[GNHLUG] MonadLUG 4/10/08: Joomla -- CORRECTION!

2008-04-08 Thread charlie
Who:Guy Pardoe What: Joomla - Content Management System Date: Thursday, April 10, 2008 Time: 7:00PM Where: SAU 1 office, 106 Hancock Rd., Peterborough             http://wiki.gnhlug.org/twiki2/bin/view/Www/MonadLUG -- Charles Farinella 14 East Ridge Drive Peterborough, NH 03458

Re: low power linux PC?

2008-04-08 Thread Star
I've got a set of the Western Digital 'Green' drives coming in tomorrow (whoops...today now): 8.5 Watts - only 5400 RPM though (so I'm expecting to cache aggressively). I'm trying to build a quiet, powerful 1U server so every Watt counts in keeping the fans slow (quiet). We'll see,

gnuplot woes

2008-04-08 Thread Labitt, Bruce
Hi, I'm trying to install gnuplot on a Centos box. I tried installing via compilation and have run into a couple of issues. Compilation failed because of no numeric python package. So I thought, that is easy - downloaded that and tried the install. It complained about BLAS and LAPACK libs.

New distro question

2008-04-08 Thread Labitt, Bruce
I realize this is / was / will be a religious argument, but I'm having trouble with this distribution of Centos on my computer. I was wondering if there was a distro more up to date and was suited for scientific calculations. I'm familiar with FC6, due to a myth install (thanks Jarod, Ben et al)

Re: New distro question

2008-04-08 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 11:59 AM, Labitt, Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm having trouble with this distribution of Centos on my computer. Anything specific? If you're otherwise happy with CentOS, we might be able to help address those problems. I was wondering if there was a distro more

Re: gnuplot woes

2008-04-08 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Labitt, Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to install gnuplot on a Centos box. I tried installing via compilation and have run into a couple of issues. Have you tried adding the popular third-party repositories -- especially rpmforge? I find they

Re: gnuplot woes

2008-04-08 Thread Tom Buskey
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Labitt, Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm trying to install gnuplot on a Centos box. I tried installing via compilation and have run into a couple of issues. Compilation failed because of no numeric python package. So I thought, What? Can you

RE: New distro question

2008-04-08 Thread Flaherty, Patrick
I realize this is / was / will be a religious argument, but I'm having trouble with this distribution of Centos on my computer. I was wondering if there was a distro more up to date and was suited for scientific calculations. ... It doesn't have to be cool, although that is ok. It does

Re: gnuplot woes

2008-04-08 Thread Shawn O'Shea
I did a 'yum list gnuplot\*' on my CentOS 4.6 box. It says gnuplot comes with CentOS Available Packages gnuplot.i386 4.0.0-4 base gnuplot-emacs.i386 4.0.0-4 base You should just be able to do (as root with an Internet connection): yum install

Re: gnuplot woes

2008-04-08 Thread Lloyd Kvam
On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 11:52 -0400, Labitt, Bruce wrote: I tried installing via compilation and have run into a couple of issues. If you can get the packages via yum, your life will be much simpler. I would have expected numpy and ScientificPython to be available through yum. If you need to

Re: gnuplot woes

2008-04-08 Thread Lloyd Kvam
On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 11:52 -0400, Labitt, Bruce wrote: I'm trying to install gnuplot on a Centos box. gnuplot is available for fedora8 as a package. I'm pretty cautious about using the outside repositories, so I assume it came from the fedora project repository. -- Lloyd Kvam Venix Corp

Re: New distro question

2008-04-08 Thread Dan Jenkins
Labitt, Bruce wrote: I realize this is / was / will be a religious argument, but I'm having trouble with this distribution of Centos on my computer. I was wondering if there was a distro more up to date and was suited for scientific calculations. Personally, we use Mandriva. It generally

RE: New distro question

2008-04-08 Thread Labitt, Bruce
Umm, it is probably that I'm not used to it... ;) I find it awkward compared to either FC6 (gnome) or suse (kde). I can't put my finger on it yet. I didn't install it, so even now, after futzing about with it, I'm not quite sure what is on it, and where. The original owner doesn't care if I

Re: gnuplot woes

2008-04-08 Thread Labitt, Bruce
To all the folks who responded off list, thanks. I do know that I could install via yum. Sometimes we want to do things the hard way. I'm sure some of you (probably all of you) can appreciate that. I'll probably end up using yum, but I was wondering how to build it from source. It looks

Re: New distro question

2008-04-08 Thread Michael ODonnell
That way the list can continue to have discussions [...] with out having me bother everyone. :) The signal on this channel is Linux, so if you're talking Linux you're not bothering anyone because that's why we're all gathered here. Of course, you get extra credit for taking newbies and

Re: New distro question

2008-04-08 Thread Kevin D. Clark
Labitt, Bruce writes: I realize this is / was / will be a religious argument, but I'm having trouble with this distribution of Centos on my computer. I was wondering if there was a distro more up to date and was suited for scientific calculations. I'm familiar with FC6, due to a myth

RE: New distro question

2008-04-08 Thread Jarod Wilson
On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 13:24 -0400, Labitt, Bruce wrote: Umm, it is probably that I'm not used to it... ;) I find it awkward compared to either FC6 (gnome) or suse (kde). I can't put my finger on it yet. I didn't install it, so even now, after futzing about with it, I'm not quite sure what

Re: gnuplot woes

2008-04-08 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Labitt, Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To all the folks who responded off list, thanks. I do know that I could install via yum. Sometimes we want to do things the hard way. Well, then, it should be hard, shouldn't it? ;-) One thing you may want to try is

Re: New distro question

2008-04-08 Thread Jarod Wilson
On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 13:56 -0400, Ben Scott wrote: On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Labitt, Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find it awkward compared to either FC6 (gnome) ... That's curious. RHEL/CentOS and Fedora are typically very similar. They use all the same tools. I wouldn't go

List topic (was: New distro question)

2008-04-08 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Michael ODonnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The signal on this channel is Linux ... I should probably take this opportunity to issue my occasional reminder that there is no charter or defined topic for this list.

RE: New distro question

2008-04-08 Thread Labitt, Bruce
Comments below: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Scott Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 1:56 PM To: Greater NH Linux User Group Subject: Re: New distro question On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Labitt, Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I

re: eee mania!

2008-04-08 Thread Warren Luebkeman
I thought you might be interested to know that the Jaffrey/Rindge school district is deploying 24 eee PCs to a group of students next week. The plan is that this is a proof of concept for a 1-to-1 computing initiative for their middle school, which potentially could happen in the next year or

Re: gnuplot woes

2008-04-08 Thread Tom Buskey
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Labitt, Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To all the folks who responded off list, thanks. I do know that I could install via yum. Sometimes we want to do things the hard way. I'm sure some of you (probably all of you) can appreciate that. I used to compile

Re: New distro question

2008-04-08 Thread Šarūnas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Labitt, Bruce wrote: I realize this is / was / will be a religious argument, but I'm having trouble with this distribution of Centos on my computer. I was wondering if there was a distro more up to date and was suited for scientific calculations.

Re: New distro question

2008-04-08 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Šarūnas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In case of Debian, unstable is quite stable actually ... Last time I used it (about 14 months ago), Debian unstable had package churn on the order of tens or hundreds of megabytes per week. -- Ben

Re: New distro question

2008-04-08 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Labitt, Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Labitt, Bruce] Is a Centos upgrade as ugly as a SuSE upgrade? In other words, save \usr, \home, install over everything? Every kind of head-wear Linux I've ever used has been able to upgrade previous versions in-place.

Re: gnuplot woes

2008-04-08 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: None of the package systems work well with /usr/local on NFS. FWIW and FYI, the Linux filesystem hierarchy standard (FHS) is designed such that /usr can be replicated out, so you can do things like a read-only NFS export or

Re: low power linux PC?

2008-04-08 Thread Bill McGonigle
Thanks for the feedback on the Green drives. Good to hear! On Apr 8, 2008, at 09:01, Star wrote: Since we're using them primarily as NFS mounts over Gigabit Ethernet, the bottleneck hasn't been the I/O. They're currently configged in RAID-10 (software) with ext3 FS's. Yeah, and that's a

Re: low power linux PC?

2008-04-08 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Apr 8, 2008, at 00:10, Bill McGonigle wrote: 8.5 Watts - only 5400 RPM though (so I'm expecting to cache aggressively). Ah, nutz, I see Seagate just released something darn close in 7200RPM: http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?p=5552484 -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner

Off-topic - Mounting multiple USB sticks on Win XP

2008-04-08 Thread Lloyd Kvam
A neighbor asked for help with mounting his USB sticks. He has directories mapped to drive letters D,E, and F to mimic partitions from the days when Windows could not handle large partitions gracefully. When a USB stick got inserted, it grabbed the D drive letter fouling up his software. I

Re: gnuplot woes

2008-04-08 Thread Tom Buskey
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: None of the package systems work well with /usr/local on NFS. FWIW and FYI, the Linux filesystem hierarchy standard (FHS) is designed such that /usr can

YAQ Setting up vncviewer

2008-04-08 Thread Labitt, Bruce
YAQ... :) I'd like to vnc from my centos4.5 box (so far) to a ps3 running YDL6. I can ssh from centos to ydl without a problem. However, when I try to vnc from centos to ydl I get Main: unable to connect to host: No route to host (113) This is on a local network, so there is only a local

Re: YAQ Setting up vncviewer

2008-04-08 Thread Tom Buskey
2008/4/8 Labitt, Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED]: YAQ... :) I'd like to vnc from my centos4.5 box (so far) to a ps3 running YDL6. I can ssh from centos to ydl without a problem. However, when I try to vnc from centos to ydl I get Main: unable to connect to host: No route to host (113) Is

Re: YAQ Setting up vncviewer

2008-04-08 Thread Lloyd Kvam
On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 16:29 -0400, Labitt, Bruce wrote: I'd like to vnc from my centos4.5 box (so far) to a ps3 running YDL6. I can ssh from centos to ydl without a problem. I normally tunnel my vnc connections through ssh vncviewer -via laptop localhost:1 allows me to access my

RE: YAQ Setting up vncviewer

2008-04-08 Thread Labitt, Bruce
Comments below. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Buskey Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 4:49 PM To: Labitt, Bruce Cc: Greater NH Linux User Group Subject: Re: YAQ Setting up vncviewer 2008/4/8 Labitt, Bruce [EMAIL

Re: YAQ Setting up vncviewer

2008-04-08 Thread John Abreau
On Tue, 8 Apr 2008, Labitt, Bruce wrote: YAQ... :) I'd like to vnc from my centos4.5 box (so far) to a ps3 running YDL6. I can ssh from centos to ydl without a problem. However, when I try to vnc from centos to ydl I get Main: unable to connect to host: No route to host (113) This

Re: YAQ Setting up vncviewer

2008-04-08 Thread John Abreau
On Tue, 8 Apr 2008, Tom Buskey wrote: 2008/4/8 Labitt, Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [snip] Main: unable to connect to host: No route to host (113) [snip] Is vncserver running on ydl? (I know, but start at the basics) Which port is vncserver offering (5901?) Sure, that should be checked, too,

Re: New distro question

2008-04-08 Thread Frank DiPrete
Labitt, Bruce wrote: I realize this is / was / will be a religious argument, but I'm having trouble with this distribution of Centos on my computer. Please refer to all comments as in my opinion to avoid jihads. I was wondering if there was a distro more up to date and was suited for

Re: low power linux PC?

2008-04-08 Thread Frank DiPrete
Bill McGonigle wrote: On Apr 7, 2008, at 23:10, Bob King wrote: On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 11:04 PM, Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suspect the hard drives will be pushing things. Figure 15 watts per disk. Startup watts for the laptop drive I used in my new router was 4.5

Re: New distro question

2008-04-08 Thread Frank DiPrete
Ben Scott wrote: On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Frank DiPrete [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MIS would be just as comfy with fedora as with RH. From a support and admin point of view it's pretty much the same. Speaking as a professional MIS weenie, I can say that the main thing that annoys

Re: New distro question

2008-04-08 Thread Bruce Labitt
Frank DiPrete wrote: Ben Scott wrote: On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Frank DiPrete [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MIS would be just as comfy with fedora as with RH. From a support and admin point of view it's pretty much the same. Speaking as a professional MIS weenie, I can

Re: New distro question

2008-04-08 Thread Bill Ricker
To simplify scientist self-administration of the workstation, consider WebMin it's UserMin module. See April Linux Journal review. scientific calculations. What kind of science? Bio/Genetic, Geo/Soc/Stat, HPC MPPC ? If Clustering, / Hi-Performance Computing, that's a whole different kettle

Re: New distro question

2008-04-08 Thread Jarod Wilson
On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 21:40 -0400, Bruce Labitt wrote: Frank DiPrete wrote: Ben Scott wrote: On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Frank DiPrete [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MIS would be just as comfy with fedora as with RH. From a support and admin point of view it's pretty much the

Re: New distro question

2008-04-08 Thread Jarod Wilson
On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 20:50 -0400, Frank DiPrete wrote: Ben Scott wrote: On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Frank DiPrete [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MIS would be just as comfy with fedora as with RH. From a support and admin point of view it's pretty much the same. Speaking as a

Re: New distro question

2008-04-08 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 9:40 PM, Bruce Labitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does Centos keep up with security updates? CentOS tracks RHEL (Red Hat Enterprise Linux) very closely. Red Hat provides updates for seven years after initial release. So RHEL 2.1, released in 2002, and roughly