-06-18 Thread Roger H. Goun
What's the best way to retrieve files from the hard drive of a dead laptop? I have a three-year old Sony VAIO Z505JS laptop that refuses to start. I've been through all the usual troubleshooting steps. It would cost almost $100 just to get a repair quote from Sony's service department, and a

Re: Data retrieval from dead laptop

2003-06-18 Thread Mark Fearer
They sell adapters that can hook a laptop sized hard drive to the ribbon cable of a PC. Make it a secondary slave disk on a knowm good PC, preferably on a network, boot up the PC, mount the secondary disk under some /tmp mount point, then tar or cp to a backup area. On Wed, 18 Jun 2003, Roger

RE: Data retrieval from dead laptop

2003-06-18 Thread Chris Blake
What's the best way to retrieve files from the hard drive of a dead laptop? Depends on how it died. If it was non-hard drive related, the hard drive is IDE and, with a cheap adapter, you can plug it in as a slave drive in any desktop to move data over. If the drive is the cause of the PC

Re: NIS - Could not read ypservers map during make

2003-06-18 Thread ken
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003, at 5:45pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No. My understanding is that ypbind is only run on NIS clients, no? No. It's run on everything -- the server is, indeed, still a client Okay, I'm definitely confused now. Nothing I've seen anywhere says that NIS servers have

Re: NIS - Could not read ypservers map during make

2003-06-18 Thread Mark Komarinski
This is what I get for playing too much GTA: Vice City instead of reading e-mail. Instead of saying what he said to Ken's responses, here's my thoughts. On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 06:03:27PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 17 Jun 2003, at 5:45pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No. My

Re: Stupid browser tricks

2003-06-18 Thread Erik Price
Michael O'Donnell wrote: Bookmarklets are way cool! Here are some more: http://www.squarefree.com/bookmarklets And some more by Kevin Smith, who calls them favelets: http://centricle.com/tools/favelets/ Most are oriented toward assisting web developers in plying their craft. Erik

RE: ISP TOS violations

2003-06-18 Thread Travis Roy
When M1/ATT blocked port 80 during code red everybody moaned and bitched.. They eventually lifted the block but one of my friends didn't get lifted, he still had a blocked port 80, so did everybody on his node.. Well, to make a long story short, he called about it and now he forever has port 80

ISP TOS violations (was: web mail)

2003-06-18 Thread bscott
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003, at 6:41pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just because they told you that they won't let you doesn't make it suck any less that you can't... And just because you or any number of other people think it sucks doesn't mean their TOS don't apply. :-) ...and of course /no one/

Re: Data retrieval from dead laptop

2003-06-18 Thread pll
In a message dated: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 09:10:45 EDT Roger H. Goun said: What's the best way to retrieve files from the hard drive of a dead laptop? I have a three-year old Sony VAIO Z505JS laptop that refuses to start. Will it just not boot? I highly recommend getting a copy of Knoppix on CD

Re: ISP TOS violations (was: web mail)

2003-06-18 Thread Mark Komarinski
On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 10:14:24AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since I know people will bring this up: Yes, there is a lack of competition in the industry, and yes, cable monopolies are unfair, and yes, business class Internet feeds are overpriced. None of that invalidates my points.

Re: Data retrieval from dead laptop

2003-06-18 Thread Erik Price
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will it just not boot? I highly recommend getting a copy of Knoppix on CD and attempting to boot from that. My wife's laptop died not too long ago with a bad hard drive failure. I was able to boot off of CD with Knoppix, which correctly identified all the system

Re: Data retrieval from dead laptop

2003-06-18 Thread Roger H. Goun
Thanks for all the cogent responses. The laptop is genuinely dead, not just hosed. (I run Debian unstable. I can tell the difference. :-) No lights, no horrible grinding noises from the hard drive, nothing. I tried two different known-good batteries, with and without the A/C adapter, with and

Re: NIS - Could not read ypservers map during make

2003-06-18 Thread pll
On Wed, 18 Jun 2003, ken == [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: + My copy of Managing NFS and NIS, by Hal Stern, page 23, says + that the NIS master should not include the +:: entry in the + /etc/passwd file. On page 26, it states that NIS clients must + have that entry. ken Adding the +

Re: Data retrieval from dead laptop

2003-06-18 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Wed, 18 Jun 2003 12:56:01 -0400 Roger H. Goun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once I figure out how to get the hard drive out (I've removed every screw in sight, but still can't get the clamshell apart) so I can verify that it's the standard 44-pin IDE interface, I'll order a 44-pin to 40-pin IDE

Re: Knoppix (was: Data retrieval from dead laptop)

2003-06-18 Thread David Long
I burned some Knoppix 3.2 CD's recently (2003-06-06 release) and will be bringing them to the meeting on the 25th as giveaways. First dibs accepted from newbies. -dl -- David A. Long JumpShift, LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list

Re: NIS - Could not read ypservers map during make

2003-06-18 Thread pll
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003, ken == [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: + No. My understanding is that ypbind is only run on NIS clients, + no? ken No. It's run on everything -- the server is, indeed, still a ken client (unless for some bizarre reason it was determined that ken even though it served

Re: NIS - Could not read ypservers map during make

2003-06-18 Thread Tom Buskey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2) Is it running ypbind? No. My understanding is that ypbind is only run on NIS clients, no? No. It's run on everything -- the server is, indeed, still a client (unless for some bizarre reason it was determined that even though it served the data, it didn't need to

Re: Data retrieval from dead laptop

2003-06-18 Thread Tom Buskey
Erik Price wrote: Man! I wish I'd thought of that a few weeks ago! I was in a similar situation to the OP. I'm going to keep a copy of Knoppix in my car's emergency kit. A more minimal CD is @Stake's Security Toolkit: http://www.atstake.com/research/tools/pst/

Re: Data retrieval from dead laptop

2003-06-18 Thread Roger H. Goun
On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 01:06:14PM -0400, you wrote: On Wed, 18 Jun 2003 12:56:01 -0400 Roger H. Goun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once I figure out how to get the hard drive out (I've removed every screw in sight, but still can't get the clamshell apart) so I can verify that it's the

Re: NIS - Could not read ypservers map during make

2003-06-18 Thread pll
In a message dated: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 11:42:32 EDT Tom Buskey said: To fix it, I made all the YP slaves (and the master) bind to themselves. Paul, do you remember that day? No, I've subconsciously blocked it and other atrocities committed at that location from my memory. It's just too painful

Re: comcast and linux

2003-06-18 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Wed, 18 Jun 2003 14:13:29 -0400 Chris Brenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Throw the NIC in a Windows box, register, and move the NIC to your Linux system. I just have a minimal Windows system installed for dual boot. My router and desktop system have the same MAC address. Then you don't need to

Re: comcast and linux

2003-06-18 Thread Jeff Macdonald
On Wed, 2003-06-18 at 14:13, Chris Brenton wrote: Throw the NIC in a Windows box, register, and move the NIC to your Linux system. Does this mean you can't use routers/NATs like SMC Barricade? -- Jeff Macdonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] Into birding? Check out http://www.migratus.com

Re: comcast and linux

2003-06-18 Thread Mark Komarinski
On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 02:23:27PM -0400, Jeff Macdonald wrote: On Wed, 2003-06-18 at 14:13, Chris Brenton wrote: Throw the NIC in a Windows box, register, and move the NIC to your Linux system. Does this mean you can't use routers/NATs like SMC Barricade? My Barricade has a field

Re: Replacing NIS [was:NIS - Could not read ypservers map during make]

2003-06-18 Thread Mark Komarinski
On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 01:22:06PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 18 Jun 2003, Derek == Derek Martin wrote: Derek Another way is to set up an NIS-like master-slave Derek relationship with the master and one host on each subnet Derek where systems which need the files live.

Re: Data retrieval from dead laptop

2003-06-18 Thread bscott
On Wed, 18 Jun 2003, at 12:56pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once I figure out how to get the hard drive out (I've removed every screw in sight, but still can't get the clamshell apart) What brand and model? One common thing: On many laptops, you need to remove the keyboard to expose more

Re: Replacing NIS [was:NIS - Could not read ypservers map during make]

2003-06-18 Thread Mark Komarinski
On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 02:28:40PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 18 Jun 2003, mark == Mark Komarinski wrote: mark All you've done is reimplement NIS - poorly. Well, that was basically the gist of the conversation, how to implementt NIS without the flaws of NIS. I don't

Admin horror stories (was: Replacing NIS)

2003-06-18 Thread bscott
On Wed, 18 Jun 2003, at 4:05pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Imagine my suprise when I accidentally set a desktop's IP address to be that of the NFS server. You can't be a sysadmin for long without doing something like that. At my first Unix job, I was there about 6 months before rebooting a

Re: Admin horror stories (was: Replacing NIS)

2003-06-18 Thread Morbus Iff
Anyone care to top that? (I have no doubt that some could; I'm curious if What about an erroneous rsync --delete on the /etc directory? :) -- Morbus Iff ( i put the demon back in codemonkey ) Culture: http://www.disobey.com/ and http://www.gamegrene.com/ Buy My Book!

Re: Replacing NIS [was:NIS - Could not read ypservers map during make]

2003-06-18 Thread Kevin D. Clark
Derek Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't even disagree with you. Actually, you and I argued about this a long time ago on this list. But if you don't disagree with me now, that's great. --kevin -- Kevin D. Clark / Cetacean Networks / Portsmouth, N.H. (USA) cetaceannetworks.com!kclark