Re: Traffic shaping/aggregating
On 12/26/06, Michael ODonnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about using the LinkSys RV042/82 series router which has dual wide area network connections and can do load balancing? Outbound only, I presume, and even that's a good trick. Inbound aggregation/load balancing would require cooperation from the ISP and I suspect they'd rather just sell him a single go-faster connection for a way larger number of dollars... There's something out there called Trunking where you can make 2 network connections act as one. I think it may be called bonding in Linux. In the past you took 2 PPP connections and bonded them. Some high end switches have Trunking and Sun has Sun Trunking. Both follow some 802.x standard that I can't recall. Again, this would require cooporation from the ISP. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Traffic shaping/aggregating
On Tue, 2006-12-26 at 21:43 -0500, Ben Scott wrote: On 12/26/06, hewitt_tech [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about using the LinkSys RV042/82 series router which has dual wide area network connections and can do load balancing? How about cutting some text when quoting a message? ;-) (Your 2-line reply quoted 50 lines of original.) Netiquette aside... I wasn't aware of those products. The RV082 looks like a neat little box. Do you have any experience with those boxes doing what Bruce wants to do? That is, have one user (LAN IP address) associated with one WAN feed, and another user associated with the other WAN feed? The user manual doesn't make it clear if that is even supposed to be possible, and LinkSys doesn't always deliver on their claims even when they are clear. :) I had picked out these boxes as possibly being of interest for use here for shared Internet access in the building. Any info on hackability of the RV082/RV042 units? In particular, can they be hacked to run a custom Linux firmware? I found http://tinyurl.com/y7hn9b but it's mainly speculation, and about a year old. I found http://openixp.phj.hu/ but it appears to be stagnant. The source code is available, but the lack of wireless seems to have reduced the overall level of interest. I looked over the software build requirements and decided that just getting the cross-compiler and any debugging emulation to work would be a challenge. How to convince my wife that figuring this stuff out would be a fun project for us in the evenings? http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Download_C2childpagename=US%2FLayoutcid=1115417110138packedargs=sku%3D1115416833289pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper Cheers, -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ -- Lloyd Kvam Venix Corp ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Traffic shaping/aggregating
On 12/26/06, Michael ODonnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about using the LinkSys RV042/82 series router which has dual wide area network connections and can do load balancing? Outbound only, I presume, and even that's a good trick. Inbound aggregation/load balancing would require cooperation from the ISP and I suspect they'd rather just sell him a single go-faster connection for a way larger number of dollars... The outbound load balance would need to load balance on the per connection level anyway. A go faster then cable connection? Unless he's in the verizon fiber roll out area, not sure how he'd get that without moocho bucks. -- -- Thomas ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Traffic shaping/aggregating
On 12/27/06, Thomas Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Outbound only, I presume, and even that's a good trick. Inbound aggregation/load balancing would require cooperation from the ISP and I suspect they'd rather just sell him a single go-faster connection for a way larger number of dollars... The outbound load balance would need to load balance on the per connection level anyway. Which is why true aggregation (be it at the data link level, or the IP level) would be nicer, since that balances at the frame/packet level. But see below about moocho bucks. A go faster then cable connection? Unless he's in the verizon fiber roll out area, not sure how he'd get that without moocho bucks. Exactly. That seems like a good plan to a telco. (Bruce paying moocho bucks.) -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Traffic shaping/aggregating
On 12/27/06, Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about using the LinkSys RV042/82 series router which has dual wide area network connections and can do load balancing? Outbound only, I presume ... ... Trunking ... Right. Trunking, bonding,link aggregation, teaming are all about taking about the same thing: Taking separate connections and making them act as one, at the data link layer (layer two). ... some 802.x standard that I can't recall. 802.3ad ... Again, this would require cooporation from the ISP. And that's the rub. Like Bruce said, this is a cable ISP. They barely support IP. Anything requiring cooperation with the upstream is right out. -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Traffic shaping/aggregating
On 12/26/06, Bruce Dawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My partner and I use VPNs to access our employer sites, and we frequently find that we're bottlenecking on uploads. So we decided to get a 2nd cable modem so we won't collide with each other. Small, but important question. What kind of VPN? OpenVPN? PPTP? Does anyone know of good reference material regarding aggregating, or otherwise combining the two cable modem's throughput into a single network segment (using a router - preferably a Linksys running OpenWRT or somesuch)? I'm really looking for a HOWTO type document - or if someone knows the commands to execute, that would be a good start! Mostly, ISP's need to offer the ability to do this. A hack and slash quickie would be, as was suggested, to simply have you use one, and him the other. I actually just looked at my m0n0wall install to see if it could agregate multiple WAN connection, but it cannot. pfSense, a fork of m0n0wall, *CAN*, on the other hand, do this out of the box. http://www.pfsense.com/ http://www.pfsense.com/index.php?id=36 has a link to one multi-wan tutorial. Here's a quote from the FAQ: Multiple WAN connections are supported under some circumstances. Only one WAN connection can be PPPoE, BigPond, or PPTP. The other must be static IP or DHCP. Outgoing load balancing is supported, but link monitoring is still currently under development. This means there currently is no automatic failover capacity. Load balancing is on per connection basis, not a bandwidth basis. All packets in a given flow will go over only one link. http://www.pfsense.com/index.php?id=36 -- -- Thomas ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Traffic shaping/aggregating
Thomas Charron wrote: A go faster then cable connection? Unless he's in the verizon fiber roll out area, not sure how he'd get that without moocho bucks. Depends on the cable company. Some throttle the bandwidth for residential service, but offer a (less) throttled connection for business-class service for more money. Some also offer two tiers of bandwidth for residential service with a premium for a less throttled connection. -- Dan Jenkins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Rastech Inc., Bedford, NH, USA --- 1-603-206-9951 *** Technical Support Excellence for over a Quarter Century ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Traffic shaping/aggregating
On 12/27/06, Thomas Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/26/06, Bruce Dawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I actually just looked at my m0n0wall install to see if it could aggregate multiple WAN connection, but it cannot. pfSense, a fork of m0n0wall, *CAN*, on the other hand, do this out of the box. I should add that I use m0n0wall due to it's HD-less mode of operation, storing all network info on a floppy disk. ;-) Unfortionatly, pfSense added a GREAT deal of additional functionality, and floppy-mode wasn't one of them. Maybee I should toss a HD in a spare machine and migrate over.. Looking at pfSense again made me jealous for features. ;-) -- -- Thomas ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: OT: Cygwin/X on Windows XP
Use Xming instead. http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Xming http://sourceforge.net/projects/xming On 12/27/06, Jason Stephenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm struggling with getting Cygwin/X working on Windows XP Pro. Whenever I start it, I get the attached log file. I've Googled the errors listed at the bottom of the file and the results all point to this: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html#q-error-font-eof I have tried those instructions multiple times to no avail. I still get the same error log. I have verified also that /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts exists and that it contains fonts in the appropriate directories. Specifically, ./misc contains 413 files! I have tried deleting the Cygnus Solutions registry keys, deleting all of the Cygwin software, and reinstalling. When that did not fix the problem, I tried adding a registry key to mount /usr/X11R6 and still no love. When I had this installed on a computer with Win2K Professional, it worked without a hitch.--I'm starting to think that there is some sort of genetic incompatibility with Cygwin/X and Windows XP. Anyway, I'm writing this esteemed list to ask if anyone else has encountered this problem and if you were able to resolve it. So far, all I've come up with on other mailing list archives point me back to the useless FAQ link above. Cheers, Jason (WW) /tmp mounted int textmode _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root (II) XF86Config is not supported (II) See http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html for more information winAdjustVideoModeShadowGDI - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits per pixel winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Creating DIB with width: 1280 height: 1024 depth: 32 winInitVisualsShadowGDI - Masks 00ff ff00 00ff BPRGB 8 d 24 bpp 32 null screen fn ReparentWindow null screen fn RestackWindow InitQueue - Calling pthread_mutex_init InitQueue - pthread_mutex_init returned InitQueue - Calling pthread_cond_init InitQueue - pthread_cond_init returned winInitMultiWindowWM - Hello winMultiWindowXMsgProc - Hello winInitMultiWindowWM - Calling pthread_mutex_lock () winMultiWindowXMsgProc - Calling pthread_mutex_lock () MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support XFree86-Bigfont extension local-client optimization disabled due to lack of shared memory support in the kernel (--) Setting autorepeat to delay=500, rate=31 (--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: 0409 (0409) (--) Using preset keyboard for English (USA) (409), type 4 (--) 3 mouse buttons found Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from list! Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed' winDeinitMultiWindowWM - Noting shutdown in progress ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: OT: Cygwin/X on Windows XP
Erm, never mind, I fixed it by unmounting everything and reinstalling the fonts while the Cygwin bash window was still open. I found this solution by digging deeper into the Gmane Cygwin-x archives. Go figure. According to some posts that I've seen, that isn't supposed to fix it if you install Cygwin with DOS line endings, as I do, but whatever works, right? (I'm also sending this to my work address so I can fix it there in the morning. Never know, I might just forget this over night. ;) Cheers, Jason ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Traffic shaping/aggregating
On Dec 26, 2006, at 11:30, Bruce Dawson wrote: (using a router - preferably a Linksys running OpenWRT or somesuch)? These guys appear to box up a linux router for said purpose: http://www.peplink.com/productsSpec.php?productName=balance These are also frequently mentioned: http://www.xincom.com/products/502/overview.php -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
